Really Need Help Here. So Worried.

[JoshuaD2002]

14 DAYS IN UPDATE:

Left ear STILL rings. Perhaps quieter at times? Hard to tell. Still not sure how it could be noise induced!

After another period of greatly heightened anxiety, I actually started having bad pulsating tinnitus in the right ear! Luckily it went away quickly but there seems to be another ringing in the right ear now. Very similar to the ringing noise in the left but slightly different. Again, straight after severe stress.

Anyway my left ear still rings. I'm still confused as to how this happened. Any advice opinions or support appreciated.

Josh

 

[JoshuaD2002]

• protect your ears from very loud noises (concerts, sports events, etc); especially at the beginning I'd personally recommend a new tinnitus patient not to attend those places
• listen to white noise (preferably through speakers, e.g. of your pc/laptop) if you're in a quiet room so your brain doesn't focus solely on the tinnitus
• don't listen to music through earbuds or headphones (some people say it irritates their ears, others say it doesn't, but I don't think it hurts to stop using them, especially if someone just developed tinnitus)
• have some white noise on in the background while sleeping
• I don't know enough about supplements to recommend any but I've seen that magnesium is being discussed a lot on TinnitusTalk

Sorry to be pestering you but I've just woken up and the ringing is pretty bad now. I don't really understand why? Could it be the severe stress from the day before? Tinnitus really is unpredictable...

 

[Autumnly]

Sorry to be pestering you but I've just woken up and the ringing is pretty bad now. I don't really understand why? Could it be the severe stress from the day before? Tinnitus really is unpredictable...

Could definitely be stress. Did you sleep enough? Stress, anxiety, anger, other strong negative emotions, being tired, being dehydrated, all those things could cause spikes... some people say their tinnitus is usually worse in the morning and gets better during the day, for others it's the opposite.

Bad posture could also cause a spike for some. If you're studying a lot, always hunching over your books, this can put a lot of pressure on your neck and cervical spine.
Some people grind their teeth at night or clench their jaw when being stressed, those things could also have an impact on their tinnitus.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@JoshuaD2002 Hi Joshua

I read your postings and several things without hearing loss could point to systemic inflammation of some sort which is giving a somatosensory response. A researcher that we talk about a lot here, named Susan Shore said this a long time ago - "somatosensory response is much stronger with normal hearing."

What to consider: Hypertension needs to be controlled. A C-Reactive Protein and a Complete Blood Count Test should be given and at the same time. You only had tinnitus for a short time so don't panic. I understand that noise at school and at home is bothersome for you.

I not going to detail the process of a somatosensory response without hearing loss causing T, but have your parents ask your doctor for blood work for inflammation. If they find some inflammation then medicine should probably quickly clear it up. Your problem could be as simple as your body not storing iron and that would be an easy solve. If your GP doctor is willing - have him do a battery (lots) of blood testing.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

@JoshuaD2002 Hi Joshua

I read your postings and several things without hearing loss could point to systemic inflammation of some sort which is giving a somatosensory response. A researcher that we talk about a lot here, named Susan Shore said this a long time ago - "somatosensory response is much stronger with normal hearing."

What to consider: Hypertension needs to be controlled. A C-Reactive Protein and a Complete Blood Count Test should be given and at the same time. You only had tinnitus for a short time so don't panic. I understand that noise at school and at home is bothersome for you.

I not going to detail the process of a somatosensory response without hearing loss causing T, but have your parents ask your doctor for blood work for inflammation. If they find some inflammation then medicine should probably quickly clear it up. Your problem could be as simple as your body not storing iron and that would be an easy solve. If your GP doctor is willing - have him do a battery (lots) of blood testing.

Very interesting. My panic comes from the loudness really. Very confusing.

I'm seeing an ENT soon who I'll ask about this being a possibility. Thanks for your time. Are there foods and liquids I can have thst could help this?

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Very interesting. My panic comes from the loudness really. Very confusing.

I'm seeing an ENT soon who I'll ask about this being a possibility. Thanks for your time. Are there foods and liquids I can have thst could help this?

Little scared today because again I've had no quiet periods it's just remained the same all day. I hope this isn't an indicator that recovery has stopped. just the same loud rushy ringing in left ear. It can't be noise induced... surely. Haven't been exposed to loud noise execpt of course the shouting incident in my ear at school, about a week after the onset.
I think it's actually worse now to be honest. This is really sad for me. Even putting the noise filter earplugs in my ear, sometimes the plug will make a noise next to my ear as I fiddle to put it in. A loud noise. I'm rather uptight about this whole thing.

 

[glynis]

@JoshuaD2002 ,
Stress can cause lots of problems and excessive stress can trigger tinnitus and spike it for days on end.
Working on technique's for stress management will help you and medication if needed.
Try to stay calm and not show emotional response to your sound and just think ,my stupid ears are at it again and carry on about your day.
Reduction plugs are always good to have handy but only when your around sound well over what you are use to being around daily that could cause your ears harm. Even if your tinnitus is not caused through sound like myself I still protect them if go to the cinema or football or like my son's wedding in 3 weeks.
love glynis

 

[JoshuaD2002]

@JoshuaD2002 ,
Stress can cause lots of problems and excessive stress can trigger tinnitus and spike it for days on end.
Working on technique's for stress management will help you and medication if needed.
Try to stay calm and not show emotional response to your sound and just think ,my stupid ears are at it again and carry on about your day.
Reduction plugs are always good to have handy but only when your around sound well over what you are use to being around daily that could cause your ears harm. Even if your tinnitus is not caused through sound like myself I still protect them if go to the cinema or football or like my son's wedding in 3 weeks.
love glynis

Thanks @glynis
Bit of an emergency right now. Dog was barking so I covered by ears with palms and because my hands were sweaty (I have hyperhidrosis, excessive sweating), when I removed my palms it made a loud suction sound. It didn't hurt and my hearing didn't go muffled but I can hear a faint high pitched thing now. Wondering if it's connected. Otherwise my left ear is still at it. A rushing ringing.

 

[glynis]

You should be fine so try relax and stay calm with some sound on around you or tv.
Love glynis

 

[JoshuaD2002]

You should be fine so try relax and stay calm with some sound on around you or tv.
Love glynis

And these noise filtering earplugs are causing me more trouble than good, sometimes when my fingers slip when trying to take them out, the plastic rod of the plug flicks against my ear and it sounds really really loud. I think this could be perception though? Seems even louder after it happened again. Trying to stay calm but everytime a loud sounds happens and when I realise it's not even improved the next day, it panics me.

 

[glynis]

Check out pro plugs as are flat to your ear ...love glynis

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Check out pro plugs as are flat to your ear ...love glynis

Woken up this morning and it's really loud. Louder than yesterday. What if those plugs have spiked it? @glynis

 

[glynis]

It should settle down but any concern I would see your doctor for a check up.
Love glynis

 

[john paul]

Woken up this morning and it's really loud. Louder than yesterday. What if those plugs have spiked it? @glynis

I know exactly what you mean about it sounding loud when you run your finger along the shaft of the plug it sounds hella loud but its not enough to do any further damage i dont think. Id be inclined to think that its louder today because T just has this way of being different all the time. I have good days and bad days, not because anything has happened just because my brain is able to cope some days better than others based on how well i slept and ate and other hormonal things it all adds together. Try not to worry so much, time usually does its thing I'm sure you will get to the bottom of it soon. In the meantime make sure you look after yourself as much as you can to prevent any setbacks.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

I know exactly what you mean about it sounding loud when you run your finger along the shaft of the plug it sounds hella loud but its not enough to do any further damage i dont think. Id be inclined to think that its louder today because T just has this way of being different all the time. I have good days and bad days, not because anything has happened just because my brain is able to cope some days better than others based on how well i slept and ate and other hormonal things it all adds together. Try not to worry so much, time usually does its thing I'm sure you will get to the bottom of it soon. In the meantime make sure you look after yourself as much as you can to prevent any setbacks.

I think setbacks have already occurred because it's been 18 days now and in a silent room it's still getting loud. No improvements recorded at all. Shame.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

@john paul
I notice you say "further damage"

I just want to stress, again, that I did not expose myself to loud noise prior to the onset, or anywhere near the onset. For the last many months headphones, if ever used, are used on safe volume. I really find it difficult to belief that this is noise induced and will be very, very confused if that's the case!

 

[Bill Bauer]

No improvements recorded at all

While the above probably means that your T will last for many months, it does not mean that it won't eventually begin to fade.

What matters is the monthly trend. I learned that you can ignore the daily and even the weekly fluctuations. Try to get a sense of how loud it is now. A month or two from now see whether it has faded.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

While the above probably means that your T will last for many months, it does not mean that it won't eventually begin to fade.

What matters is the monthly trend. I learned that you can ignore the daily and even the weekly fluctuations. Try to get a sense of how loud it is now. A month or two from now see whether it has faded.

Well I just made a biiiig mistake. My brother screamed again and my sudden reflex meant I slapped the palms of my hands really hard over my ears. I think this may have been more damaging than the scream itself? Or is it unlikely this sort of thing would do damage.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Or is it unlikely this sort of thing would do damage.

The closer the source of the noise is to your ears, the more worrying it is. Having said this, there is a good chance that you will be ok. Just make sure to be more careful in the future.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

The closer the source of the noise is to your ears, the more worrying it is. Having said this, there is a good chance that you will be ok. Just make sure to be more careful in the future.

Well I'm very very angry now. Was sitting in the living room without noise filtering plugs and my toddler brother lets out an almighty scream about 5 metres away. No one else in the room seemed to be bothered by the scream really, no one flinched. For me I would say that was a good 120db, and it came shortly after he threw a toy car on the floor, which again, I thought was very loud but no one else really flinched.

AND NOW.... ringing louder and I think the other ear might be ringing

Strange that no one else in the room comes away from this with tinnitus or finds the sounds uncomfortable?

@glynis @john paul

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Well I'm very very angry now. Was sitting in the living room without noise filtering plugs and my toddler brother lets out an almighty scream about 5 metres away. No one else in the room seemed to be bothered by the scream really, no one flinched. For me I would say that was a good 120db, and it came shortly after he threw a toy car on the floor, which again, I thought was very loud but no one else really flinched.

AND NOW.... ringing louder and I think the other ear might be ringing

Strange that no one else in the room comes away from this with tinnitus or finds the sounds uncomfortable?

@glynis @john paul

*YES the other ear rings. No ringing reported from anyone else, nor did they find the loud sounds very uncomfortable. Great. The other ear.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Strange that no one else in the room comes away from this with tinnitus or finds the sounds uncomfortable?

Our ears have been compromised. Sounds that others don't notice have the potential to have serious consequences for us. I would wear some hearing protection whenever I am in the same room as a toddler...

 

[glynis]

@JoshuaD2002,
Children will scream so you need change your reaction to it so you won't fear it happenings again or wear hearing protection all the time around him as it could cause Hyperacusis to other sounds.
Just remember spikes will settle down so stay calm.
You can start telling your brother little stories about a big brother who does not like loud sounds even use a puppet and make it fun to learn about loud sound and your ears.
Love glynis

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Our ears have been compromised. Sounds that others don't notice have the potential to have serious consequences for us. I would wear some hearing protection whenever I am in the same room as a toddler...

Do you think serious harm has occurred? I'd be very surprised.

 

[Jason37]

The loudest scream was 129 db. It may sound loud but it was no where near the world record...not even 90 probobly

 

[Bill Bauer]

Do you think serious harm has occurred?

Your ears can probably withstand several of these screams. But if you are subjected to these screams long enough, all bet might be off. It will be especially bad if the scream originates very close to your ear.

 

[Lisa2018]

@JoshuaD2002 I've been protecting my ears whenever i am in a place with other people or animals (any -being that can produce unexpected noise) and especially kids!! I even do this when I myself might produce unexpected noise such as when making tea or doing any activity in the kitchen.

You can have earpluggs custom made to block out certain tones, etc. The only place i dont use them is in bed or when am in my office working. Ringtones of my phones are at the lowest possibly volume. Unnecessary noise for entertainment is avoided completely.

Try being overprotective for your ears and allow your ears to use all their energy in healing instead of working for you. You will have less such traumas and meanwhile your ears will heal. I know it sounds like living with a handicap/ limitations but you will be much more in control.

Good luck.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Your ears can probably withstand several of these screams. But if you are subjected to these screams long enough, all bet might be off. It will be especially bad if the scream originates very close to your ear.

Well thankfully he wasn't thst close and my bad ear was facing away. The ringing has actually loudened again since the toy being thrown and the scream (both of which were very loud to me). Taking extra precautions now.

So we are 3 weeks in. The ringing has seemed up and down. Seems very "up" as of the 2 micro shocks yesterday.

 

[JoshuaD2002]

Well thankfully he wasn't thst close and my bad ear was facing away. The ringing has actually loudened again since the toy being thrown and the scream (both of which were very loud to me). Taking extra precautions now.

So we are 3 weeks in. The ringing has seemed up and down. Seems very "up" as of the 2 micro shocks yesterday.

My big question @Bill Bauer. The increase was delayed/ or at least I didn't notice it until this afternoon. Either that or it's just a coincidence that it's louder today and I'm thinking too much about the loud noises?

Do you think damage was done? I had done a good job of protecting up until the unfortunate events of yesterday.

 

[Jason37]

If you protect your ears all the time you can develop hyperacusis....they sounded loud because you were listening for loud noises. If you keep wearing ear plugs all the time your ears will try to hear more and become way more sensitive, every day noise will not hurt you.