New University of Michigan Tinnitus Discovery — Signal Timing
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Isabella 123
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I read somewhere that their next clinical trial was delayed by COVID-19 but has now begun with report out in late fall.
Someone I know, who stays in touch with Dr. Shore, told me today that she is trying to commercialize her device before 2023.
Isabella 123
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Isabella 123
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@DebInAustralia, I wonder if anyone has even a clue what they mean by commercialization? Clinics where we go for treatment? Devices for home use?
I'm afraid they will be successful but so expensive I won't be able to afford treatment/purchase so I will be no better off.
I'm afraid they will be successful but so expensive I won't be able to afford treatment/purchase so I will be no better off.
I think they'll have to factor in people's budgets. I wouldn't worry about that.
Sorry if this question is a bit "on the nose" but I don't know anything about this device.
How is Dr. Shore's device different from Lenire'? Does it work, like, at all?
How is Dr. Shore's device different from Lenire'? Does it work, like, at all?
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Commercialization means that we will be able to purchase it. It means developing the production, supply chain, distribution, fitting and sale of the devices. I think this is opposed to its current status as an experimental device that you have to be part of the clinical trial to receive.
I very much assume that this will be a home use product that will have to be set for your hearing/tinnitus at a clinic
Isabella 123
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I've read in more than one place that the volunteers were all chosen because they have the ability to alter the sound of their tinnitus by putting pressure on their head or clenching their jaws.
So I am assuming the device will only help those with that kind of tinnitus, which is not me. Another Fail.
So I am assuming the device will only help those with that kind of tinnitus, which is not me. Another Fail.
I wouldn't rule it out.
Maybe you could ask Susan Shore if you would likely benefit from the device?
And even those are probably not going to have much difference on their tinnitus; Lenire failed, why wouldn't this?
You're better off waiting for regeneration medicine like FX-322, PIPE-505 and OTO-413. I really hope PIPE-505 results are positive. That would put it about the same timeline as FX-322 so we could get both.
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In Dr. Shore's clinical trials there was great success. Some people actually had their tinnitus go away completely and the others had much quieter tinnitus. They found that the effect was not permanent so I think there's going to be a small device you use at home maybe every day or maybe once a week. This is what I read today in an interview with Dr. Shore.
What kind of tinnitus did those people have? Can you share a link to the interview please?
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They are able to change their tinnitus sound by applying pressure to their heads or clenching their jaws. This is disconcerting to me as I certainly can't do that! So now I'm wondering if this is going to be helpful!
Here's the link to that article:
This Small Device Could Silence the Maddening Symptoms of Tinnitus
Dr. Shore's device theoretically is a more targeted application.
Think instead of taking a painkiller this is applying it directly to the place it hurts.
Worth waiting on Phase 3 results.
The sample size of her trials to date was very small, smaller than Neuromod's even. I wouldn't draw any conclusions about it yet. The Minnesota device seemed more promising, TBH, but now that project is dead.
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My tinnitus is from neck and jaw issues. Before I got my TMJ splint, I had about 4-5 different sounds in different locations in my head. Now I only have 1 most of the time, but sometimes 2 sounds. I can never modulate my main sound, but if I yawn, turn my neck, etc I can modulate a second sound...
I'm wondering if Dr. Shore's device would help me?
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These Universities, especially one as big as Minnesota make tons of money. Too bad it got cancelled.
After the failure of the FX-322 Phase 2a, my hopes are now focused on Susan Shore's device.
But a question is bothering me; what do you think are the probabilities that this device causes trigeminal neuralgia?
We know that Lenire can cause this terrible disease (one person on this forum contracted this disease only 6 days after using Lenire).
This scares me a lot.
Do you know if Susan Shore's device stimulates the same nerves as Lenire?
But a question is bothering me; what do you think are the probabilities that this device causes trigeminal neuralgia?
We know that Lenire can cause this terrible disease (one person on this forum contracted this disease only 6 days after using Lenire).
This scares me a lot.
Do you know if Susan Shore's device stimulates the same nerves as Lenire?
What does the amount of money the universities make have to do with anything? Most of university research is the faculty being granted external funding by places like the national science foundation and many other funding repositories, and then the university actually *takes*, not gives, funds from the faculty to cover the expenses of their lab (overhead, utilities, janitorial services etc...). I was also under the impression until recently that universities directly funded research, but I have multiple friends who are doing PhDs and are Fullbright scholars, and they all tell me 95% of scientific grants come from funding outside the university itself (in the cases of the people I know - Cornell, Columbia, and Wisconsin-Madison).
More to the point - we shouldn't dismiss or put stock in this device until we have data - the emo pessimists in this thread should put on black eye shadow and go listen to Green Day in the parking lot behind their local mall.
I believe Dr. Shore's device does not stimulate the vagus nerve, though someone may correct me. It stimulates the cheek and neck rather than the tongue.
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Susan CPETL Shore
. In all seriousness she's doing a lot of good work and I hope it benefits us.
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