What Happened to Bam Who Ended in a Psych Ward?

[Lane]

Buying myself a deadly and illegal escape route felt empowering and like a small victory in that sense.

Hey @Bam -- Your sentiments reminded me of a post I made almost four years ago, which was made on a thread discussing suicide and its many aspects. It would seem my perspectives on assisted suicide are similar to yours. But the main reason I'm copying and pasting that post here is to give you some insight into how positive it's been for the people of Oregon to have a "choice" in whether or not to continue with their lives. Thanks for your continuing posts Bam-- Always wishing you the best!

First posted online on April, 2015

I live in Oregon, which passed the first physician assisted suicide statute in the U.S.–and which I wholeheartedly supported. It barely passed the first time around, and opponents of it managed to get it back on the ballot again to try to repeal it. With the extra time and discussion between the first and second votes, it easily passed the second time around with about 60% of the vote.

The stipulations are rather stringent [two doctors need to certify you have six months or less to live]. I've long thought there should be more flexibility because it excludes a large segment of the population whose lives are deteriorating rapidly and/or experiencing almost unimaginable distress and agony. Shouldn't it be their decision as to when they feel they can no longer tolerate their suffering anymore, instead of the state?

One major finding from monitoring this statute for the past 20 years or so, is that only about a third who get the prescriptions to end their lives actually use it. And virtually everyone who got the prescription, whether or not they ever used it, stressed how much it significantly improved the quality of their lives, just KNOWING they were now able to control their circumstances at the end of their lives.

I'm very interested in the discussion now taking place in Canada regarding nationwide rules on physician assisted suicide. It appears it's going to end up being much more flexible than Oregon's, and as far as I'm concerned, the more flexibility it allows, the better. I fully support people having control over their own destiny during times of great health challenges, and don't feel anybody else has the right to judge or interfere in their decisions. Apparently, about 86% of Canada's population feels the same way. — Here's a video clip from PBS which documents the evolving situation in Canada. One of the criteria being dicussed is whether a patient has "a grevous and irremediable medical condition".

Canada grapples with how to govern a patient's right to die

In March, Canada's Supreme Court ruled unanimously that all Canadians have a constitutional right to have doctors help them die. Special correspondent John Larson reports from British Columbia on how doctors, patients and politicians are grappling with how to set rules and eligibility in the next year.

 

[Bam]

Hey @Bam -- Your sentiments reminded me of a post I made almost four years ago, which was made on a thread discussing suicide and its many aspects. It would seem my perspectives on assisted suicide are similar to yours. But the main reason I'm copying and pasting that post here is to give you some insight into how positive it's been for the people of Oregon to have a "choice" in whether or not to continue with their lives. Thanks for your continuing posts Bam-- Always wishing you the best!

First posted online on April, 2015

I live in Oregon, which passed the first physician assisted suicide statute in the U.S.–and which I wholeheartedly supported. It barely passed the first time around, and opponents of it managed to get it back on the ballot again to try to repeal it. With the extra time and discussion between the first and second votes, it easily passed the second time around with about 60% of the vote.

The stipulations are rather stringent [two doctors need to certify you have six months or less to live]. I've long thought there should be more flexibility because it excludes a large segment of the population whose lives are deteriorating rapidly and/or experiencing almost unimaginable distress and agony. Shouldn't it be their decision as to when they feel they can no longer tolerate their suffering anymore, instead of the state?

One major finding from monitoring this statute for the past 20 years or so, is that only about a third who get the prescriptions to end their lives actually use it. And virtually everyone who got the prescription, whether or not they ever used it, stressed how much it significantly improved the quality of their lives, just KNOWING they were now able to control their circumstances at the end of their lives.

I'm very interested in the discussion now taking place in Canada regarding nationwide rules on physician assisted suicide. It appears it's going to end up being much more flexible than Oregon's, and as far as I'm concerned, the more flexibility it allows, the better. I fully support people having control over their own destiny during times of great health challenges, and don't feel anybody else has the right to judge or interfere in their decisions. Apparently, about 86% of Canada's population feels the same way. — Here's a video clip from PBS which documents the evolving situation in Canada. One of the criteria being dicussed is whether a patient has "a grevous and irremediable medical condition".

Canada grapples with how to govern a patient's right to die

In March, Canada's Supreme Court ruled unanimously that all Canadians have a constitutional right to have doctors help them die. Special correspondent John Larson reports from British Columbia on how doctors, patients and politicians are grappling with how to set rules and eligibility in the next year.

Thanks Lane. Yes I do believe the choice is a powerful ally in survival. But it won't save us from the torment and frustration of this condition being woefully overlooked and underestimated by the very people that support euthanasia for all manner of lesser evils.

Only 3 days ago a psychiatrist doing an assessment shook me by the hand and said, 'look on the bright side. You didn't lose a leg.' .......Needless to say i nearly choked on my own outrage and swiftly informed him that I would sever my own spinal cord with his fountain pen for silence.

I've said it countless times but I blame the BTA and ATA that we still live in a world where chronic head noise is seen as some sort of 'lucky escape' compared to losing a limb by a fucking psychiatric professional of all people!

 

[Jazzer]

Dear @Bam
I understand every word.
I wish we could all be well,
but is there any point to wishing?
Love
Dave x
(Who was once a Jazzer.)

 

[Manny]

I've resigned myself to neuormod being last chance saloon Vic. If I don't see some relief before the year is out I really can't see the point of going on and on and on. Sure I get some moments where I feel okayish. But I'm not happy. I know we say it over and over but there's no joy in a life with constant tinnitus. I don't care what anyone else thinks or says. Everyday it's right there screaming in your face before you even get out of bed. It destroys your day before it even begins. The huge sadness is i do think we will have a full cure within 10 or 15 years but by that point the best and most productive years of my life will be gone and I can foresee only bitterness at what I endured and was taken from me in the prime of my life only to have a cure come far too late. It's all very distresssing and tragic...... I know you understand.xx

Bam ya hit the nail on the tinitus-filled head...like every frickin time. Love brother.

 

[Bam]

Bam ya hit the nail on the tinitus-filled head...like every frickin time. Love brother.

We're still in the fight brother. I think the tinnitus game, like many others in life, is about knowing when to cut your losses. And right now it's worth getting up each day and fighting. It's brutal, it's lonely, it's desperate. But we have a slither of hope amid the gloom.

Stay strong Manny. You could have this shit fixed while still in your twenties mate. And you will be the most wonderful compassionate soul anyone could ever meet going forward.

 

[Bam]

Dear @Bam
I understand every word.
I wish we could all be well,
but is there any point to wishing?
Love
Dave x
(Who was once a Jazzer.)

Wishing.....dreaming, of a miracle is all that keeps me going Jazzer. You cannot take everything from a person and expect them to keep going without a dream. In a world obsessed with 'living in the moment' what do we do when our present moment is pure torture? .......We dream of a future where we are released from this hell. We imagine the beauty of silence through the screaming noise. We dream of serenity. Of being factory reset to our original state.

Those dreams are all I have left.

 

[Jazzer]

Those dreams are all I have left.

'I need to share those dreams Bam......x'

Dave x

 

[Bam]

@Jazzer

Everyone of us that has felt the true despair of this condition shares those dreams my friend. We are united in our suffering..... but we are also united in courage and hope.xx

 

[Vicki14]

I've resigned myself to neuormod being last chance saloon Vic. If I don't see some relief before the year is out I really can't see the point of going on and on and on. Sure I get some moments where I feel okayish. But I'm not happy. I know we say it over and over but there's no joy in a life with constant tinnitus. I don't care what anyone else thinks or says. Everyday it's right there screaming in your face before you even get out of bed. It destroys your day before it even begins. The huge sadness is i do think we will have a full cure within 10 or 15 years but by that point the best and most productive years of my life will be gone and I can foresee only bitterness at what I endured and was taken from me in the prime of my life only to have a cure come far too late. It's all very distresssing and tragic...... I know you understand.xx

@Bam

I absolutely understand. Sadly. Your feelings and thoughts resonate with me so much and I just feel your suffering so terribly. I hope to god that you don't decide enough is enough but I completely get your frustration and despair at this incessant torture. Truly do. I totally get what your saying about the best years of your life etc but we've gotta take a day at a time with this. Like you, I'll never be truly accepting of this sub standard existence but we've no bloody choice and for sure, you'd definitely be missed here so mute button better get their shifty on!!! Hang in there... your definitely not alone, although it really feels like it! Xx

 

[OnceUponaTime]

I've collected stories of it going away or going right down after longer than the two year mark. PM me if you want them

Can you pm me the stories? Thanx.
Once

Good to hear from you @Bam .

 

[Vicki14]

Needless to say i nearly choked on my own outrage and swiftly informed him that I would sever my own spinal cord with his fountain pen for silence.

Oh Bam, you really have a way with your words!

 

[Vicki14]

@Bam

What's your thoughts on Mute Button? Do you think it's gonna be hopeful? x

 

[Bam]

@Bam

What's your thoughts on Mute Button? Do you think it's gonna be hopeful? x

I really don't know Vic. I doubt many of us will attain silence but we might get a nice reduction or a softer tone?!

I'm going to buy it. I'm going to try and stay really positive while using it. Only time will tell.

 

[Vicki14]

I'm going to buy it. I'm going to try and stay really positive while using it. Only time will tell.

I so hope this is going to be the real
Deal B.... and no trt crap. Good on you for your positivity! There has to be some reason to all this suffering. God, can you imagine that blissful day of silence! It'll be like winning one million lotteries!!!!!! x

 

[OnceUponaTime]

Wishing.....dreaming, of a miracle is all that keeps me going Jazzer. You cannot take everything from a person and expect them to keep going without a dream. In a world obsessed with 'living in the moment' what do we do when our present moment is pure torture? .......We dream of a future where we are released from this hell. We imagine the beauty of silence through the screaming noise. We dream of serenity. Of being factory reset to our original state.

Those dreams are all I have left.

Me too. Stay strong Bam. Hug,
Once