South Korean Clinic Treatment (Dr. Minbo Shim)

Would you consider any improvement in the thresholds a success or are you trying to reach a certain dB?
If I could increase 10 decibels per frequency, I would be happy. Dr. Shim said it will likely take 2 months for the regenerative medicine to work so I will not know for about 2 months.
 
If I could increase 10 decibels per frequency, I would be happy. Dr. Shim said it will likely take 2 months for the regenerative medicine to work so I will not know for about 2 months.
You may have missed this post in the other thread but would appreciate a response to this:

"Good luck. Do you have any middle ear issues? Like pain, fullness, change in hearing, internal sounds etc? Would be interested to see if the PRP can have local healing to middle ear muscles, eardrum, and local mucosa."
 
You may have missed this post in the other thread but would appreciate a response to this:

"Good luck. Do you have any middle ear issues? Like pain, fullness, change in hearing, internal sounds etc? Would be interested to see if the PRP can have local healing to middle ear muscles, eardrum, and local mucosa."
Only conductive losses due to the fluid in my middle ear. After every treatment my hearing worsens due to the injections.
 
Only conductive losses due to the fluid in my middle ear. After every treatment my hearing worsens due to the injections.
Is that the treatment fluid or mucus due to Eustachian tube problems before the treatment?

My question was about your ear issues before starting treatment, if that makes sense. I think I saw a post of yours where you said you had middle ear exploration and that damaged your eardrum but I assume that's all resolved now?
 
Is that the treatment fluid or mucus due to Eustachian tube problems before the treatment?

My question was about your ear issues before starting treatment, if that makes sense. I think I saw a post of yours where you said you had middle ear exploration and that damaged your eardrum but I assume that's all resolved now?
No ETD. The fluid is from the injections, it sloshes around in there for like 4 - 5 days. I had an acoustic trauma to my left ear (better hearing ear), my right ear us undergoing another middle ear exploration on 8/5. They suspect I have ossicular discontinuity as I have huge conductive losses in my right ear plus a very flaccid/floppy eardrum.
 
Pain wasn't that bad during the bone marrow extraction from my pelvis; they inject you with lidocaine. The PRP doesn't hurt at all... Just your ear feels clogged afterwards...

I'm doing a total of 2 bone marrow ear injections and 3 PRP injections plus LLLT. I guess the laser helps activate the regenerative cells.

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This being Dr. Shim and TS I presume. Cool pic.

Regenerative therapies, in practical terms Dr. Shim and/or StemCells21, are the only kind of treatments that have a record of actually bringing results. Dr. Shim's injections, judging from @JohnAdams's experience, are heavy artillery. It would be major news if TS also gets relief. Especially since the treatment now is made available in the US.

We'll know in a couple of months... :nailbiting:

The best of luck to TS.
 
No ETD. The fluid is from the injections, it sloshes around in there for like 4 - 5 days. I had an acoustic trauma to my left ear (better hearing ear), my right ear us undergoing another middle ear exploration on 8/5. They suspect I have ossicular discontinuity as I have huge conductive losses in my right ear plus a very flaccid/floppy eardrum.
Hopefully the fluid lasting there for all those days allows the healing properties to disburse fully where needed. I wonder if he could use a gel in the future as a way to improve patient experience as in this study. It would help the annoying sloshing problem:

Role of Platelet Rich Plasma in Tympanoplasty

Hope it works for you. I am looking for some treatment for seemingly increased internal sounds threshold that is made worse with stress, exertion. (neck movements, pulse, voice etc). I experience pain when I get a tympanometry test in the problem ear despite good pressure values. Leading me to conclude that I have some damage in the middle ear so this is why I'm interested in this. I sympathise with you as in my experience structural, physical issues with the middle ear and their symptoms is worse than tinnitus.
 
Hopefully the fluid lasting there for all those days allows the healing properties to disburse fully where needed. I wonder if he could use a gel in the future as a way to improve patient experience as in this study. It would help the annoying sloshing problem:

Role of Platelet Rich Plasma in Tympanoplasty

Hope it works for you. I am looking for some treatment for seemingly increased internal sounds threshold that is made worse with stress, exertion. (neck movements, pulse, voice etc). I experience pain when I get a tympanometry test in the problem ear despite good pressure values. Leading me to conclude that I have some damage in the middle ear so this is why I'm interested in this. I sympathise with you as in my experience structural, physical issues with the middle ear and their symptoms is worse than tinnitus.
Yah defffffff no gel on the bone marrow injections or the PRP either. But he uses some activating agent that stings like hell...
 
An email I got back.

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Interesting, I only live a few hours from Seattle. I'm not convinced this treatment works though.
Someone whose email name is "holy mary" doesn't sound encouraging. It's not "Hail Mary" but still, sounds like say your prayers.

Just kidding. The problems with PRP are others and have been discussed elsewhere. I hope it works for all who are trying. John Adams had good results with it, which is encouraging.
 
Just kidding. The problems with PRP are others and have been discussed elsewhere. I hope it works for all who are trying. John Adams had good results with it, which is encouraging.
I don't recall him posting any improvements.

IIRC, he acknowledged that there wasn't any tangible benefits at the end of the long treatment (when looking at audiograms).

Could be remembering incorrectly - been a while.
 
I don't recall him posting any improvements.

IIRC, he acknowledged that there wasn't any tangible benefits at the end of the long treatment (when looking at audiograms).

Could be remembering incorrectly - been a while.
It looks like he made several claims, I seem to recall him saying he was helped at some point, but you may be right, he might have rectified it later. I don't have the strength to go and re-read the whole topic, or to do much else for that matter. I'm still in full survival mode.
 
I don't recall him posting any improvements.

IIRC, he acknowledged that there wasn't any tangible benefits at the end of the long treatment (when looking at audiograms).
I have improved tremendously since this treatment but I have not been cured.
It is expensive. Dr. Shim does not guarantee anything.
If anyone wants to have this treatment, then go for it. I experienced improvement. Glenn did not. Neither of us showed any improvement on our audiograms. Which it really should have.
I'm 100% that others should try this. I want this to be tested more.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/solsaem-clinic-dr-minbo-shim-experience.33543/page-59
 
Thanks for the quotes...

Here are a few more that could have been included:

(About the "Tinnitus Mix") - "It's free and certainly worth a try before jet setting to another country for a very expensive and unguaranteed set of invasive surgical procedures." (#2015)

"Don't just up and go. I'm not so sure if my improvements are from using neurotrophics and curcumin, or this, or both." (#1680)

"I can't even agree that my improvements were due to the treatment." (#2132)

And finally, from your own quotes:

"If anyone wants to have this treatment, then go for it. I experienced improvement. Glenn did not. Neither of us showed any improvement on our audiograms. Which it really should have."

Treatments that yield non-measurable improvements don't rate super high on my confidence scale, I'm afraid.
 
Thank you for digging this out. I really couldn't do it now.
JohnAdams was clearly bullish on the treatment after having completed it, but the results from Tinnitus Talk members who tried it is so far inconclusive.

I will now make an effort not to lurk this thread until the beginning of September, when we should have the early results from @scotty03874's treatment.
 
JohnAdams was clearly bullish on the treatment after having completed it, but the results from Tinnitus Talk members who tried it is so far inconclusive.

I will now make an effort not to lurk this thread until the beginning of September, when we should have the early results from @scotty03874's treatment.
Vincent, you indicated you also had this treatment. Could you expound a little bit more please? And of course I'll update the forum in the upcoming months.
 
Vincent, you indicated you also had this treatment. Could you expound a little bit more please? And of course I'll update the forum in the upcoming months.
No, that's a misunderstanding. I have not done any regenerative therapy to date. I am presently in the phase of saving up the money for it.
 
Has anyone done any investigations into Dr. Tyagi and his claims that PRP injections work for hearing loss?

Use Of PRP Injection For Sensorineural Hearing Loss - By Dr. Brajpal Singh Tyagi | Lybrate
Says it also involves a cochlear implant. Maybe you could ask to get the PRP alone though.

What is a cochlear implant like in regards to tinnitus and hyperacusis? I don't like the idea of it at all myself since it removes the option of potentially getting something like FX-322 in the future.
 

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