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Ooh the days when sleep could almost silence my T....those were better days....now T is on it's "crap" level from the moment I wake up to the second I fall asleep, every single day :/
 
Ooh the days when sleep could almost silence my T....those were better days....now T is on it's "crap" level from the moment I wake up to the second I fall asleep, every single day :/
Please be strong and have hope. If anything, help us research naturally occurring notch inhibitors. Is it a stupid notion? That some flower or tree extract taken in high doses could not do the same thing as a lab chemical? This is all new science. I believe this thing is achievable.
 
Please be strong and have hope. If anything, help us research naturally occurring notch inhibitors. Is it a stupid notion? That some flower or tree extract taken in high doses could not do the same thing as a lab chemical? This is all new science. I believe this thing is achievable.

I really don't know what you are talking about, sorry. I will hold on some more years, to see if we will get a treatment. If not, I can't promise I will "stick around".
 
I really don't know what you are talking about, sorry. I will hold on some more years, to see if we will get a treatment. If not, I can't promise I will "stick around".
1. Tinnitus is probably caused by hearing loss, which is largely caused by sudden loss of the little hairs in our inner ear.
2. These little hairs can, but dont naturally grow back because of chemicals in our body preventing them.
3. They found out VERY recently that these hairs can be induced to regrow and restore hearing with a class of drug called a notch inhibitor.
4. That's what fx322 is. In phase 2 trials now.
5. Within the last few years, these notch inhibitors have been found in many plants.
6. We are perhaps 4 months away from knowing the effects on tinnitus of fx322, if they report this after phase 2 is over in December.
7. I'm either stupid or smart because I think theres a chance I can replicate hearing regeneration with some yet unknown to me plant.
8. Have a nice day. :cool:
 
1. Tinnitus is probably caused by hearing loss, which is largely caused by sudden loss of the little hairs in our inner ear.
2. These little hairs can, but dont naturally grow back because of chemicals in our body preventing them.
3. They found out VERY recently that these hairs can be induced to regrow and restore hearing with a class of drug called a notch inhibitor.
4. That's what fx322 is. In phase 2 trials now.
5. Within the last few years, these notch inhibitors have been found in many plants.
6. We are perhaps 4 months away from knowing the effects on tinnitus of fx322, if they report this after phase 2 is over in December.
7. I'm either stupid or smart because I think theres a chance I can replicate hearing regeneration with some yet unknown to me plant.
8. Have a nice day. :cool:

I don't have any detectable hearing loss so even if I do have some, I probably won't be eligable to receive the FX-322 if it proves to be succesfull.
 
I don't have any detectable hearing loss so even if I do have some, I probably won't be eligable to receive the FX-322 if it proves to be succesfull.
I think that if fx 322 test subjects report that they had T and it went away, that they will approve it for that. If not, this technology will be replicated in other countries like Mexico and Taiwan etc and you'll be able to get it there where there are less regulations. Better be, I dont think my hearing loss is detectable either.
 
I'm either stupid or smart because I think theres a chance I can replicate hearing regeneration with some yet unknown to me plant
A consumable substance that promotes the regrowth of cilia. Sounds simple enough and seems plausible. But there is no such consumable substance to regrow hair on a bald scalp. So how can this be possible in my cochlea and only my cochlea?
 
A consumable substance that promotes the regrowth of cilia. Sounds simple enough and seems plausible. But there is no such consumable substance to regrow hair on a bald scalp. So how can this be possible in my cochlea and only my cochlea?
Well does head hair have progenitor cells?
 
1. Tinnitus is probably caused by hearing loss, which is largely caused by sudden loss of the little hairs in our inner ear.
2. These little hairs can, but dont naturally grow back because of chemicals in our body preventing them.
3. They found out VERY recently that these hairs can be induced to regrow and restore hearing with a class of drug called a notch inhibitor.
4. That's what fx322 is. In phase 2 trials now.
5. Within the last few years, these notch inhibitors have been found in many plants.
6. We are perhaps 4 months away from knowing the effects on tinnitus of fx322, if they report this after phase 2 is over in December.
7. I'm either stupid or smart because I think theres a chance I can replicate hearing regeneration with some yet unknown to me plant.
8. Have a nice day. :cool:

So it is inner cochlea cells that get damaged first. I thought outer cochlea cells get damaged first.

I really don't know what you are talking about, sorry. I will hold on some more years, to see if we will get a treatment. If not, I can't promise I will "stick around".

Same here. I am giving myself 2021-2022 max.
 
A consumable substance that promotes the regrowth of cilia. Sounds simple enough and seems plausible. But there is no such consumable substance to regrow hair on a bald scalp. So how can this be possible in my cochlea and only my cochlea?
I do know that cochlea hair and head hair are in fact two completely different things.
 
For anybody following my research:

There are 4 types of notch receptors notch1, notch2, notch3, and notch4.

The one that concerns us is notch1.

"Notch1 expression is specific to hair cells and Jagged1 to supporting cells. Their expression persists into adult. Notch2, Notch3, Notch4, and Delta1 are excluded from the inner ear epithelia"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9858718/

Curcumin is a notch1 inhibitor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAGegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1g47qN0waw2eCRCDULYO_m


So far it seems like curcumin is the best candidate for a natural path to pca regeneration. More research must be done though.

https://express.google.com/u/0/prod...n6SLlq-AiIkfGLCZ-woiA1VTRA&utm_campaign=15646
 
cochlear hair cells have nothing to do with mammalian hair
I do know that cochlea hair and head hair are in fact two completely different things.
Yes. To clarify further for anyone who is wondering, cochlear "hair cells" are not hair at all. The cells are only named such because they resemble hair in appearance.
 
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This is very interesting and worth looking into. How will one best get the curcumin? Through tablets or naturally? what dosage? Please report back if you start experimenting with this.
Veggie capsules of the pure stuff. I'd say a reputable natural foods market. I got the one in the link I posted earlier from a store called Earthfare, a super snooty rich hippy grocery store here in USofA. It absorbs poorly and needs some kind of black pepper or something to go with it. I'm going to find out a maximum safe dose and start taking it everyday. It may take up to 3 months to see any results. You could try it with me. We shouldnt get our hopes up too high lest we be let down too hard, but hey, it's worth a try. Really anything at this point is worth a try. I'm also going to go to the doctor every couple of weeks to get my blood work done to see if I'm hurting my kidneys while I do this.

This will at least give us something to do while we wait for that phase 2 fx322 trial to wrap up in December.
 
cochlear hair cells have nothing to do with mammalian hair

My bad. I used regrowth of hair as in Rogaine.

To think hair from a hair cell follicles and cilia are the same would be ignorant.

I did read that our respiratory system has many cilia.

Also that flagella and cilia are similar in nature.

If a digested substance can promote cilia growth in the cochlea it seems logical that the same substance would promote growth in respiratory cilia as well.
 
My bad. I used regrowth of hair as in Rogaine.

To think hair from a hair cell follicles and cilia are the same would be ignorant.

I did read that our respiratory system has many cilia.

Also that flagella and cilia are similar in nature.

If a digested substance can promote cilia growth in the cochlea it seems logical that the same substance would promote growth in respiratory cilia as well.
The different cells react to notch up regulation and down regulation differently. There are 4 different notches.
 
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I still don't know exactly what he means by loudness hyperacusis, or if it's the same thing as recruitment.
 
theres no way I'll ever get into a clinical trial if I can still hear up to 14,000k in both ears and the right ear is that got hit noticably.

Probably in 6 years F-tx will be on the market and btw my tinnitus is almost completely gone but occasionally i get a tonal zap in my head.
 

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