My apologies. I did not mean to sound so negative. It's just that after ten years of being on Tinnitus Talk (I've been away for a couple of years), I've seen so many things come and go, being hyped up that the cure was just around the corner. I am getting tired and skeptical.
With all due respect, @Bart, but your opinion (as well as mine and that of 99% of people) and the opinion of any audiologist/ENT specialist don't seem to matter much compared to a twenty-year study and the opinion of someone with multiple degrees who has dedicated 2/3 of her life to tinnitus research.
I think Lenire and Dr. Shore's device have very different actual mechanisms and outputs.
Well, Lenire has got such a bad rep here that people tend to forget it actually helps some people.
Everything under the sun is apparently helping "some people." Lenire, TRT, CBT, craniosacral therapy, diets, random cocktails of vitamins and minerals, the list goes on and on. I personally find "some people are susceptible to treatment A while others are susceptible to treatment B" a far less plausible explanation than "most people get better over time," which we already know for a fact.
Thank you for checking! I come to Tinnitus Talk hoping someone would tell me Auricle has been approved. I'll be looking for your post.
I bet you've never heard the expression 'cum hoc ergo propter hoc'.
I am profoundly disgusted by this Jastreboff now.
Thanks for checking. I'm sure many here would appreciate it if you posted here if you find anything related.
Eh, presumably, since it's such a big milestone AND public, the company in question would be quick to release a series of PR ops.
I checked this morning, and although hundreds of devices were approved last week, none were by Auricle or anything related to tinnitus.
You're right. I won't post anymore. I will continue to check for myself and allow you all to check for yourself. The Michigan Tinnitus Device, as it has been called, is the most promising thing on the horizon. If I am correct in my assessment, hundreds, if not thousands, of people, are members of this forum and are waiting expectantly. The more pessimistic, or those who have seen devices promise and then not deliver, tend to be much more cautious.
I'm one of those hoping that continued usage makes it go away FOR GOOD!
I, for one, would appreciate it if you ever came across any positive search results and posted them here.
8 months ago I would have been extremely excited for the device. Now, after hyperacusis and noxacusis kicking in, I'm afraid I won't be able to use the device.
-6 dB to -10 dB is considered half as loud. In the Q&A, Dr. Shore uses the -6 dB figure. In my testing, that's noticeable, but not life changing, so I really hope it's at least 12 dB reduction in the first few months of use and continues a downward trend from there.
IDK, man. I know it would do nothing for your hyperacusis or tensor tympani, but I feel a tinnitus reduction would be like a breath of fresh air. Even a small win would be huge, IMO. Plus, maybe you think like I do since we have similar sleep disturbances —perhaps the hyperactivity is related, and it could have unexplored but theoretical benefits there.
No, he's saying that he can't use the device at all. It could make his condition worse. The last thing you want to do is have loud electronic sounds piped right into your ear if you're suffering from noxacusis.
By some accounts, it helps MOST people—I've heard 75%, according to one audiologist. Never forget the sampling bias of getting your reviews from a sick-person forum. Don't get me wrong; I'm still afraid to try it, but thousands of people have now used Lenire, and almost no one on Tinnitus Talk has.
Yeah, a tinnitus reduction would be amazing. But I get pain from digital audio, so I don't think I'll be able to use the device.
Well, nowhere did we read '10.9 dB and then stop'. We only read 'up to 10.9 dB in 12 weeks,' so we HOPE that more weeks mean more reduction. I hope so, especially for those who are more severe.
Also, don't forget the sampling bias for one audiologist who will happily profit from selling it to you.
If it's recent, it could still fade. I have loudness hyperacusis, but it's very minor. However, it's also still there. It seems to flare when exposed to electronic/computer noise for a period of time, but hey, that's how I can afford to feed my family, so it's not like I can not do that.
That's not the user I was replying to, who also has hyperacusis and intends to use the device.
This is enough to persuade me to delurk, if only briefly.
I don't remember what the decibel level for the audio was or if this was even described in the study. I wonder if the audio level can be reduced to something that is just audible and still has a beneficial effect. When things first kicked in 13 years ago, I had catastrophic hyperacusis and tinnitus. The hyperacusis pretty much resolved as my nervous system (which was in a screaming hyperdrive, including panic attacks) calmed down.
The point is that the active treatment was six weeks, followed by six weeks of washout. Susan Shore said she doesn't know if the treatment will improve further if extended, but she thinks it will continue that trend, just as I stated in my previous post. The reduction was actually higher for some people and less for others. Those charts are just averages, so you can't assume the max reduction would be 10.9 dB in any event.
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