Probably the Worst Thing That Can Happen!

[Bill Bauer]

The muffled hearing is rather unsettling but it does clear up in time.

Yes, ear fullness normally takes over 6 months to completely resolve.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Yes, ear fullness normally takes over 6 months to completely resolve.

Well Bill I really hope it didn't do permanent damage. I mean it almost feels worse and my tinnitus seems a bit worse. Thing is, she was extremely careful and even used an instrument that wasn't used when I had it done a long time ago. They now put a cone shaped instrument inside your ear to get the exact positioning of where to use the suction thing. I stopped her soon into the procedure.

It had only been maybe 10-12 seconds, where there was a 20 second break between each 3-5 seconds after a bit of wax was out. I just can't see the noise levels reaching as high as has been mentioned because I wasn't in any pain at any point thankfully. There were some loud pops but they didn't hurt they were uncomfortable.

Glad I stopped where I did but I can tell you for was extra careful after I explained my deep concern. I hope no damage was done but it almost seems more muffled. The chances should be low.

 

[glynis]

@JoshuaD2002 ,
Microsuction should help, you could still have crusted wax on your drum so keep putting drops in and it will come out.
It will more likely be mucus in tubes.
See your doctor and stop panicking.
love glynis

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Well Bill I really hope it didn't do permanent damage. I mean it almost feels worse and my tinnitus seems a bit worse. Thing is, she was extremely careful and even used an instrument that wasn't used when I had it done a long time ago. They now put a cone shaped instrument inside your ear to get the exact positioning of where to use the suction thing. I stopped her soon into the procedure.

It had only been maybe 10-12 seconds, where there was a 20 second break between each 3-5 seconds after a bit of wax was out. I just can't see the noise levels reaching as high as has been mentioned because I wasn't in any pain at any point thankfully. There were some loud pops but they didn't hurt they were uncomfortable.

Glad I stopped where I did but I can tell you for was extra careful after I explained my deep concern. I hope no damage was done but it almost seems more muffled. The chances should be low.

It kind of does feel more dull. But id be surprised if there's damage really. It was such a short amount of time with everything considered above. Overall I'd say it does feel worse. The hearing itself I'd say doesn't seem much worse but... who knows! Just seems too unlikely I mean I think if I'd let it go on for minutes... then there'd me issues.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

@JoshuaD2002 ,
Microsuction should help, you could still have crusted wax on your drum so keep putting drops in and it will come out.
It will more likely be mucus in tubes.
See your doctor and stop panicking.
love glynis

Well Glynis I just hope it's not damage. I assume you think it's unlikely but you didn't really say. I'm really freaking out. Good thing it was 10 seconds and not minutes.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Well Glynis I just hope it's not damage. I assume you think it's unlikely but you didn't really say. I'm really freaking out. Good thing it was 10 seconds and not minutes.

Update: it does feel worse.

 

[TuneOut]

I'm scared the suction did damage because things seem potentially more distorted. This could be because there was an attempt to remove manually but I don't know.

But you said there is still some wax in your ears because you had her stop the procedure, right? You need to get all of the wax out. Try the oil drops for a week and then use a spray bottle with warm water to try to get out the rest.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I mean it almost feels worse and my tinnitus seems a bit worse.

When T gets worse, You KNOW that it is worse. It is normal for T to fluctuate and when it does, on some days it "seems" worse, but of course there is no need to worry about it.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

When T gets worse, You KNOW that it is worse. It is normal for T to fluctuate and when it does, on some days it "seems" worse, but of course there is no need to worry about it.

Well Bill I'm super scared that perm damage was done. Many ive asked think it's unlikely I hope you agree ;(

 

[JoshuaD2002]

To be honest I think the tinnitus is worse. It got worse this afternoon weirdly straight after eating crunchy cereal. Of course my mind thinks that yesterdays suction did it. But in my opinion if the suction had done harm the effects would be quickly noticeable.

 

[Bill Bauer]

To be honest I think the tinnitus is worse. It got worse this afternoon weirdly straight after eating crunchy cereal. Of course my mind thinks that yesterdays suction did it. But in my opinion if the suction had done harm the effects would be quickly noticeable.

I hate to say it (as I had been involved in multiple arguments where the idea of T being caused by stress was discussed), but in your particular case it would seem that it is possible that your T is worse as a result of you being stressed out. For now, try to do something about your stress levels. You will know whether real damage had been done, only after some time passes.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

I hate to say it (as I had been involved in multiple arguments where the idea of T being caused by stress was discussed), but in your particular case it would seem that it is possible that your T is worse as a result of you being stressed out. For now, try to do something about your stress levels. You will know whether real damage had been done, only after some time passes.

Well Bill would you agree that permanent damage as a result of this very common procedure is more unlikely than likely?

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Thing is Bill, microsuction is replacing all other methods in local surgeries. It's become so so common now. Seems unlikely to be harmful after 10 seconds otherwise they just wouldn't implement it.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Something I stand by though, is that, if sounds of 140db, or even close, occurred yesterday, it would've absolutely hurt - this is well in to the pain threshold. This is what I can't understand, because I felt no pain.

 

[TuneOut]

Thing is Bill, microsuction is replacing all other methods in local surgeries. It's become so so common now. Seems unlikely to be harmful after 10 seconds otherwise they just wouldn't implement it.

Is there a system setup for doctors to report when a patient claims tinnitus is caused/worsened by microsuction? Or is it simply dismissed by the doctor in the small percentage of patients where this occurs?

Plus keep in mind that ears can be more susceptible to trauma once damaged. Although it's unlikely that only 10 seconds total of suctioning, with breaks in between, caused any damage.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Is there a system setup for doctors to report when a patient claims tinnitus is caused/worsened by microsuction? Or is it simply dismissed by the doctor in the small percentage of patients where this occurs?

Plus keep in mind that ears can be more susceptible to trauma once damaged. Although it's unlikely that only 10 seconds total of suctioning, with breaks in between, caused any damage.

I don't know but my tinnitus got louder this afternoon

The point is, I truly believe that in order for microsuction to inflict harm, either:

The procedure takes many minutes without breaks, or there are abnormalities like clarinetting. Yes I heard loud pops but they wouldn't have been loud enough. I didn't feel any pain as I said. Noises of dangerous decibels would've caused pain - there was none. The person was very very careful.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Everyone reading this. My anxiety is through the roof I've had several panic attacks today. I'm so so scared that this microsuction has ruined everything. But come on, it just shouldn't have done. If the danger was so high, it just wouldn't be done.. it was such a short amount of time, no clarinetting at all. I'm really scared right now my hearing hasn't improved my ear feels worse and my tinnitus got louder this afternoon. No way... help... reassurances....

 

[Bill Bauer]

Well Bill would you agree that permanent damage as a result of this very common procedure is more unlikely than likely?

Of course the chance of getting heard is much, much lower than 50%. My uneducated guess is that it has got to be under 5%.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Of course the chance of getting heard is much, much lower than 50%. My uneducated guess is that it has got to be under 5%.

Especially in my case where there was no clarinetting and for a short period. Well I'm probably another victim because my hearing is still bad and my tinnitus did actually get louder this afternoon! But wow 10 seconds of successful micro suction should not have done something seriously it shouldn't.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

I need some reassurance here there is just no way my microsuction did permanent damage. It just....how. So many MORE people, in fact, everyone who ever had microsuction, should have damage if I got damage from a very short and non-clarinetting procedure. But somehow i still have muffled hearing and pressure and louder tinnitus..oh come on really. Anybody tell me I'm right.

 

[TuneOut]

Especially in my case where there was no clarinetting and for a short period. Well I'm probably another victim because my hearing is still bad and my tinnitus did actually get louder this afternoon! But wow 10 seconds of successful micro suction should not have done something seriously it shouldn't.

Please don't underestimate the negative effects that stress and anxiety can have on the body. My suggestion is to try to forget about the suctioning. Move past it. I doubt that such a very limited exposure hurt you, anyway. Just try to relax and take things easy.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Please don't underestimate the negative effects that stress and anxiety can have on the body. My suggestion is to try to forget about the suctioning. Move past it. I doubt that such a very limited exposure hurt you, anyway. Just try to relax and take things easy.

Even double the time shouldn't be an issue when it normally takes minutes @TuneOut. The proffession itself is moving towards microsuction as the primary method. They simply wouldn't do it if they thought it was as dangerous as some people here are making it out to be

 

[Bill Bauer]

the chance of getting heard

*the chance of getting hurt

 

[Bill Bauer]

They simply wouldn't do it if they thought it was as dangerous as some people here are making it out to be

It is dangerous only for people whose ears had been compromised (e.g., T sufferers). For the majority of people it is safe.

They simply wouldn't do it if they thought it was as dangerous as some people here are making it out to be

You are the one who is experiencing problems following having a microsuction procedure. You are one of the people whose experiences lead me to believe that microsuction is not for people like us.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

It is dangerous only for people whose ears had been compromised (e.g., T sufferers). For the majority of people it is safe.
You are the one who is experiencing problems following having a microsuction procedure. You are one of the people whose experiences lead me to believe that microsuction is not for people like us.

Well Bill all I want to ask is if you agree with me in saying that this microsuction should not done damage, and that the fact that my ear is still muffled and feels full should not be due to this short microsuction- which caused me no pain.

Bill. Do you believe this damaged my hearing. I continue to believe it's very unlikely. It's scaring me alot. I just don't think it should've done.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Yes my tinnitus is louder. And it's keeping me up as is my unbearable anxiety, but I still think I would've noticed an increase quickly afterwards.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Ok my tinnitus is quite bad now. Need some serious support. Will it go down? It's quite bad. I would be surprised if the short microsuction had anything to do with it considering it loudens 24 hours later. Oh dear it's quite bad.

 

[TuneOut]

Ok my tinnitus is quite bad now. Need some serious support. Will it go down? It's quite bad. I would be surprised if the short microsuction had anything to do with it considering it loudens 24 hours later. Oh dear it's quite bad.

I honestly believe that it's a spike that will go back down. I say this from a lot of experience. One thing you could do to even it out psychologically, is to use this experience to benefit you in the future. The next time there is a loud situation, protect your ears or avoid it entirely. Again, though, I believe that your spike will go down. Be sure to get the rest of the wax out of your ears (see my above posts for advice.)

 

[JoshuaD2002]

I honestly believe that it's a spike that will go back down. I say this from a lot of experience. One thing you could do to even it out psychologically, is to use this experience to benefit you in the future. The next time there is a loud situation, protect your ears or avoid it entirely. Again, though, I believe that your spike will go down. Be sure to get the rest of the wax out of your ears (see my above posts for advice.)

I'm really scared. It's quite loud right now. I'm thinking back. Yes there were times during the suction where's it sounded a little squealy, ("clarinetting"), but It was not painfully loud.

I think I've become a victim. I should said no to it, having had a new onset 2 days before it after some bowls smashed, as I mentioned. What have I done...

 

[Bill Bauer]

Well Bill all I want to ask is if you agree with me in saying that this microsuction should not done damage, and that the fact that my ear is still muffled and feels full should not be due to this short microsuction- which caused me no pain.

In my personal experience, all it takes to cause T is a Fraction of a Second. The sound that had caused my acoustic trauma 18 months ago, lasted only fraction of a second. (It might also be the case that my T got caused by me performing Valsalva Maneuver to relieve the resulting ear fullness, it is impossible to tell...)

The reason I don't believe your ears got damaged is that your symptoms (if any!) have thus far been mild, and consistent with stress. Occam's Razor seems to imply that your symptoms are due to stress.

Ok my tinnitus is quite bad now.

Even if the cause is microsuction, you won't know for a while whether this spike is permanent or temporary. Your exposure time was very short, so hopefully it was not enough to do enough damage to make this T permanent...