New University of Michigan Tinnitus Discovery — Signal Timing

There's a very good chance it's already been submitted and is under FDA review as we speak. It just makes too much sense when considering the timeline of events.

Which would give us an announcement anytime over the second half of 2024. Wouldn't that be nice?

 

You’ve got that right! I got my late b-day wish last year with the Phase II trial results being published, and all I wish for this Christmas is some major news from Auricle. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed and my chin up.

 

I have no idea why anyone’s concerned about who funds the device as it currently lies on a shelf gathering dust.

I wouldn’t care if it was funded by The Wolf of Wall Street as long as it was in the market and helping people.

 

They were initially going to use 400 patients for the study. It was phased over a few years, so they wouldn't need 400 devices. However, I bet at least a couple of dozen are lying around.

 

Once it hits the market, do you want a team of scientists and engineers who designed the device to remain in control and continuously revise and improve it? Or would you like a 'distributor' that bought the rights to it that has no interest in how well it works, has no idea how it works, and wants to sell it for the maximum price?

 

If I may express my opinion?

There's a simple reason why Dr. Shore's device is not on the market.

It is a damp squib.

 

I take it you won’t be interested in the device if it were to hit the market? One less in the queue. That’s fine for others, I’m sure.

 

Yes, that logic certainly holds up when looking at Lenire. Oh, wait...

 

Our support or lack thereof doesn't matter. We can't control their process and can only wait. And even after it's approved by the FDA and announced, Jon Pearson, CEO of Auricle, said commercialization of a product could be at a much later date. So he's setting expectations.

Yes, it just means you will need to wait longer, hopefully not several years in most places.

I'm sure people will quickly jump in the queue when they hear how well it works for others.

 

I had to Google “damp squib.” It's always good to learn some British slang

 

I think the reason some members think Auricle is going to go tits up is the very loose parallels they are drawing with Lenire. Look at things on individual merit.

 

Y'all, the device is happening. I would not have gotten my Susan Shore tattoo if it didn't. As extremely difficult as it may be, patience is the only option.

 

Pictures. We need to see pictures...

 

This made my day. Did you actually get a tattoo?

I am just worried about the tone matching. One day, I have high hissing; the next, I have crackling metal sounds.

 

They are probably in a similar frequency spectrum with different sounds, just like mine, which changes between a high-pitched ring and a high-frequency hiss. It doesn't have to match a specific single-tone frequency.

 

From my understanding, it works similarly to residual inhibition. For residual inhibition to work, you don't have to match your tinnitus sound exactly. You can go to a bar and listen to music, and your tinnitus can disappear for a while.

 

Or get an instant tinnitus spike, as many here experience.

 

This thread worries me a great deal. There must be a balance on this unsubstantiated 'hype.'

Agreed. Dr. Shore's device won't be the last 'device' or 'contraption' to claim to reduce tinnitus. I believe it may even be detrimental.

I advise everyone on Tinnitus Talk not to be the first or second to use this. Let everyone else be your guinea pig.

 

Guinea pig number one is reporting for duty, sir!

 

If people took that attitude, no clinical trial would ever be conducted.

 

However, over 100 guinea pigs have already been used, and Dr. Shore has confirmed that not one worsened due to the treatment itself. The single worsening was caused by attending a rock concert while enrolled in the clinical trial.

What is unsubstantiated hype? Two clinical trials have been published in respected medical journals from an institute with a track record of medical device breakthroughs, LASIK being just one example.

There’s every reason to be hopeful for this device. What evidence is there to the contrary at this point? Please share if you believe this whole thing to be a damp squib.

I’m all for reasoned debate, but please back it up with some evidence.

 

I'm not talking about a loud bar; I'm talking 70-80 dB, which is fine.

 

Of course there does need to be a balance.

But there also has to be a balance to unsubstantiated claims like yours where it may be ‘detrimental.’ An established scientist with data to back up her claims? Or a pessimistic internet poster that takes every opportunity to put a dampener on this device?

With the information I have, I know who seems more trustworthy. I’m more than open to considering any data you have to back up your claims, as we all should be in the name of balance.

 

People are hyped because it's the only promising treatment that will be available in the (hopefully) near future.

 

Everyone else? LOL, you're on Jupiter for sure. Who else will there be but the highly motivated bunch that is us to test this thing? Get in line, try it out, and speak the truth if it works or not. I'm not sure what you're even cautioning for. I still have hyperacusis in one ear, which is potentially inner ear nerve damage that this device will not resolve. I will still give it a whirl as long as the sound stimulus is below my tolerance level.

 

Unfortunately, 70-80 dB is not fine for a lot of people here.

 

The bottom line here is that without the device being launched, we only have second-hand data.

Frustrations are rising here because the device is taking so long - it's simple.

There are people reading this who may have substantially good results from the device when it's available—the pity is the never-ending wait and the decreasing faith in Auricle's ability to launch the device, not in the device itself.

 

I agree with this, but not cynically. I will be watching Tinnitus Talk to see people's experience with the actual Auricle device; just as instructive as there aren't 100's of people flooding online forums saying Lenire helped them, I will gauge the responses here on whether the expense of this device is worth it for me.

 

I have to agree with @Dkellz.

People are suffering terribly, and here we are having this device that has been researched for over 20 years and is supposedly proven to work with the science to back it up, but then when it's announced that it works, it's just put on a shelf to collect dust with no news.

It is super slow for people in the US, and people outside the US are not even in the pipeline.

I mean, this is more than cruel and shows a serious lack of empathy for the suffering that is going on. If they believe in the device and they have the science, why on earth is it with people who appear to have no capacity to get this to the patients who need it worldwide?

Indeed, this is either mismanagement, incompetence, or they know it doesn't do anything. If you had a viable tinnitus treatment that worked, wouldn't you be pushing this through shouting from the rooftops to get it out and available worldwide to help people suffering and get mega-rich in the process? They haven't even got a website.

I can't get how any of this makes any sense.