University of Minnesota Tinnitus Research with Acoustic and Body Stimulation

[Manny]

What do you mean?

You said "damn, not what I wanted to hear", so I said I feel like that all the time - referring to my tinnitus. It was a joke.

 

[GregCA]

I have white noise as tinnitus, is that closer to 13 kHz or 1 kHz? And I also have the re-active tinnitus where the tinnitus goes up with sound, although the re-active part is lessening I think.

I'm afraid your question shows you are confused about what white noise is (nothing wrong with that). It's not related to a frequency since it's a sound that has the same energy density across the whole frequency spectrum. Perhaps you do not have white noise as tinnitus, but some kind of narrowband noise around a given frequency. The best way to figure it out is to play with a pure tone generator and try to approximate what you hear with a pure tone. There's a very big difference between 1 kHz and 13 kHz: if you try what I suggest above you will notice how it's virtually impossible to confuse one with the other.

Good luck.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

You said "damn, not what I wanted to hear", so I said I feel like that all the time - referring to my tinnitus. It was a joke.

Oh, now I get it Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Mathew Gould]

I'm afraid your question shows you are confused about what white noise is (nothing wrong with that). It's not related to a frequency since it's a sound that has the same energy density across the whole frequency spectrum. Perhaps you do not have white noise as tinnitus, but some kind of narrowband noise around a given frequency. The best way to figure it out is to play with a pure tone generator and try to approximate what you hear with a pure tone. There's a very big difference between 1 kHz and 13 kHz: if you try what I suggest above you will notice how it's virtually impossible to confuse one with the other.

Good luck.

Ok I will try to match the tone and get back to you in a few days when my tinnitus is louder... I had my night splint loosened too much and I have had tinnitus basically constant now instead of having it only 60% of the time... Although since my splint was loosened my overall tinnitus has seemed to go down very slightly.. You think if I got my splint adjusted 100% correctly my tinnitus would go away?? Is there any diagnostics (X-rays, MRI's) to show my jaw or whatever would be in a perfect grove, meaning my tinnitus would be at its lowest possible??

 

[Felix Dujardin]

For those who may be interested, here is a 10db difference on a signal I made :

http://picosong.com/w5YjN/

 

[parsky]

For those who may be interested, here is a 10db difference on a signal I made :

http://picosong.com/w5YjN/

Doesn't sound like much when you listen to it at full volume, but when you play it at a low volume you can definitely see how 10db could push a lot of people's T into the background of their hearing.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

For those who may be interested, here is a 10db difference on a signal I made :

http://picosong.com/w5YjN/

Great! hrmm. I didnt think the difference was that significant. Certainly not half the volume.

 

[parsky]

Great! hrmm. I didnt think the difference was that significant. Certainly not half the volume.

This site has tones you can play at 10db intervals

https://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_hearingtestaudiogram.php

 

[TheDanishGirl]

This site has tones you can play at 10db intervals

https://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_hearingtestaudiogram.php

It was even worse with those. I could hardly tell a difference between 70 db and 60 db, or 60 db and 50 db.

Makes me think 10 db is not that much afterall.

 

[threefirefour]

It was even worse with those. I could hardly tell a difference between 70 db and 60 db, or 60 db and 50 db.

Makes me think 10 db is not that much afterall.

It's actually a bit louder than I expected. My tinnitus is below the 20dB audio when I adjusted the computer volume.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

It's actually a bit louder than I expected. My tinnitus is below the 20dB audio when I adjusted the computer volume.

I am not sure I calibrated properly, but I adjusted the volume to 44/100 on my computer, and I could not hear any of the sounds under 30 dB. Only at 30-40 dB did they become audible to me, and at that volume they were still very faint…. only the 8,000 Hz tone was quite noticeable.

Anyways my tinnitus is of a MUCH higher frequency than 8,000 Hz.

 

[Benoves]

For those who may be interested, here is a 10db difference on a signal I made :

http://picosong.com/w5YjN/

If this is true, that's quite impressive to me. It makes a huge difference on my iPhone. If they can do this with my tinnitus I will habituate pretty fast I guess. Let's keep them going! I can't wait.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

If this is true, that's quite impressive to me. It makes a huge difference on my iPhone. If they can do this with my tinnitus I will habituate pretty fast I guess. Let's keep them going! I can't wait.

Just tried it on my phone and on there the difference was very noticable and a huge difference, but on my computer there was hardly any difference in perceived loudness. I hope my phone is more correct, lol

 

[Mathew Gould]

Just tried it on my phone and on there the difference was very noticable and a huge difference, but on my computer there was hardly any difference in perceived loudness. I hope my phone is more correct, lol

You must have crap computer speakers. I could tell a big difference in the 10 dB's.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

You must have crap computer speakers. I could tell a big difference in the 10 dB's.

I have a cheap laptop so yeah…..probably

But my phone is a fairly cheap one too, with a broken speaker even (it has 2 speaker outputs in the bottom but only one works after I accidently dropped in on the floor) and still, on that one, the difference was very noticable.

 

[Benoves]

@kelpiemsp do you have any updates? Thank you

 

[threefirefour]

@kelpiemsp do you have any updates? Thank you

idk I'm kind of worried. He hasn't updated in a while.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

idk I'm kind of worried. He hasn't updated in a while.

He is busy living life with 10-15 db lower T.

At least, that's what I choose to believe

 

[noitseuq]

He is busy living life with 10-15 db lower T.

At least, that's what I choose to believe

Or who knows maybe he's bad at math and turned to be 30db lower t...

 

[kelpiemsp]

I'm here, busy with some life struggles outside of Tinnitus unfortunately. My wife's sister was killed by drunk driver and We travelled back to pay our respects.

I am at the stage where we are working with different timings. So far the 15 offset was my best. I learned that is was plus 15, and I had thought previously it was a negative 15. Anyways, my T is becoming less intrusiveness and definitely, atleast in my case, the further I get in the trial the more I begin to feel an accumulative effect. I also went to several areas and had no spike. For example the state fair had a beer tent and they were blasting music... it was too loud. I thought about complaining (it was 110 dB) but I don't buy the whole damaged ears are compromised theory. I just made sure to not be in longer than a few minutes and not stress.

I am only masking a few nights per week at the moment which is great. But life has been to exhausting to think about T.

I have another session this Friday though!

Sorry for the delay.

 

[Manny]

I'm here, busy with some life struggles outside of Tinnitus unfortunately. My wife's sister was killed by drunk driver and We travelled back to pay our respects.

I am at the stage where we are working with different timings. So far the 15 offset was my best. I learned that is was plus 15, and I had thought previously it was a negative 15. Anyways, my T is becoming less intrusiveness and definitely, atleast in my case, the further I get in the trial the more I begin to feel an accumulative effect. I also went to several areas and had no spike. For example the state fair had a beer tent and they were blasting music... it was too loud. I thought about complaining (it was 110 dB) but I don't buy the whole damaged ears are compromised theory. I just made sure to not be in longer than a few minutes and not stress.

I am only masking a few nights per week at the moment which is great. But life has been to exhausting to think about T.

I have another session this Friday though!

Sorry for the delay.

Thanks for the update.
Sorry for your and your family's loss.

 

[Fatih]

i have 2 different sounds on my fucking tinnitus and loud level is 70db
I gave everything for 10 db

 

[JRC1]

Dear kelpiemsp, I am sorry for your loss and thank u for the update. If you are getting significant benefit from the treatment, aren't you only getting the treatment every week or so? Do you think the benefit would be even greater if you were getting the treatment every day?

 

[Mystery Reader]

@kelpiemsp

Condolences on your loss, kelpiemsp. My best to you and your family.

Mystery Reader

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I'm here, busy with some life struggles outside of Tinnitus unfortunately. My wife's sister was killed by drunk driver and We travelled back to pay our respects.

I am at the stage where we are working with different timings. So far the 15 offset was my best. I learned that is was plus 15, and I had thought previously it was a negative 15. Anyways, my T is becoming less intrusiveness and definitely, atleast in my case, the further I get in the trial the more I begin to feel an accumulative effect. I also went to several areas and had no spike. For example the state fair had a beer tent and they were blasting music... it was too loud. I thought about complaining (it was 110 dB) but I don't buy the whole damaged ears are compromised theory. I just made sure to not be in longer than a few minutes and not stress.

I am only masking a few nights per week at the moment which is great. But life has been to exhausting to think about T.

I have another session this Friday though!

Sorry for the delay.

Now I feel somewhat bad about my post. Sorry if it hurt you in any way

Condolences to you are your family. What a horrible thing to go trough!.

You are a top human being for updating us even during such tragedy. thanks for that.

 

[threefirefour]

I'm here, busy with some life struggles outside of Tinnitus unfortunately. My wife's sister was killed by drunk driver and We travelled back to pay our respects.

I am at the stage where we are working with different timings. So far the 15 offset was my best. I learned that is was plus 15, and I had thought previously it was a negative 15. Anyways, my T is becoming less intrusiveness and definitely, atleast in my case, the further I get in the trial the more I begin to feel an accumulative effect. I also went to several areas and had no spike. For example the state fair had a beer tent and they were blasting music... it was too loud. I thought about complaining (it was 110 dB) but I don't buy the whole damaged ears are compromised theory. I just made sure to not be in longer than a few minutes and not stress.

I am only masking a few nights per week at the moment which is great. But life has been to exhausting to think about T.

I have another session this Friday though!

Sorry for the delay.

Sorry about your sister that must be terrible. If your family is going through this whole process than by all means please take your time.

 

[Joe Bananas]

So this is not intended for people with hearing loss?

 

[GregCA]

So this is not intended for people with hearing loss?

It depends if your hearing loss triggers the same maladaptive plasticity that this method works on undoing. This could cover quite a few cases of hearing loss actually.

 

[kelpiemsp]

You also have to be able to hear the sound so there's that. Signal timing relies on hearing and the stimulus.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I am still wondering if us with hyperacusis could get this treatment.

Seeing as my hyperacusis is on the milder side, I would actually take the risk of potentially worsening my H if I could get relief from my T. My T still brings me far more distress then the H. Sometimes i forget I have H.