Solsaem Clinic (Dr. Minbo Shim) Experience
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Thanks - I have the Koss headphones and R. David Case's Anti-Tinnitus file downloaded to my phone.
I will also try Tinnitus Mix.
ajc
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- Feb 6, 2018
- 1,170
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Loud music - noise damage
MRItechssuck
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I guess you wear the headphones while sleeping?
...since the site (thanks for the link!) recommends using at night, but then recommends the headphones. It cautions against using with hyperacusis (I have some) but an interesting thing to try.
Thanks.
...since the site (thanks for the link!) recommends using at night, but then recommends the headphones. It cautions against using with hyperacusis (I have some) but an interesting thing to try.
Thanks.
It's free and certainly worth a try before jet setting to another country for a very expensive and unguaranteed set of invasive surgical procedures.
MRItechssuck
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Hi,
I'm reading the thread of 56 pages where initially everyone was very skeptical of this... did you eventually believe him and/or try his Tinnitus Mix?
Thanks.
I never disbelieved him, I just thought his explanation was nutty. I am 3 nights in right now.
MRItechssuck
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- Aug 21, 2014
- 5,049
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- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- karma
I'd sort of hope that if this testament worked well enough to justify travel and expense, the people treated wouldn't still be here a year later posting about curcumin and Lenire and still apparently grasping hard for better solutions.
No offense, @JohnAdams. I think you've been very upfront about your own experience, and appreciate that you use lots of words like "unproven" to caveat what you're saying.
I wish this could get a 200 person RCT performed in the UK or here in FreedomLand®
No offense, @JohnAdams. I think you've been very upfront about your own experience, and appreciate that you use lots of words like "unproven" to caveat what you're saying.
I wish this could get a 200 person RCT performed in the UK or here in FreedomLand®
Allan Mcmillan
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- May 11, 2019
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- April 30 2019
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic shock from playing guitar with headphones
Going in February, Since Ill be in Thailand anyway and it's a relatively short flight. Might go for 4 shots (2 trips) in total.
Also, we had a korean mule call into Minbo's office. He does PRP for about $300 a shot for PRP and usually administers one shot every 2 weeks and monitors results. I'm not sure why his procedure for foreign patients is so different.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
What exactly is a Korean mule call? And why did they call in? Was it for cheaper rates and only PRP?
Are you still going to India for PRP injections? Or maybe South Korea?
I never got any IT PRP rates from Dr. Mamatarani Rout in India.
Also asked if they did a lot of them for tinnitus.
Not much response from her. I guess I could contact the male Dr. instead.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
Any improvement whatsoever Tinniturd? I suppose you wouldn't recommend Dr. Shim at this point. I wonder if IT PRP in India would do anything... whole lot cheaper anyway.
I don't get much response from Dr. Mamatarina Rout.
Because they can go for a much longer period, because they live there. With foreign patients it is a one time shot as quick as possible. Once again, this is why this needs further widespread trials and testing. Oh you can't patent PRP, so no money to invest in clinical trials.
I know everything. There are people I don't want to drag into this so I am staying out of it. I drop dimes for a reason. I've basically said a lot without saying it about this clinic and very few of you seem to know how to read between the lines.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
Wow, this thread has really progressed quite a lot.
First of all, if a journal claims to be open-source, make sure they are a member of one of these organisations:
https://oaspa.org/membership/members/
https://publicationethics.org/
https://doaj.org/
Doing a quick check of Acta Scientific does not yield great results. They are not a member of any of the organisations listed above, and not only that, but a well known predatory journal site (Beall's List) has recently rated them as potentially predatory. Someone else also left this review about them:
This is from Beall's list:
It also says that there is no conflict of interest and yet they are charging people for it. They are the only people I'm aware of - along with Dr Shim - that does this treatment. I'd say that's a pretty big conflict of interest.
Basically, all I'm saying is be to be really careful! Don't believe everything you read and always try to verify that the information you are reading is legit. At the end of the day, it's your health that is at stake in all of this, not just your wallet.
Be careful when it comes to journals that are little known as many are predatory and will publish anything as long as they are paid. You should always research publications that are obscure if you want to guarantee authenticity.
First of all, if a journal claims to be open-source, make sure they are a member of one of these organisations:
https://oaspa.org/membership/members/
https://publicationethics.org/
https://doaj.org/
Doing a quick check of Acta Scientific does not yield great results. They are not a member of any of the organisations listed above, and not only that, but a well known predatory journal site (Beall's List) has recently rated them as potentially predatory. Someone else also left this review about them:
This is from Beall's list:
It also says that there is no conflict of interest and yet they are charging people for it. They are the only people I'm aware of - along with Dr Shim - that does this treatment. I'd say that's a pretty big conflict of interest.
Basically, all I'm saying is be to be really careful! Don't believe everything you read and always try to verify that the information you are reading is legit. At the end of the day, it's your health that is at stake in all of this, not just your wallet.
Thanks cool cat.
Interesting read... and still not 1 audiogram. Maybe there will be a place for PRP in the future, maybe not. Perhaps it could be used in tandem with other drugs just to help with healing of the tympanic membrane etc...
Stefan Heller wrote to me and said there is no scientific foundation to the claims that PRP practitioners make for hair cell regeneration, or some kind of regeneration in the inner ear. Was he being honest, or being diplomatic with me as some here speculated. I m not a scientist, I also have bad hearing. So.................. I can only observe, read and try my best to figure out what is possible and what is unrealistic................
I am waiting for small molecule drugs if they ever come or some technology that can benefit me. If it doesn't happen, that's ok... I am pushing on and mentally positive now for me and my family (no mistresses... ha) and accept and accommodate to my handicap and different way of life.
PRP remains contentious even in treating arthritis (spelling) and sports injuries. A lot of hype by practitioners and the most popular use seems to be cosmetic face skin treatments. Why is it not being used by ENTs in the USA, my home?
Could be that there is too much of a risk for law suits and medical insurance would be through the roof e.g 70 -80 injections is a lot, higher odds of problems etc. OR the method just simply doesn't work and hasn't been adopted by ENTs. Or it works and ENTs are just slow to change. The latter is often true in medicine, industry and science.
I don't have the answers right now, but am certainly inclined to wait for reasons of efficacy and finances. I would like to see audiograms of befores and afters that are convincing and transparent. I again defer to Dr. Silverstein's work for the round window and stapes. It's all recorded, before and after, submitted to the NIH and completely sound. The patient knows the risk and benefit percentages, which are now 80 %. That's a good number. If FX-322 can benefit 80 % of patients or some other similar drug, that would be a revolution.
Calmly waiting... and living the best I can...
Your thoughts, just1morething, fellow sufferers?
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
You could be right. At least their prices aren't outrageous like Dr. Shim's but if PRP doesn't work it's still a very long flight and there could be complications. It sounded legit but you never know.
I did buy some medications (benzos) from an India source that were marked up ridiculously in the past year because I couldn't get them locally and I was desperate. Also had a bad experience with a computer tech firm from India but got my money credited back to my credit card.
I deal some with HP Smartfriend and they seem decent. Most of their technicians are based out of India. Some are from Nova Scotia also.
@Ed209, I hope some of your health problems are improving or you are at least getting to the bottom of them.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
It does seem like they could do IT PRP injections in the US if they really worked. I had IT dexamethasone treatments back in 2010, 2011 at Paparella and Shea.
Maybe in India they don't have to deal with the restrictions like the FDA here? I don't know if Silverstein would know about PRP injections for sensorineural hearing loss? I could give them a holler.
I agree it's significantly cheaper but the price doesn't really indicate much when it comes to efficacy.
My problems are still ongoing but I've had some tests done for the urology issue which wasn't much help, to be honest. My shoulders and knees are still knackered, though, amongst other things. I also had a wisdom tooth removed because it was traumatising my lower gum. At times I feel about 80 years old.
Hope all is well with you, obliviously ignoring your current tinnitus issues.
From that article:
"Out of 200 patients with injection PRP intratympanic, 172 patients were having improvement in hearing after 5 times of repeated injections and 28 patients didn't show any improvement in hearing. Out of 28 patients, 19 patients were above 70years and with diabetes, and 9 were above 70 years old"
5 times? I had like 100 treatments.
This needs further study, preferably not in India.
"Out of 200 patients with injection PRP intratympanic, 172 patients were having improvement in hearing after 5 times of repeated injections and 28 patients didn't show any improvement in hearing. Out of 28 patients, 19 patients were above 70years and with diabetes, and 9 were above 70 years old"
5 times? I had like 100 treatments.
This needs further study, preferably not in India.
- Jan 25, 2013
- 3,573
- Tinnitus Since
- 2008
- Cause of Tinnitus
- TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
The guy is a fucking snake in the grass scammer. For all the evidence that has come up showing his inconsistencies, I can't believe you dummies are still going to see him.
Obviously he is trying to take money away from rich foreigners. This is so damn black and white I don't feel bad for the people who piss money on this guy.
I bet he could come out with a new treatment to piss in your ear to cure your tinnitus and y'all would jump at the opportunity.
They guy is a crook and is playing all of you. No wonder he operates in Korea and Russia. It's the Wild West of medicine out there.
The best part is John thinks he is an insider and knows what the hell is going on. Does he call Shim up before bedtime and have him read him a bedtime story? If he truly thinks Shim is giving him insider information, he is getting played like a puppet, it's rather sad. Also, why is Dr. Shim discussing specifics of Aldo's case with John? What happened to Doctor patient privacy of information? Not very professional of Shim to talk about his patients medical information and situation with random people on the Internet. I mean John did pay him over 30k so maybe he feels he owes John something since he plays him like a fiddle.
Is there some evidence that PRP can help heal the ear? Sure there is some evidence, but it hasn't been studied on the level needs to be.
Also, since the medical community in Korea doesn't even acknowledge Shim, why the hell would you trust him. He is prob injecting water into peoples ears for 9k a pop. No regulation with this guy.
Don't be dumb people and save your money from this scammer. And don't listen to keyboard "medical experts" who took biology in high school and think they are bioengineers or PhDs in biology.
You don't even know what you're babbling about. I participated in the creation of my own PRP. You can even taste it when it is dripping out of your Eustachian tubes.
Look at what a loser you are, going nuts and getting all worked up like a little child over this.
Nobody is even planning on going here at all anymore anyway. This is my thread, do you see me telling anyone to go? I have consistently stated that this needs to be actually studied in a clinical trial.
Why are you such a loser man?
ajc
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- Feb 6, 2018
- 1,170
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Loud music - noise damage
He would never have the balls to say these things with his own face and real identity.
Disregard the asshole.
He claims Shim played me like a fiddle. He never sold me on anything. I did my own research into this before I went, and I understood the risks. Shim actually never explained PRP or anything at all to me. Whoever this Tom guy is he has some serious problems. He thinks he knows everything and has to trash talk everyone that even breathes in a manner that he thinks is incorrect. I bet he mentally and emotionally abuses people in his family and has no real friends.
When did trying to help people avoid being scammed become loser behavior? Guess things have changed since my day.
I would say it to anyone's face. I would love to meet Shim and tell him to his face he is a piece of shit scam artist taking advantage of a desperate group of people.
I feel better knowing Karma is gunna get Shim one way or another.
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