MemberI've been wondering what religions the people of tinnitustalk follow. I think we can finally put to rest the age old question of what religion is more likely to give you ear problems :^)
What Religion Are You?
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Some atheists treat it like it is, like that one atheist church in Texas. Realistically yeah you're correct just added it for simplicity.Not to nitpick, nor I daresay be serious, but atheism is not a religion.
It's tricky, with all the definitions and different interpretations. Rather than Atheism, I would have included a choice of "None" on the list.
Too vague. There's a lot of people who are pretty ardent on atheism, but I put agnostic/unaffiliated for that category.
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Those who are gay and those who just listen to too much metal musicYou need to separate Theistic Satanism from Atheistic (LaVeyan) Satanism!
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It is my understanding that a Theistic Satanist worships Satan, whereas a LaVeyan Satanist worships himself. So one's birthday is a religious holiday.
Yeah you're right. Studied it to see if it was a serious edgy as it sounded. Ironically it's a better religion than Christianity, Islam, or any other mainstream religion.
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You think Christianity is Marxist you should check out mazdakism (split from Zoroastrianism). That's basically communism.
The humorist/raconteur Jean Shepherd (A Christmas Story), who had a longstanding radio program in NYC, once recounted that when he first went in the Army, in WWII, during the initial processing, when he was asked to name his religion, he replied, "Druid". The sergeant asked for the spelling, and dutifully wrote it down.
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Np. That's something I thought was cool. Other religious movements I thought were interesting:
Manichaeism: combined some religions like Christianity and Buddhism. Cool with free love.
Pythagorean cult: believed numbers were sacred, extremely influential to math.
Charvaka: earliest atheistic movement. Went around trying to disprove the existence of gods in 600 B.C
Raelianism: just because it's recent.
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I would say Mormonism but it's too out there for me to really care about. Not in a good way.
Most people have not, but he is most famous for writing, and narrating, the film, A Christmas Story, which is shown on TV often during the holiday season.
Oh Heeeeeeeell nooooooooo
The applied communism we have seen in history was facist but fundamentally the Marx books wasn't.
Human nature destroyed the meaning of Marxism
Marxism basically just means that the workers need to posess the means of production instead of private corporates
Yeah Marxism is better. Has a lot of Jesus' message without the religious topsoil, the idpol, and overall religious cuckery.
The "Jesus was a communist" meme I'm pretty sure comes from Engels. From a marxist perspective it doesn't make much sense because marxism is also anti religious, but agrees with a lot on christianity. So somehow, Christianity is both contradictory, yet redundant from a marxist perspective.
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When that happen, standard of living will fall compared to countries with market-based economies, so you need to have a police state to keep people from defecting to those other countries and from revolting in order to live in a country that is efficient.
In other words, Marxism is a philosophy that needs either a change in human nature or unlimited and abundant resources, or a dictatorship for it to be implemented. We know that the first two will never happen (the Soviets were unable to change human nature one bit and they were at it for over 70 years).
Communism is communism. Your statement is as valid as saying that Fascism ended up adopting Communist tactics. In fact, my version is more accurate because Soviets Were pioneers as far as concentration camps and mass extermination (e.g., Holodomor) are concerned, and National Socialists in Germany had taken those Communist invention and used them to kill a much smaller number of people (Communists are responsible for deaths of ove 100 million people). So Communists were First, they killed More, AND they have been a much more significant political force throughout the 20th and thus far the 21st century (compared to what you refer to as Fascism that was significant only for 12 years between 1933 and 1945). With this in mind, who could disagree that it should be "Fascists had adopted Communist methods" and not "applied communism was fascist"?
Than what?
Oli was talking about Marxism and christianity comparing and contrasting, showing that they're not an evolution of one/another. In terms of marxist values though, marxism is better on the virtue that it's marxism. Christianity does have a lot of similarities but they're not too compatable. Just similar.
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No religion. In fact here in Western Europe very few people are still religious besides the Islam population.
>TFW live in extremely christian america.
Western Europe is more Apathetic I think, which is definitely the best option they could follow.
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Christianity and Marxism celebrate the weak, while practicing self-deceit (e.g., ignoring human nature and other realities). In both a theocracy and a Marxist state people occupy themselves with pipe dreams (the second coming, life after death, the future transition of society to communism) that are never materialized. Both criminalize human nature. Both exploit human desire (at least desire of those suffering from arrested development) to "be good".
I can understand better your first statement with your explanation and view of communism but there is just one thing I don't agree on other than communism never was fully implemented like it shoulded and that it's now possible with the context of new efficient technologies now stop by corporations and profits (i.e. fossil fuel lobbying)
P.S. I have no offense for you and your opinions and I respect them (the tone is never really understood with the internet barrier). I just enjoy those debates
Also excuse my grammar if I did mistakes, english isn't my first langage
I think it's in the contrary capitalism that needs unlimited and abundant resources especially because of the praise of private ownership (individually), perpetual waste and programed obsolescence. Capitalism have been wonderfull for the grow of technology and progress but we are facing a wall right now. I think we need to implement a democratic (real one not by procuration) socialist state with ressource based economy because we can't continue our progress exponentially with limited ressources. I think Marxism can be still relevant today because of these conditions. We need to fight unfair social class, corporates monopole, power and selfishness. We are just destroying ourselve and the planet at this point.
Weaks are those who are born in wealth with their power and selfishness, not those who are fighting at the end of the ladder for survival...
It's not intellectually honest to compare unmaterial spiritual bullshit with something that can actually be implemented and should for the sake of human preservation
P.S. I have no offense for you and your opinions and I respect them (the tone is never really understood with the internet barrier). I just enjoy those debates
Also excuse my grammar if I did mistakes, english isn't my first langage
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It had been tried throughout the 20th century, in countries all over the world (in Africa, Asia, Europe, and South America). It always had resulted in destruction of resources and tremendous human misery, while failing to achieve its stated goals. This is a feature, not a bug.
Humans need incentives in order to work. The market provides the profit motive. Marxism replaces this with the "sacrifice for the sake of the community" motive. Most people won't work their whole lives with this being their motive. You are right - new technologies CAN make Marxism work (in the sense that it has a chance not to collapse, not in the sense that it can achieve a prosperous utopia). Surveillance technology that would make a rebellion impossible already exists. This technology can also be used to force people to work. Past socialist systems could not ensure that people were not shirking their responsibilities. With these new technologies, people can be monitored closely, and tortured/punished when caught shirking. This is certainly something that can be done now (or that could soon be feasible), that wasn't possible earlier.
This monitoring will probably be impossible to apply to creative pursuits like inventing new technologies, so that society will still be destined to poverty (relative to what could have been achieved in a market-based economy).
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