The Phenomenon — New Documentary (2020)

[GBB]

Now Obama on record! He makes a joke but he is serious at 1 minute mark!

"I'm actually being serious here - there are footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are - we cannot explain how they move, their trajectory - they do not have an easily explainable pattern..."

Link to video

 

[GlennS]

a few clips of unusual footage

It's not just "a few clips of unusual footage". It's testimony, none of which has been denied by the Pentagon. I have a feeling had you been on those ships in the midst of these incidents you still wouldn't have believed it. Some people won't believe unless they get personally anal-probed.

 

[prowlinacage]

I'd love to see disclosure in my lifetime, but I can also understand the motivation to keep it hidden. There are people who truly would lose their minds over something like that. Religious dogmas... poof! Uprooted in an instant. Not sure the world is ready for that. I say rip the band-aid off, but still... there will be collateral damage.

 

[GlennS]

I'd love to see disclosure in my lifetime, but I can also understand the motivation to keep it hidden. There are people who truly would lose their minds over something like that. Religious dogmas... poof! Uprooted in an instant. Not sure the world is ready for that. I say rip the band-aid off, but still... there will be collateral damage.

I just find it odd that we psychologically have no problem casually watching decades of sci-fi where we go out and encounter alien civilizations but the idea that they're here makes some want to crawl into the fetal position. I mean, you'd think we'd all be very well prepared for the idea of the cosmos being full of intelligence, official religious dogma or no.

 

[GBB]

U.S. Finds No Evidence of Alien Technology in Flying Objects, but Can't Rule It Out, Either

 

[GBB]

The report determines that a vast majority of more than 120 incidents over the past two decades did not originate from any American military or other advanced U.S. government technology, the officials said. That determination would appear to eliminate the possibility that Navy pilots who reported seeing unexplained aircraft might have encountered programs the government meant to keep secret.

But that is about the only conclusive finding in the classified intelligence report, the officials said. And while a forthcoming unclassified version, expected to be released to Congress by June 25, will present few other firm conclusions, senior officials briefed on the intelligence conceded that the very ambiguity of the findings meant the government could not definitively rule out theories that the phenomena observed by military pilots might be alien spacecraft.

 

[GBB]

NASA has officially entered the game:

NASA is getting serious about UFOs

 

[GBB]

Wall Street Journal:

UFO Report Says 'Unidentified Aerial Phenomena' Defy Worldly Explanation

 

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In dramatic shift, national intelligence director does not rule out 'extraterrestrial' origins for UFOs

 

[Damocles]

At this point I'm not really hanging on the IF anymore but rather the WHY.

And you're certain of this, how?

The evidence is already extraordinary. Many eyewitnesses, sensor and camera data all simultaneously recording encounters over a period of years. The footage that's been declassified is merely the tip of the iceberg of what the military has available. I would imagine we're talking about hours upon hours of footage and hundreds of eyewitnesses who are remaining quiet due to fear of ridicule or reprimand.

We send these craft to harass our own troops repeatedly... potentially causing them to open fire and destroy them? Are you serious???

Stealth fighters were tested out in Area 51 because it's sparsely populated and those who did so knew exactly what they were doing. They did not fly the U2 or SR-71 in such a way that they would get shot down by our own troops. You citing friendly-fire is bogus. That's about a hot war zone, not routine peacetime maneuvers.

I'm afraid, as the Bard once wrote, "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

As I've made my rounds online on this topic I encounter types such as you, those for whom no amount of evidence will ever be sufficient. It will be interesting to see how large a segment of the population that turns out to be. Considering that 40% of Republicans don't even think the election was legit it's easy to see how people have severe critical thinking deficits. Look, I'm not denying it's a tough leap to accept the presence of aliens. I used to be a skeptic but the Nimitz footage released in 2017 through the New York Times broke through my resistance. If the evidence manifests itself, at some point you have to just defer to it, as fantastical as it may be. It's like, we routinely watch sci-fi where we go out and meet aliens all the time but we have this mental block that prevents us from considering the idea they're coming here? I just don't get it. I mean, I know the field is full of quacks and grifters, and many of the specific claims they make are highly speculative and probably bogus, but that doesn't necessarily mean there isn't some truth underneath it all.

It's not just "a few clips of unusual footage". It's testimony, none of which has been denied by the Pentagon. I have a feeling had you been on those ships in the midst of these incidents you still wouldn't have believed it. Some people won't believe unless they get personally anal-probed.

There's just something comically absurd about a guy stubbornly insisting that outside intelligent life forms are routinely visiting Earth, without it being common knowledge to us all; but drawing the line at believing several multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical businesses would pay the media, government, and a handful of prominent science and health experts (the former half, who already own massive amounts of stock in said businesses and vice versa) to endorse, "mandate" and sway information in favour of, their faulty product.

But GG for the lack of convention, I suppose.

 

[GlennS]

It's funny how people are relying on the federal government's imprimatur to classify UFOs as real or imaginary, as if they are the ultimate arbiters. Appeals to authority don't really carry much weight these days anyway. It really shouldn't matter in the end what shows up in an official government press-release. The body of evidence is what matters, not the government's seal of approval.

 

[GBB]

'This is urgent': Bipartisan proposal for UFO office pushes new boundaries

 

[GBB]

It's funny how people are relying on the federal government's imprimatur to classify UFOs as real or imaginary, as if they are the ultimate arbiters. Appeals to authority don't really carry much weight these days anyway. It really shouldn't matter in the end what shows up in an official government press-release. The body of evidence is what matters, not the government's seal of approval.

I agree, hopefully the Gallileo project out of Harvard will yield the first real results. They are helmed by the longest serving astronomy chair at Harvard, Avi Loeb, and are aiming to raise 100m dollars for UAP research. They have raised 2m in the last couple of months via private donations and are already building their first sensor array.

They have said they will only use public data so that nothing can be classified and will regularly report to the public. Pretty cool!

https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/activities

 

[ZFire]

So U.S. Congress will be holding a public hearing tomorrow 9AM (ET) on reports of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) skirting through the skies. Don't remember the last time we've had hearings on UFOs lul...

The House Intelligence Committee's Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee will oversee the hearing.

Anyways, should be a lot of fun.

 

[ZFire]

@GBB

This is what they were trying to freeze frame in the hearing yesterday.

I don't know why I thought we were going to get new info. Some interesting stuff was said though, like that there has been 11 near misses between objects and US aircraft recently, and some emit RF frequencies, we haven't tried to communicate with objects. But the good stuff like the underwater phenomenon can only be discussed behind closed sessions for some reason.

Last I recalled, the vast majority of sightings for UFOs are in the US to a ludicrous extent. Which really begs the question... If it's aliens or anything else, why do they come to the US so much?

If it's actually US government secret experiments, well that would explain a lot. It could be some unexplained natural phenomenon due to atmospheric conditions similar to why we have more tornadoes than other countries.

 

[GBB]

Came back to post this:

INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN