Lots of discussion, some heated about the benefit of TRT and even a debate as to whether TRT is a bonafide cure or by stark contrast, pure fallacy.
I will start discussion with my post below from another thread. Please share your views on the subject including your personal experience.
Bill, I look forward to your comments....
My opening salvo:
I don't know anybody who believes TRT is a complete cure to either hyperacusis or tinnitus. Perhaps there are some that believe this. I do as I have written before believe the brain however can be retrained in the face of injured hearing apparatus which degrades hearing. An analog is someone without T or H who is hearing impaired. T and H I believe are rooted in neuropathy...perhaps the result of hardware degradation and modifying the signal to the brain...or simply degradation to nerve function as part of a larger neuropathy. A cure of course is different than a directionally correct therapy that does help a subset with this disorder. That is an important distinction. Two camps exist and I believe it can be explained even tho I know nothing of H Network or the BS censorship there to promote a given position on the veracity of TRT.
There seems to be divide on this forum as well. I want to emphasize...its ok to disagree. People disagree about everything from politics to science...no doubt including the countless researching for a cure to tinnitus today. If you get 100 scientists in a room there won't be unanimity. I know because I have been in such a room. Pre dating the internet, if you want proof, read about Einstein's life and 'race' to discover relativity against his arch competitor the pre-eminent mathematician of his time. Or Edison who lied about the benefits of DC versus AC...AC ultimately winning out to power the grid in major cities throughout the world. Scholars have their beliefs and even self agendas which is egregious and somewhat analogous to censorship on message forums today. One positive, is this forum lets us play with limited censorship. A credit to the moderation here. Yes, things can get out of hand like they did the other day and its always regrettable and many times seems to tie into the divide about TRT.
A word about TRT as the holy grail or not and two dug in camps that don't agree. Some points I believe relevant:
- People have different type of T. This is somewhat known but further exposed by the responses to my Vacuum Sound therapy post. Look at the responses. People responded completely the opposite...in fact a 50/50 split of vacuum sound therapy...for half, it improved their T...for the other half...it makes it worse. And I am sure with a large sample size, some would be unaffected as well.
- Placebo, emotion and reality. Its a given that T is tied to a person's emotional state...certainly most of us. Of course chicken and the egg...which came first. But still an agitated person I believe tends to struggle more with tinnitus as an agitated person does for example with neuropathy...greater nerve excitement when the brain is in this state. This is something we know intrinsically. Ever have to do something that made you really nervous? The nervous system is under assault at this time. Belief in something by contrast can manifest positive physiological change. So whether people agree with the physics of TRT in terms of distracting the brain away from tinnitus specific frequencies, a person's belief that sound therapy works, may manifest an improvement in T because a 'person believes it will'.
So possible, camps are divided because experiences vary greatly...like the vacuum cleaner response. We are not the same in spite of all being joined at the hip with this scourge called tinnitus. Tinnitus is heterogeneous, not homogenous as we are reminded so often by reading anecdotal accounts. TRT may not work for everybody. In fact, I am sure it doesn't...or even the volume or sound signature is missed to be effective. But to throw TRT under the bus is equally wrong and it exists for a reason even though it may not work for you. Of course it isn't a cure. It is a therapy that works for some and doesn't work for others...just like running the vacuum.
Haters are gonna hate. People dig in based upon peering through the lens of their personal experience which forges a given person's belief and many times agenda. The truth is generally in the middle.
I believe we all agree on one thing, censorship is despicable. I am glad, I never found the forum you speak of.
Lastly, I want to wish all of us well even as we debate what methods work best to cope with this challenge.
I will start discussion with my post below from another thread. Please share your views on the subject including your personal experience.
Bill, I look forward to your comments....
My opening salvo:
I don't know anybody who believes TRT is a complete cure to either hyperacusis or tinnitus. Perhaps there are some that believe this. I do as I have written before believe the brain however can be retrained in the face of injured hearing apparatus which degrades hearing. An analog is someone without T or H who is hearing impaired. T and H I believe are rooted in neuropathy...perhaps the result of hardware degradation and modifying the signal to the brain...or simply degradation to nerve function as part of a larger neuropathy. A cure of course is different than a directionally correct therapy that does help a subset with this disorder. That is an important distinction. Two camps exist and I believe it can be explained even tho I know nothing of H Network or the BS censorship there to promote a given position on the veracity of TRT.
There seems to be divide on this forum as well. I want to emphasize...its ok to disagree. People disagree about everything from politics to science...no doubt including the countless researching for a cure to tinnitus today. If you get 100 scientists in a room there won't be unanimity. I know because I have been in such a room. Pre dating the internet, if you want proof, read about Einstein's life and 'race' to discover relativity against his arch competitor the pre-eminent mathematician of his time. Or Edison who lied about the benefits of DC versus AC...AC ultimately winning out to power the grid in major cities throughout the world. Scholars have their beliefs and even self agendas which is egregious and somewhat analogous to censorship on message forums today. One positive, is this forum lets us play with limited censorship. A credit to the moderation here. Yes, things can get out of hand like they did the other day and its always regrettable and many times seems to tie into the divide about TRT.
A word about TRT as the holy grail or not and two dug in camps that don't agree. Some points I believe relevant:
- People have different type of T. This is somewhat known but further exposed by the responses to my Vacuum Sound therapy post. Look at the responses. People responded completely the opposite...in fact a 50/50 split of vacuum sound therapy...for half, it improved their T...for the other half...it makes it worse. And I am sure with a large sample size, some would be unaffected as well.
- Placebo, emotion and reality. Its a given that T is tied to a person's emotional state...certainly most of us. Of course chicken and the egg...which came first. But still an agitated person I believe tends to struggle more with tinnitus as an agitated person does for example with neuropathy...greater nerve excitement when the brain is in this state. This is something we know intrinsically. Ever have to do something that made you really nervous? The nervous system is under assault at this time. Belief in something by contrast can manifest positive physiological change. So whether people agree with the physics of TRT in terms of distracting the brain away from tinnitus specific frequencies, a person's belief that sound therapy works, may manifest an improvement in T because a 'person believes it will'.
So possible, camps are divided because experiences vary greatly...like the vacuum cleaner response. We are not the same in spite of all being joined at the hip with this scourge called tinnitus. Tinnitus is heterogeneous, not homogenous as we are reminded so often by reading anecdotal accounts. TRT may not work for everybody. In fact, I am sure it doesn't...or even the volume or sound signature is missed to be effective. But to throw TRT under the bus is equally wrong and it exists for a reason even though it may not work for you. Of course it isn't a cure. It is a therapy that works for some and doesn't work for others...just like running the vacuum.
Haters are gonna hate. People dig in based upon peering through the lens of their personal experience which forges a given person's belief and many times agenda. The truth is generally in the middle.
I believe we all agree on one thing, censorship is despicable. I am glad, I never found the forum you speak of.
Lastly, I want to wish all of us well even as we debate what methods work best to cope with this challenge.