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The perfect word of God is imperfect and considering barbaric by virtually any sane persons moral compass.

The infinitely powerful creator of the Universe "God" has few options.

God choices to play along with the bronze age war culture so the Israelites can understand God better.

Christian Apologetic fail at a monumental level.
 
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The perfect word of God is imperfect and considering barbaric by most standards. The infinitely powerful creator of the Universe "God" has few options.

God choices to play along with the bronze age war culture so the Israelites can understand God better.

Christian Apologetic fail at a monumental level.
My personal opinion, and maybe because I didn't grow up in a Christian/Muslim/Jewish family, but I have no idea how people can believe this crap.
 
Well considering we have never really cured hearing loss and tested this, there's no way to tell. But considering we can deduct objectives changes in the DCN and Audiatory Cortex, it's suggested that this is the most likely scenario.

well at worst case scenario we have Susan Shore's device

Are the scientist saying neuro-plasticity has limitations?
 
well at worst case scenario we have Susan Shore's device

Are the scientist saying neuro-plasticity has limitations?
Yeah it does but that doesn't mean we can't reverse the tinnitus damage. After all it's neuroplasticity that got us in this mess.

But so far the SS device hasn't shown that it can permanently reduce tinnitus.
 
Yeah it does but that doesn't mean we can't reverse the tinnitus damage. After all it's neuroplasticity that got us in this mess.

But so far the SS device hasn't shown that it can permanently reduce tinnitus.

Why would the brain not rewire it self to adapt to more input?
 
Why would the brain not rewire it self to adapt to more input?
Good question. We don't know, but the SS device essentially reduces the neuroactivity in the neurons, not rewire them. So it's not doing anything that would encourage the brain to rewire, it's just reducing the tinnitus-activity in the miswired neurons.
 
Good question. We don't know, but the SS device essentially reduces the neuroactivity in the neurons, not rewire them. So it's not doing anything that would encourage the brain to rewire, it's just reducing the tinnitus-activity in the miswired neurons.

Restoring the hearing loss should decrease central gain, wouldn't that reduce tinnitus?


Is there any researcher or paper that specifically says it won't or did you just read one of Gl0w0ut's post
 
Restoring the hearing loss should decrease central gain, wouldn't that reduce tinnitus?


Is there any researcher or paper that specifically says it won't or did you just read one of Gl0w0ut's post
I'm basing it off what that one researcher on r/tinnitus said.

Anyways with centeral gain, yes it probably would. Restoring hearing to perfect levels though, probably wouldn't completely eliminate tinnitus.
 
I'm basing it off what that one researcher on r/tinnitus said.

Anyways with centeral gain, yes it probably would. Restoring hearing to perfect levels though, probably wouldn't completely eliminate tinnitus.
What researcher on reddit?
 
One of the mods of r/tinnitus. He's the only one that doesn't suck and he got in because he proved he's a researcher. He just studies how tinnitus works, so he's not on FTX or anything cool.

Why is Frequency-tx completely silent on tinnitus?
this question is painful to ask

I heard a rumor that in an email or tweet that Frequency said that it will provide some help.
but I haven't found the source.

Also hair cells are only part of hearing loss, the issue of damaged audiotry nerve fibers is still present.
 
Why is Frequency-tx completely silent on tinnitus?
this question is painful to ask

I heard a rumor that in an email or tweet that Frequency said that it will provide some help.
but I haven't found the source.

Also hair cells are only part of hearing loss, the issue of damaged audiotry nerve fibers is still present.
Their silent because their main focus isn't tinnitus. It doesn't mean that their research won't help it. Rl-81 is an epilepsy medicine that should eliminates tinnitus.
 
Their silent because their main focus isn't tinnitus. It doesn't mean that their research won't help it. Rl-81 is an epilepsy medicine that should eliminates tinnitus.
Wouldn't it benefit them more if they stated their drug worked on hearing loss and tinnitus?
 
Wouldn't it benefit them more if they stated their drug worked on hearing loss and tinnitus?
Yeah I think it would. The medical community outside of tinnitus researchers are in the tinnitus=hearing loss paradigm, so maybe they think fixing hearing loss will nescessarly fix tinnitus, and it's not worth mentioning.

Just a guess. Not a great one but what do I know?
 
Why is Frequency-tx completely silent on tinnitus?
this question is painful to ask

I heard a rumor that in an email or tweet that Frequency said that it will provide some help.
but I haven't found the source.

Also hair cells are only part of hearing loss, the issue of damaged audiotry nerve fibers is still present.
The simple answer is they don't know yet. You can't exactly measure tinnitus in the animals they have tested. The few comments they made on the subject show they are hopeful about a reduction in noise given that hearing is restored. They are ahead of schedule already so they should start trials soon. If the nerves grow at the same rate as seen in other parts of the body, they should see improvements in like a month. Hopefully they publish soon after and we'll have answer. 6 months maybe?
 
Okay I do remember reading a paper and watching a Youtube video that said tinnitus spreads from the audiotory to non audiotory parts of the brain.

This is what I'm assuming why the reddit tinnitus user said reversing hearing loss would not 100% reduce tinnitus.
 
However no one knows the full effect of the neuro plasticity until hearing loss actually is reversed
 
Okay I do remember reading a paper and watching a Youtube video that said tinnitus spreads from the audiotory to non audiotory parts of the brain.

This is what I'm assuming why the reddit tinnitus user said reversing hearing loss would not 100% reduce tinnitus.
Was that official? I'm asking because there seems to be a connection with visual snow. Mine gets worse as my T gets worse. I'm going to go nuts if this is true.
 
Was that official? I'm asking because there seems to be a connection with visual snow. Mine gets worse as my T gets worse. I'm going to go nuts if this is true.
i've never heard anything about that? but it's possible the tinnitus choices different regions of the brain to occupy.
 
Still my tinnitus is mild

probably 30 decibels, it's the hearing distortion that makes me more upset.

*but it spikes when I yawn, clench my jaw or turn my head.
that is what really upsets me
 

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