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Some people have a problem with it being the "only thing we have" and want as much funding as possible to go for actual treatments. No need to vilify those people.
No matter how bad you've got it, someone probably has it worse. Ozzy, as no surprise, has tinnitus (and probably a serious case of hearing loss on top of it) but now he's got constant chronic pain and parkinsons to deal with. As bad as I have it, I'm better off. Despite his money the odds are against him conquering either of these new problems. As they say, how weak the mortal frame.
While this is true and meant to deliver perspective, by this rationale no one's suffering is as valid because there is a dude being tortured in North Korea at the moment.
Oh okay so apparently all suffering is invalid because someone has it worse.
That's not even a Strawman because even with a mild logical extension of this logic, the argument completely falls apart. That's how bad the logic involved here is.
For real though CBTers have been trying to convert MPP for years, and at this point it's seriously just annoying. It's definitely gotten worse after JohnAdams left because the sitewide raid introduced normies from the support and success stories forums, and JohnAdams was keeping these people out. Is our pro-research beliefs really so terrible it requires years of constant missionary waves? We can't be allowed to even have this corner of the internet apparently.
This thread seems to be a dumping ground where people can get triggered and attack other posters. Seriously, man. Lighten up. And didn't you reveal a while ago that your tinnitus went away??? Is that true? If so, why are you still hanging 'round? You're damn right it's a strawman. I'm talking about trying to create a mental framework other than the most egocentric as a coping mechanism. Is it pathetic to have to do this? YES. But guess what? You better the hell cling to whatever mental tricks you can. Think of how Valerie Harper dealt with her cancer diagnosis and tried to make the most of the time she had left, Dancing with the Stars etc... Think of Alex Trebek going down a similar road. Think of Neil Peart deciding to quietly fade away with his brain cancer rather than be the center of attention. All of these stories are proof positive that humans can exhibit more grit than you realize. Try to draw strength from it rather than just getting triggered and pining for cheap sympathy. We're all more or less in the same boat so I don't see what good it does to lash out at other sufferers.
Except it isn't. Watch this:
You shouldn't complain about California rent because it's more expensive to live in Singapore
You shouldn't complain about Liver cancer because Prostate cancer is worse
You shouldn't complain about living in Turkmenistan because North korea is worse
You shouldn't complain about gas prices now because they will be worse in the future
You shouldn't complain about having lost a foot because other people lost a leg
All these are mild extensions of the logic you're using. It's hard to make a critique of this argument that doesn't sound like a strawman because it's just so absurdly bad.
Show me where complaining accomplishes something positive. Didn't we just get over a bunch of critiques of JohnAdams' negative attitude where he spent most of his time being a keyboard warrior whining and complaining. What does it accomplish? Who do you think your audience is? I'm so tired of cheap clicktivism.
You haven't proven my argument is bad because there are countless stories of people who had profound medical problems who achieved great things, from Helen Keller to Stephen Hawking to Beethoven. I'm not invalidating anyone's suffering but if they had your attitude they'd have offed themselves right away while leaving an angry screed blaming the world for not providing a miracle cure.
We have proposed a solution. Multiple times actually: Try to further research as much as possible. Contrast has taken down tinnitus scammers, JohnAdams has volunteered his time and money to experiment on ways to reduce it, and many others who were here before like ATEOS also did the same. Furthermore complaining about an issue is fine and saying that people who can't fix the problem shouldn't complain about it is really stupid and equally as unhelpful as you say their complaining is. You're really bad at forming arguments.
If you're tired of our "clicktivism" then leave. You only came here after the sitewide raid and lingered with the mild CBT evangelists. I like Jack Straw overall because at least he's funny but you're just crapping the place up with your agenda-posting and your 2007 era memes.
I am arching all of Sir Adam's research if anyone is interested.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...669377064834695168/Sir_JohnAdams_research.zip
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...669377064834695168/Sir_JohnAdams_research.zip
Nice this will be a treasure trove of good info.
Also congrats on being the 14,000th post
Here I framed it for you:Gunna frame this and hang it in my room
http://www.sci-news.com/paleontology/wulong-bohaiensis-08027.html
The dinosaurs are coming back to MPP
AfroSnowman
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- Jul 23, 2019
- 1,075
- Tinnitus Since
- 04/2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Nonnatural energy source
That's exactly it yeah. I was wondering what "Chinese" he wanted. Usually it's mandarin and I can't really speak mandarin.
Elmer B Fuddled
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- Feb 11, 2019
- 1,329
- Tinnitus Since
- 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- plugged nasal eustachian tube
Quite interesting how the foot has been put down for outsiders on MPP.
And the so called discussions on coping with tinnitus which seems to only be allowed by those who have spent money for a relief to no avail.
Then the controversy of CBT which may benefit some and may not do a damn bit of good to anyone else. That doesn't give anyone a reason to slam its probability of working for someone.
I think I will go fishing. There's too much Wankerism in MPP. It's so made up of the top tinnitus sufferers that it's sad.
And the so called discussions on coping with tinnitus which seems to only be allowed by those who have spent money for a relief to no avail.
Then the controversy of CBT which may benefit some and may not do a damn bit of good to anyone else. That doesn't give anyone a reason to slam its probability of working for someone.
I think I will go fishing. There's too much Wankerism in MPP. It's so made up of the top tinnitus sufferers that it's sad.
If a Dr offered CBT as a treatment for breast cancer then I think they would be struck off for being the biggest idiot in medicine.
CBT is merely a way of attempting to control the fallout that having a chronic condition can bring about. It's never been about curing the actual condition. For that, we need more awareness, more political progress, more research funds and better guidelines.
The fight is on, so we need the tinnitus community to come together to be louder and more vocal than ever. And this in places away from here where the most impact can be made.
- Jan 1, 2019
- 708
- Tinnitus Since
- Steadily worsening since 2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Unknown
When I get my laptop back, I plan on finishing my letter to Janet Woodcock of the FDA explaining that we simply cannot wait for these treatments to become available and the FDA has means to expedite some of its regulatory process (or even skip phase 3 in some cases). For some of us, it is literally the difference between life and death.
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