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This can't be real. Even parody foppy British doesn't sound as over the top as his posts. I'm picturing an afternoon tea after a fox hunt where a bunch of "high bred" rich Brits reassure each other what (egoless) gentlemen they are.
Quite correct. I was using my phone to post the message and more used to writing using my keyboard but a mistake nevertheless that shouldn't have occurred. Thank you for drawing my attention to the grammatical mistake. I hope in future, you are able to apply the same amount of scrutiny to your own writing and not use expletives to the extent that you do, as this is a very vulgar and undignified method of expressing oneself.
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We must be all commoners in Australia then
because "Top Bloke" is an Australian compliment regarding a male who is the type of fellow everyone wants to hang out with and have a beer with. Also, a reliable, helpful, good natured friend.I am glad you told me the class system is very much integrated into British Society, I have just renewed my British Passport so I will make sure if I am catching the Qe2 across the miles that I ask this question
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I think it's one whole bear hide made into a helmet to frighten the enemy. Scary isn't it?
Lmao I had no idea who Jordon Peterson was so I looked him up. Is this guy seriously going around and trying to get people to think Hitler was just a nice guy? What a career!
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The only time I hear people swearing, is when I watch Hollywood movies.
It might not be their Fault that they are a "certain way", but that doesn't change the fact that you can learn a lot about a person based on what they say and how they say it.
pray a miracle happens or meme magik or whatever higher powers will come and save me from my immediate doom.
Alright look, about swearing and swear words, this is the truth:
Walking through a field:
"Aw fuck, I stepped in shit!"
At a family gathering of multiple families:
"Look at that woman with the short haircut, where's her husband? She must be a lesbian."
I seriously just heard about the latter at a large family gathering today, and it was directed at one of my aunts, a woman that is one of the nicest, selfless, and most caring people I know.
So what is worse? Saying "fuck" as an interjection or saying really nasty things about someone behind their back?
I believe, and I'm right, that it is not about the words you use, but how you use them.
Walking through a field:
"Aw fuck, I stepped in shit!"
At a family gathering of multiple families:
"Look at that woman with the short haircut, where's her husband? She must be a lesbian."
I seriously just heard about the latter at a large family gathering today, and it was directed at one of my aunts, a woman that is one of the nicest, selfless, and most caring people I know.
So what is worse? Saying "fuck" as an interjection or saying really nasty things about someone behind their back?
I believe, and I'm right, that it is not about the words you use, but how you use them.
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That doesn't surprise me at all, Bill, as you have said many times that you don't like socialising.
Of course, you can, but in no way can you learn whether one is a good person or not, based on one encounter and whether they swear or not.
To be honest, I can't think of anything worse than going to a party, or event, where the atmosphere is stuffy and all the people have a stick up their ass talking about class.
That is because you are a man that has: etiquette, class and decorum. Qualities only some people have or will ever acquire. I rarely watch a movie that has swear words throughout. The rubbish that they make today which they call movies is a disgrace.
Michael
Michael, people can have etiquette, decorum, decency, kindness and many other positive traits and still swear. I really don't understand how a sound can affect people so much.
In my lifetime, I've been around a bit and seen a lot. I've dined, many times, with some of the most eminent professors at Cambridge university in some of the most amazing halls. These are supposedly "prestigious" events that undoubtedly have lords and such in attendance, and whilst at the dinner table, people have impeccable etiquette. I suppose that goes without saying. However, catch any of these people at a bar or on a trip to Iceland or the Alps and it's a different story! They all drop c-bombs and swear like anybody else I've heard. Does this make them bad people?
I've also been to more black-tie charity balls than I can count, and the same thing applies. These events have the supposed "cream of society" in attendance, namely surgeons, barristers, business magnates, etc, and most of them swear even whilst at the ball. I distinctly remember talking to a heart surgeon once at one of them, whilst circling the room, and he was a real barrel of laughs. You could tell he loved his job, but guess what? Holy shit, he swore a lot! I could give dozens of examples like this.
Here's a random photo of me at a ball.
I suppose this is a long-winded way of me saying that this strict code of etiquette thing is a man-made concept from a by-gone era. Most people don't care about any of that stuff anymore, except maybe the Royals and a few other titled people (and even then, are we saying that Prince William and Prince Harry and other royals don't swear?).
Like I said before, class and language use doesn't really mean a lot. What matters more than anything else is how a person behaves and holds themselves. People who are obsessed with class are often very snobby and arrogant, in my experience.
Talking about movies, this entire discussion about class and swearing reminds me of this truly great scene from Scent of a Woman. It provides a powerful message on this very issue.
If you haven't seen the film before, Michael, I'd recommend it. It's a great film.
I have no wish to get into a long drawn-out debate about this as I was replying to @Bill Bauer post. Therefore, I will be brief. I am talking about "character" which encompasses the three things that I have mentioned: etiquette, class and decorum. It is found in all walks of life and society and those that we mix with. Show me your company and I'll tell you who you are. This is one of the reasons Bill only hears swear words in movies not the people he associates with and the same applies to me.
I will end it there.
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This is so arrogant and presumptuous and says more about you than anyone else, in my opinion. It's frightening how much you seem to think of yourself. You judge people in this way, and yet, this comes from a man who has fraudulently lived off the rest of society's tax money for most of his adult life.
I remember you once telling a member here, who had just lost his father, that you would no longer be corresponding with him because he said the word "shit." I'll never forget that moment as it really took me back. The guy had just lost his dad!! And you talk about fucking class and etiquette? It's in those moments, and some private ones that I know about you, that really angered me (one incident in particular got you banned for a week). I used to really respect you and your contributions here until I learned a few things about you and saw the way you interacted with some who were suffering. I just couldn't forgive your behaviour.
That's why I find your obsession with class and language absurd; because your character is hollow.
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