Notched Music Therapy (DIY, AudioNotch, etc.)
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either hearing loss or your speakers/headphones don't go higher than these frequencies.
MemberThus another proof that even after +30 years T can be lowered (and not necessarily is settled in the brain pathways!). Good luck for you. What a Christmas gift isn't!!!
- Jul 21, 2013
- 842
- Tinnitus Since
- 01/2013
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma from headphones
No joke Neenie, use that website. http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/. Keep it running in the background while you do work. My tinnitus is insanely high pitched (15 kHZ high pitched BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ) so I pull that bar all the way to 15 Khz, and then turn the sound off for the the higher frequencies (16402 & 20951) since I can't hear those anyways... no point in training the brain to hear notes that its not capable of hearing.Thanks man, I'll look into it. Always on the lookout for something new! I'm happy that you're tinnitus was down, that is fantastic news!
It has definitely had some effect on my brain. You can sit in absolute silence with that on low to mid volume and it'll be like that's the only sound in the room - no tinnitus. It's really helped my head snap out of the loop of hearing it, fearing it, hearing it, etc. Strangely enough, I have had periods of absolute silence (without that running) in situations where I should have heard my tinnitus, such as absolute silence + looking for it and not finding it for a bit of time... although it comes back as a HIGH pitched squeal (same as before) when I try hard to look for it.
Basically, the app does a great job at causing your tinnitus to either disappear or be muted when you listen to it. It makes your auditory system unable to play your tinnitus at blaring volumes in your head while it's running. It's very good as a therapeutic mechanism and frankly I've noticed some real improvement with my mood and attitude towards tinnitus as I have a "safety valve" that I can use to ease my mind. Considering tinnitus is such a hard thing to self evaluate, its hard to say if the improvement to the tinnitus volume is long lasting or not, but apparently that's what its supposed to do. We'll see if mine gets worse at some point
Oh, and don't freak out if your tinnitus increases slightly when you first start using it after you use it for a long session. It did for me. Glad I did not stop.
Neenie, please watch this video and it will explain in detail to what ACRN is doing for you.
free version (this is what i been using with great results)
http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/
So this is interesting (to me at least) I am finding it hard, as others have, to find my frequency. What makes it hard in part, is that after hearing a tone, my T almost disappears, and I have to wait 30 seconds, a minute, for it return, so I can compare the sounds again.
Strange but encouraging. BTW, the frequency is somewhere around 10 khz.
Strange but encouraging. BTW, the frequency is somewhere around 10 khz.
Ok, thanks man. So you basically work out your frequency then play the four frequencies they give. Can you only do that while you are sitting at your laptop or can you download them onto an mp3 player. And for how long? 2 hrs? How many days? And so this actually worked for you? Amazeballs!
yes, you play the 4 to retrain, i use headphones about 4 hrs a day at work, i have to wear headphones in there anyway as its the server room and very loud. and yes i did record a 30 min track off the website and play it on my iphone at night in a loop while i sleep.
after 2 weeks i could tell it was working, i think we supposed to listen to it for 12 weeks if i understand correct.
Sparks, what frequencies are you listening to? I tried playing them off the website directly using my iphone, but I can't hear anything. How did you get them into the phone?
Thanks
Rob
I sure hope it helps you as much as its helped me!
also mine is at 3500 in the right ear and 3200 in the left ear.
if i listen to the 3500 recording i can only hear 2 of the 4 sounds in my left ear.
i just used sound recorder in windows with a speaker cable plugged into both the line in and headphone jack then started sound recorder. once saved i copied it to my iphone with itunes.
i had a hard time finding mine also, make sure to use headphones, and cover 1 ear at a time, when you think you found it with the single frequency, click the play ACRN, if you dont hear 4 sounds, slide the bar back till you do hear all 4 sounds. at that point is where i used for mine.
I've tried Safari and Chrome, no luck so far. I haven't found Firefox for the iphone, it doesn't seem to exist.
it will not work from the website on iphone for me either, thats why i used desktop computer and recorded me a 30 min track to save, and copy to iphone to play in a loop
If I'm reading all these posts correctly, it sounds to me like notched therapy, or any of the therapies talked about here only work if you hear one tinnitus sound and can identify the frequency. Am I correct? It's sounding like no sound therapy would work for me since I have multiple sounds in one ear and hear a completely different tone in the other :-(
I played around with http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/ last night trying to identify at least one frequency I'm sure I hear. I have a moderate hearing loss and it's worst in one ear than the other. I was listening through regular earbuds at first and I would have to pump the volume up very loud to hear some frequencies in my right ear at all. Today, my tinnitus seemed worse and I've worried all day that I hurt my ears with those earbuds and turning up the volume so high in my right ear. Like a dummy, it finally occurred to me last night to put in my hearing aids and use the bluetooth connection to listen to the frequencies which was a much better idea. Sometimes I don't seem to have the sense I was born with. Anyway, I hope I didn't hurt myself. I'm so sick of this tinnitus mess.
I played around with http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/ last night trying to identify at least one frequency I'm sure I hear. I have a moderate hearing loss and it's worst in one ear than the other. I was listening through regular earbuds at first and I would have to pump the volume up very loud to hear some frequencies in my right ear at all. Today, my tinnitus seemed worse and I've worried all day that I hurt my ears with those earbuds and turning up the volume so high in my right ear. Like a dummy, it finally occurred to me last night to put in my hearing aids and use the bluetooth connection to listen to the frequencies which was a much better idea. Sometimes I don't seem to have the sense I was born with. Anyway, I hope I didn't hurt myself. I'm so sick of this tinnitus mess.
I did a cheap (free) Iphone workaround. Go to the generalfuzz site and get your frequency playing. Download a free app called Audio Loop. This app lets you record audio, then play it in an endless loop. I held my phone by the speakers and recorded a one minute section.
Now I have the acrn playing on my phone, and can take it anywhere with me. It worls with the Apple earbuds, and of course my Bose noise cancelling ones too.
Now to see if it works for me..............................
P.S. I am trying this at very low volume, I think that's the idea?
Now I have the acrn playing on my phone, and can take it anywhere with me. It worls with the Apple earbuds, and of course my Bose noise cancelling ones too.
Now to see if it works for me..............................
P.S. I am trying this at very low volume, I think that's the idea?
Hi Champ,
I got the same experience as you, but i don't need to find the exact same frequency, for example, i have some hearing loss on 8KHZ (based on the audio hearing test, I can only hear 8KHZ frequency on 30DB (normal ppl should hear within 0-20), i set to 8KHZ, and listen ACRN, my tinnitus seems gone, after took off my earphone, the tinnitus come back after a minute..
I am still testing other frequency....
Rgds,
Ricky
I got the same experience as you, but i don't need to find the exact same frequency, for example, i have some hearing loss on 8KHZ (based on the audio hearing test, I can only hear 8KHZ frequency on 30DB (normal ppl should hear within 0-20), i set to 8KHZ, and listen ACRN, my tinnitus seems gone, after took off my earphone, the tinnitus come back after a minute..
I am still testing other frequency....
Rgds,
Ricky
No joke Neenie, use that website. http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/. Keep it running in the background while you do work. My tinnitus is insanely high pitched (15 kHZ high pitched BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ) so I pull that bar all the way to 15 Khz, and then turn the sound off for the the higher frequencies (16402 & 20951) since I can't hear those anyways... no point in training the brain to hear notes that its not capable of hearing.
It has definitely had some effect on my brain. You can sit in absolute silence with that on low to mid volume and it'll be like that's the only sound in the room - no tinnitus. It's really helped my head snap out of the loop of hearing it, fearing it, hearing it, etc. Strangely enough, I have had periods of absolute silence (without that running) in situations where I should have heard my tinnitus, such as absolute silence + looking for it and not finding it for a bit of time... although it comes back as a HIGH pitched squeal (same as before) when I try hard to look for it.
Basically, the app does a great job at causing your tinnitus to either disappear or be muted when you listen to it. It makes your auditory system unable to play your tinnitus at blaring volumes in your head while it's running. It's very good as a therapeutic mechanism and frankly I've noticed some real improvement with my mood and attitude towards tinnitus as I have a "safety valve" that I can use to ease my mind. Considering tinnitus is such a hard thing to self evaluate, its hard to say if the improvement to the tinnitus volume is long lasting or not, but apparently that's what its supposed to do. We'll see if mine gets worse at some point
Oh, and don't freak out if your tinnitus increases slightly when you first start using it after you use it for a long session. It did for me. Glad I did not stop.
I just received at email reply from a researcher who has published on benefits of notched music. Study design of his paper I read partitioned participants into two groups; those with T frequency below/above 8 kHz. I will post or paraphrase his reply based on his stated permission to share.
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