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New Discovery on How the Inner Ear Works
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Exactly. I still decided it'd be something good to post in the research section of TT. Any new information about how we hear is great. Ending the article with, "it goes against what was previously thought regarding how the inner ear works" left me saying in my head, "don't leave me hanging!!". It's annoying how most articles are like that. Thanks for linking the actual document though. I'll look through the page to see if there is anyway to access it.
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MemberThis'll be interesting to read further! (Going into an intense work weekend and will be able to really read more next week!). What always heartens me is that there is so much that is UNknown and more to discover. They even just discovered a lymphatic (if I remember correctly) vessel system in the brain this past spring that they never suspected existed. Thanks @Ears Hurt for tagging me!
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No problem, spread the word. Scientific research is meant to be free to everyone. Like the author of the video said the actual researchers don't even get a penny for publishing their research. It's the journals that make all the money and many less well off educational institutions cannot afford journal membership. This hinders research and increases the overall suffering of millions worldwide with illnesses.
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Here: I just found an article about the new discovery about the brain/immune system direct connection. New stuff is being discovered all the time. http://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-discover-never-before-seen-vessels-in-the-brain
Is it me they are always discovering new stuff but that is all? Nothing come out of these studies?
@Beste Stuff DOES come out of these studies and discoveries but it is never overnight. Hang in there - time is on your side, and I mean it! In many ways. <3
I know that's frustrating, but there really is cause for hope. And meanwhile, please just keep finding and doing all you CAN do to make things better in any way, small or large.
I know that's frustrating, but there really is cause for hope. And meanwhile, please just keep finding and doing all you CAN do to make things better in any way, small or large.
Yeah, that's how it seems doesn't it. New discoveries all the time, but then it takes like four years to convert it from research to reality, and then after all that somehow it always turns out it wasn't such a great solution as they thought after all...
I believe Path Maker is right though; sooner or later one of these things will work out. We just gotta hang in there until then. But also try to enjoy life as much as possible too of course, every day only comes once after all.
Scientist get a grant to study the inner ear but just end up drawling Fibonacci sequences all day. Professor Grif said" it's like weird how its like a Fibonacci sequence inside like another Fibonacci sequence. Right there in the middle. I'm sure that will lead to something some day, but not in my life time cuz there some crazy stuff up in there. Who me, Fix tinnitus , why don't you just asked me to cure sadness."
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Sadness will ultimately be cured once this world understands how our hearing and emotions truly work in correspondence.
When you are sad because you have to deal with tinnitus, hyperacusis, hard of hearing etc....24/7
There must be something in your brain that is not healthy and needs to be "cured".
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And to think how small that damage is in comparison to your entire being yet it can steal our attention and take our life off course checking tinnitustalk compulsively knowing there's no cure in sight...
Probably because it is inside your head.
I am more positive. I do think there will be something within 10 years. At least promising clinical trials.
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The really bad noises are in my right ear. Say you cut off your hand then go show it to the doctor and you say it hurts and instead of fixing your hand he tells you the pain is actually in your brain not your hand, and your like ya it's my brain perceiving the pain but it's really my hand causing it.
I am more positive. I do think there will be something within 10 years. At least promising clinical trials.[/QUOTE said:
"Summary:
Parts of the inner ear that process sounds such as speech and music seem to work differently than other parts of the inner ear, researchers have discovered."
"Researchers have found that the parts of the inner ear that process sounds such as speech and music seem to work differently than other parts of the inner ear. Researchers from Linköping University are part of the team behind the discovery.
"This helps us understand the mechanisms that enable us to perceive speech and music. We hope that more knowledge about the capabilities of the ear will lead to better treatments for the hearing impaired," says Anders Fridberger, professor of neuroscience at Linköping University.
To perceive speech and music, you must be able to hear low-frequency sound. And to do this, the brain needs information from the receptors, which are located close to the top of the cochlea, the spiral cavity in the inner ear. This part of the inner ear is difficult to study, as it is embedded in thick bone that is hard to make holes in, without causing damage. Now the international research team has been able to measure, in an intact inner ear, how the hearing organ reacts to sound. The results have been published in PNAS, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
To measure in the hearing organ, the researchers used optical coherence tomography, a visualization technology for biological matter that is often used to examine the eye.
"We have been able to measure the inner ear response to sound without having to open the surrounding bone structures and we found that the hearing organ responds in a completely different way to sounds in the voice-frequency range. It goes against what was previously thought of how the inner ear works."
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160711092510.htm
Parts of the inner ear that process sounds such as speech and music seem to work differently than other parts of the inner ear, researchers have discovered."
"Researchers have found that the parts of the inner ear that process sounds such as speech and music seem to work differently than other parts of the inner ear. Researchers from Linköping University are part of the team behind the discovery.
"This helps us understand the mechanisms that enable us to perceive speech and music. We hope that more knowledge about the capabilities of the ear will lead to better treatments for the hearing impaired," says Anders Fridberger, professor of neuroscience at Linköping University.
To perceive speech and music, you must be able to hear low-frequency sound. And to do this, the brain needs information from the receptors, which are located close to the top of the cochlea, the spiral cavity in the inner ear. This part of the inner ear is difficult to study, as it is embedded in thick bone that is hard to make holes in, without causing damage. Now the international research team has been able to measure, in an intact inner ear, how the hearing organ reacts to sound. The results have been published in PNAS, the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
To measure in the hearing organ, the researchers used optical coherence tomography, a visualization technology for biological matter that is often used to examine the eye.
"We have been able to measure the inner ear response to sound without having to open the surrounding bone structures and we found that the hearing organ responds in a completely different way to sounds in the voice-frequency range. It goes against what was previously thought of how the inner ear works."
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/07/160711092510.htm
ManagerWhat I would like to know is why micro OCT is not used in clinics to confirm sensorineural damage in the inner ear? Why are so called "doctors" and "scientists" still using these subjective audiograms to diagnose people with inner ear damage?
It has been clearly demonstrated by Konstantina Stankovic and her team of researchers at the Massachusetts Eye and Ear laboratory that both TPEF and µOCT technology can be used to non-invasive image the intracochlear structures at cellular and sub-cellular level. So why is this technology not being used in clinics already?
If we are ever to find cures for inner ear disorders we need to know what's wrong with the inner ear to begin with! And for that we need new tools, such as TPEF and µOCT. The best MRI and CT machines can't penetrate the cochlea and give us the level of details we need to diagnose cellular damage. But alternative technology is readily available! So why is it not being used in clinics? They don't need to do long medical trials for those, do they?
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