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[Manny]

@threefirefour

 

[JulianBrumbelow]

 

[Contrast]

 

[JulianBrumbelow]

 

[Contrast]

it's ashame the real threefieefour left and his stupid more intellectual douppleganger is the replacement.

 

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[monkey124]

Hi there @threefirefour. I see that your tinnitus was cured as you had TMJ. Did you have a tooth guard? I've just had one made up for me!

 

[Zugzug]

@Contrast : your kind of guy.

 

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@Contrast : your kind of guy.

What if drinking the celery juice does have positive medical benefits? Despite his beliefs being nonsense.

 

[Zugzug]

What if drinking the celery juice does have positive medical benefits? Despite his beliefs being nonsense.

I see this as kind of like the idea that gentle sound therapy could have positive benefits, despite the fact that TRT as a whole is nonsense.

 

[JulianBrumbelow]

 

[Contrast]

I see this as kind of like the idea that gentle sound therapy could have positive benefits, despite the fact that TRT as a whole is nonsense.

Did you even bother investigating CJ, or are you a cynic. It makes sense that people who stock up on these super foods are healthier.

 

[Contrast]

I see this as kind of like the idea that gentle sound therapy could have positive benefits, despite the fact that TRT as a whole is nonsense.

TRT doesn't work on pain hyperacusis, it may desensitize loudness hyperacusis.

Any generic sound therapy is better then TRT though.

 

[Zugzug]

Did you even bother investigating CJ, or are you a cynic. It makes sense that people who stock up on these super foods are healthier.

The guy makes claims that are unbelievably untrue. Like it's impossible for an autoimmune disease to be your immune system attacking your own cells. By this logic, why do people kill themselves? After all, the body would never want to "harm itself."

 

[Contrast]

The guy makes claims that are unbelievably untrue. Like it's impossible for an autoimmune disease to be your immune system attacking your own cells. By this logic, why do people kill themselves? After all, the body would never want to "harm itself."

I don't agree with that claim, unless he can show empirical evidence of it. The burden is on him to defend the controversial idea. However that doesn't dispute the more sane claim that celery juice can help significantly with arthritis and inflammatory diseases. He could be doing something right while still believing pure BS.

That's totally different from supplement companies (Tinnitus 911, Sound Quility, Sonus Complete) that claim thousands of people were cured, using massive spam advertisements online, and making false NSF certification and lying about its owner being a medical doctor. This celery guy is a quack indeed, but he became popular by interacting with the general public unlike above named scam supplements that flooded the internet with shit (via paid affiliates) to pave their way to success.

 

[Contrast]

I admit, I am much more open minded then I use to be. The secret to knowing if a controversial claim that contradicts the mainstream might be true, is if it has a long back history of controversy and the alternative ideas to the mainstream have been lurking in the backwaters of Academia.

Tinnitus being caused by mylein degeneration has ZERO history in the Academic world, it was just pulled out of thin air. Science is already at the point that it knows most cases of tinnitus are in the auditory brain and they slowly spreads to other regions. Empirical evidence already exist that tinnitus is the phantom limb of lost hearing. Yet unfortunately science doesn't know much about how it phantom syndromes become chronic and why some go away. Phantom limb syndrome and tinnitus are still mysteries, but the little that is known strongly contradicts hair cell based models.

 

[Zugzug]

That's totally different from supplement companies (Tinnitus 911, Sound Quility, Sonus Complete) that claim thousands of people were cured, using massive spam advertisements online, and making false NSF certification and lying about its owner being a medical doctor. This celery guy is a quack indeed, but he became popular by interacting with the general public unlike above named scam supplements that flooded the internet with shit (via paid affiliates) to pave their way to success.

You would be amazed as to how many people think autoimmune diseases can be cured with diet. Take it from someone who's tried super clean diets, it doesn't work. At least this guy is properly advertised as a nut job.

 

[Contrast]

You would be amazed as to how many people think autoimmune diseases can be cured with diet. Take it from someone who's tried super clean diets, it doesn't work. At least this guy is properly advertised as a nut job.

There are many many auto immune diseases.

 

[MrCrybaby]

@Zugzug @Contrast guys like the medical medium are of interest to me, they're real slimy. What you need to understand is that he employs some techniques that work but is overall extremely dishonest. He always diagnoses common, low grad, diet modifiable autoimmune disease. Even though a "spirit" supposedly "reads" his clients the advice is always the same. He then recommends a diet that is really just a plain old anti inflammatory or allergen elimination diet. Also peddles unregulated supplements and implies anti cancer claims (which are illegal). He can make a LOT MORE money if a magic ghost is the source of his health advice than if it's just cookie cutter diets, so that's the claim he makes. This sort of practice is very common in "holistic nutrition" where you energy is supposedly read and then a generic diet is prescribed and some sketchy diagnosis like leaky gut is made.

So basically his advice is actually "fine" for most people, but he lies a lot and preys heavily on the desperate and very sick (esp cancer patients).

 

[Zugzug]

To me, any autoimmune disease fixed by diet isn't really an autoimmune disease. To be clear, I'm not trivializing them, as they can be really serious diseases (like Celiac's). But a true autoimmune disease is when your immune system attacks healthy cells and truly no lifestyle changes can alter this.

 

[MrCrybaby]

To me, any autoimmune disease fixed by diet isn't really an autoimmune disease. To be clear, I'm not trivializing them, as they can be really serious diseases (like Celiac's). But a true autoimmune disease is when your immune system attacks healthy cells and truly no lifestyle changes can alter this.

Celiac is not fixed with diet, it's managed with diet. The later in life they are diagnosed and start managing the more likely they are to develop other autoimmune diseases (especially thyroid problems and type 1 diabetes). They also have a higher risk for certain cancers, especially when not managing their disease through diet. I think it is unfair to consider diseases like celiac not true autoimmune diseases just because there is a known management strategy.

I get where you're coming from though, I suspect that ignorant parties repeatedly recommend clean eating and the like to you when it's simply not going to make a difference. Severe forms of diseases need better visibility so the public can understand that people who do not respond to treatment/management are not lazy, negative, freeloaders.

edit: I do agree that very simple food reactions that "medical medium" types treat, like bloating or having somewhat low energy, really don't need to be called "autoimmune diseases" it's overkill.

 

[Zugzug]

Sometimes, we read about stories of people who "cured their autoimmune disease with diet." What really happened is they either had a food intolerance and incorrectly called it an autoimmune disease or they had an autoimmune disease and lifestyle changes improved their overall health to the point where they had more energy, less pain, and a less reactive immune system. But once your immune system thinks healthy cells are bad, it can't undo that. Thinking otherwise is pseudoscience and conspiratorial.

 

[MrCrybaby]

Sometimes, we read about stories of people who "cured their autoimmune disease with diet." What really happened is they either had a food intolerance and incorrectly called it an autoimmune disease or they had an autoimmune disease and lifestyle changes improved their overall health to the point where they had more energy, less pain, and a less reactive immune system. But once your immune system thinks healthy cells are bad, it can't undo that. Thinking otherwise is pseudoscience and conspiratorial.

We're completely on the same page then! I just wanted to clarify that lots of autoimmune diseases are more complex than just their primary symptom (celiac is more than just a gluten reaction, diabetes is more than just an inability to produce insulin, etc) and that the immune system at large is compromised even when managed properly.

 

[Zugzug]

Celiac is not fixed with diet, it's managed with diet. The later in life they are diagnosed and start managing the more likely they are to develop other autoimmune diseases (especially thyroid problems and type 1 diabetes). They also have a higher risk for certain cancers, especially when not managing their disease through diet. I think it is unfair to consider diseases like celiac not true autoimmune diseases just because there is a known management strategy.

You're right. To be honest, I know very little about Celiac...I certainly wasn't picking on it or saying it wasn't serious. I meant in the spirit of "food intolerance only," but you're right that Celiac is a more complicated disease than a simpleton like me thinks.

I know someone with Celiac and diabetes...never asked him about it, but what you said now makes sense to me.

 

[Contrast]

https://www.contrahealthscam.com/zenith-hearing-x3-review-ryan-shelton-scam/#comment-5421

 

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Get ready I'm writing a new report.

 

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https://archive.is/ntJib (archive)

 

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They pay kids in Indonesia that use spam bots to flood the internet with utter shit. There are tools that affiliate marketers use that bypass Google captcha, auto create accounts and rek havok.


https://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Hearing_X3_Review_14

http://www.gc-forever.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Hearing_X3_Review11

 

[Contrast]

27 year old male has severe hearing loss. He took hearingx3 for three months, he assumes it didn't properly work and ask if restarting it on a six month run will work. Look at his desperation with over use of "????" (question marks) and starvation diets to lose 70lbs. It's tragic he is failing for this snake oil.

"plz anyone guide me"

He is right next to fake reviewers. What a surprise.

 

[JulianBrumbelow]