I dont know if I should believe it or not that the brain eventually memorizes this sound, but Im open to any theory, but I think it has to be proven somehow.
Yes, I have a feeling of fullness in my ears. I would classify it as a "funny" feeling.
I think it was you that experienced some stinging headaches while doing situps before the onset of your T? Maybe it was
@Sjtof
But it seems like both of you did.
I experienced stinging headaches before the onset of my T as well, but it was only when I was sitting in my car for a long time, and it was only during long car drives I started to develop weird Ts that would go away when I got out of my car. Later they started to happen when I sat in front of my computer. I had never experienced this kind of T. It was nothing like the temporarily Ts I had experienced before regarding to noise. And the only thing that seemed to trigger them was either sitting in my car, or sitting in front my computer for prolonged periods of time (had a very bad posture).
If it was related to my jaw because of clenching my teeth, I would think I would have woken up in the morning with T or those headaches at least once, but that was never the case.
I do believe that the main cause of this is either something happening in the spine or in the neck, at least for me.
The jaw might be a cause or a subcause as well though.
Yesterday, before I went to bed I did something interesting. I looked back at how I was positioned in my car. I have some kind of "sport seats" that kinda pushes your shoulders outwards from your back. When I sat in front of my computer, my shoulders were kinda hanging forward and down. I started to pinch my neck muscles (the muscle at the top of your neck, that is stretching all the way from your neck to your shoulders) starting at my neck and working my way towards each shoulder.
Every now and then when I pinched it, my jaw suddenly started to tighten up and those weird headaches got really bad.
When I released, it went away within a few seconds to minutes. My T reacted a lof to this pinching as well. I also found a few trigger points / muscle knots in that area that really made my T scream. Thats when I started to believe maybe those muscles could be a cause to what Im experiencing as well.
Then I did an experiment. I always seem to get those weird headaches when I lay down (again with my shoulders in a very forward crunched position). I took two pillows and bended them double (so each pillow would be twice as thick), laid down on my stomach with my head turned to the right and put those pillows under each shoulder (the exact opposite shoulder position that I had in my car and at my computer). My shoulder blades were then in a somewhat higher position than my spine. And then something really funny started to happen. I got instant relief from those headaches, and the spots that was previously painful started to spasm. Not painful, but it was muscle contractions that I could not control. Like the stuff that someone might experience over your eye from time to time.
So when I altered my shoulder position, something did happen. I dont know if it was because of increased pressure on my spine (due to the muscles of my upper back), or if it had to do with the neck muscles being stretched in a way.
I had some diazepam before I went to sleep. Slept like a child, but when I woke up I was kinda positioned between my 2 mattresses as they had slipped away eachother, and my shoulders were back into this crunched forward position, and I woke up with screaming T. After I went up from bed, had a shower and moving a little around, my T has gone down.
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@Sound Wave could be interested in this info as well.
Yeah indeed, i don't know what to think of that theory too, would be hard to prove it though as it's in the brain, but it doesn't seem really logic imo, and heavily dependent on what kind of person you are mentally.
Yes that feeling of "fullness", some sort of weird pressure with an slight itch which radiates to the TMJ a bit. Is what i'm having too. Not so sure anymore to blame ET for that or muscles doing something they're not supposed to.
It does indeed sound like in your case it is indeed mostly neck related, and the jaw might just be another drop in the overly filled bucket with neck problems sort of speak. or maybe you're having a lot less stress those days than you did before? I do notice, and it was confirmed by my physiotherapist, that when i have stress i seemingly seem to not care quite fast mentally, but the stress builds up in my body, subconsciously tensing muscles, something i have indeed always done, and i notice that the loudness of the T when waking up, is frequently related to stress during the day, or the fact that i need to be somewhere very early etc... What you said about you sleeping in that wrong position, makes me think that might have something to do with my morning T as well.
Anyways i did have that myofascial trigger point treatment today, the physiotherapist performing them, which i saw for the first time today immediately noticed my bad posture, although i've been trying to correct that it takes some time before your mind gets it. She started feeling my neck shoulders and asking me to perform various stances etc to see whats wrong. She didn't even start the treatment and was just investigating, and already 2 cervical vertebras cracked/popped into place. Thereby confirming that on top of the jaw problems which indeed seem to be a certain cause in my case, i do wake up every morning with a relatively loud T which gets less during the day and spikes after eating, anyways on top of that it's also my neck causing problems, she pushed at some points in my neck and shoulders and jaw concerning the muscles which we're quite painful on my T side and not so much on the side with almost no T (unfortunately a minor T developed in my left ear as well since yesterday
, it's gone every now and then, but is displaying the same behavior as my other ear before onset.
@Mr. Cartman the same happened to you at some point if i'm correct? ). Anyways after that she started to relax those muscles in my neck etc... in a relative "soft" way, next time she will use needles, but this time she didnt. It was quite painful during treatment, but damn it felt good afterwards! I noticed i stepped out of her office more or less without T! It came back gradually after a few mins or so, but it is a sign that i'm onto something with those treatments! And my neck and all felt really light for some hours, i always thought there we're not really problems with my neck, but i suppose i was just so used to my neck muscles being tense that i didn't notice it was abnormal. Also, i did have a very bad spike of T 2hours ago, but in general it's less intense today, very nice
. She also explained some neck stretching movements, gonna try to find some sort of video about it, might come in handy for everyone in this thread.
As for those sit-ups indeed i did have those stinging headaches every time i did them, and they kept increasing in intensity the more sit-ups i did for every period of time without a period of rest. They always disappeared for 90% at least though when i was finished with my sit-ups. I did discuss this also today and showed how i did them to the physiotherapist, and i was indeed doing them wrong, putting way to much stress on my neck (muscles). I don't know what i was thinking but it was very stupid and stubborn of me to keep doing those sit-ups in that way for weeks until onset T!
I also discussed the sub-occipital stretch with that physio, and she said they might very well help until a certain degree, as your stretching very specific muscles only, but it does seem like its a collection of a lot of muscles in the neck area that are way to tense, so it certainly will help a bit at least.
Your experiment with pinching those muscles and the shoulders is interesting! It is certainly a combination of cervical vertebra and muscle problems imo, seems like we're all in a stage where, visually speaking it's just a bucket filled with neck+ jaw problems, which is spilling over to the hearing nerves (again with the fact that the neck and jaw nerves are closely located to the hearing nerve, and the brain misinterpretating the overload of signals from neck and jaw as partially hearing signals, a T and possibly that funny feeling in your ears.). I'm trying pinching them too right now, but it's painful above all else, but that might be because of physio treatment this morning. As for the shoulders, now i'm thinking of it putting them as far backwards as possible without paining yourself, is something i've always done every once in a while, it is very relaxing for those muscles, and if you look at it sitting behind the pc and driving are indeed 2 of the things in which your shoulders are very much placed forward, can't be very good indeed doing that for a long time, doing the opposite thing might at least fix the problems with those muscles a bit, keep them more in "balance".
@Sjtof That temporarily ringing your speaking of is something i'm experiencing as well once every few days or so, keeps on a few secs to a few mins, and once for a few hours, came on in the evening and kept going until i fell asleep.
Aside from that yesterday i was very tired and had the worst headaches and neck pains and T, until i layed down to sleep, i recall this has happened a few times before when i was very tired too, without the T it was then, back before onset, i have no idea where to fit these 2 things in the picture though.
Aside from that we're definitely thinking in the right direction, that's great!
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that is why my osteopath keeps pulling my toes because I'm as stiff as a tree mehh
