Your Thyroid Can Make Your Ears Ring!

[mrdude1234]

@dboy thank you again, are you also having similar bizarre symptoms? Did you get any testing for the mercury?

@Chelles how long have you been having your symptoms? Any luck at all getting anything close to a diagnosis? My doctor said she thinks it is bppv or vestibular neuritis because she conducted an eye test and saw my left eye flicker slightly. I'm still not convinced though.

 

[Chelles]

@mrdude1234 nope not anywhere close yet but I do have muscle spasms all over my body so maybe it's more complex.

 

[mrdude1234]

@Chelles how long have you had your symptoms? I've had muscle spasms too. I've considered that my issue could be some kind of spinal or neck problem or malformation.

 

[Chelles]

@mrdude1234 almost a year.

 

[mrdude1234]

@Chelles

have you seen any neurologist/ENT? are your symptoms having a major effect on your life? blood tests/mri/CT scans done?

I've considered lyme disease, MS, fibromyalgia, vestibular neuritis, BPPV, chiari malformation, sinus issues, candida and mercury poisoning as potential causes but its hard to tell for sure.

 

[dboy]

@dboy thank you again, are you also having similar bizarre symptoms? Did you get any testing for the mercury?

No problem. I have suffered for years with arthritis, psoriasis, fatigue, mild depression (which has been much worse since my t got bad however) as well as symptoms like tingling sensations in my feet, insomnia, poor coordination, loss of memory, etc. Arthritis & psoriasis are sometimes linked to 'leaky gut' which is believed to be often caused by candida penetrating the gut lining. And candida overgrowth is apparently greatly encouraged by the presence of mercury in the gut, since the mercury suppresses your normal healthy gut bacteria. That's the theory, although this is not currently fully endorsed by mainstream medicine.

I had a DMSA mercury provocation test done by Biolab in the UK. This involves measuring urine mercury levels before and after taking a dose of DMSA, which draws mercury out of storage in your body tissues. The idea is that if the level of mercury in your urine increases by a factor of 2 (doubles) then you are considered to have significant mercury stored in your body tissues. My test was somewhat confusing: the level of mercury increased by just under that threshold... it was something like 197% of the original level! The overall levels were not massive either, but then I only had 5 mercury fillings and I haven't eaten fish for something like 27 years, being a committed veggie. So my results were somewhat ambiguous. After much consideration I decided to go ahead with filling removal on the basis that swallowing small amounts of mercury in my saliva could still be causing gut dysbiosis - suppressing my good bacteria and allowing candida to flourish - even if I was not storing massive amounts of it in my body tissues.

I hope this info is useful. This is not currently mainstream medicine, but at the same time it is not the wackiest fringes of alternative health either. There are studies supporting most of these ideas. I am personally 100% convinced that there is no way mercury should be put inside anyone's body. Where we each go from there if it already has been is a personal decision. Good luck.

P.S. In order to stay on topic, mercury is also bad news for your thyroid:

http://www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/articles/the-impact-of-mercury-on-thyroid-health/

http://www.environmentalhealthnews..../01/2012-0320-mercury-linked-thyroid-antibody

 

[Chelles]

@mrdude1234 I've had cat scans, X-rays and blood work done all came back normal.

 

[mrdude1234]

@dboy very interesting, did your symptoms come out of nowhere or gradually develop?

I'm sure I have one metallic amalgam in my mouth, but my other fillings seem to be white in colour. I may have had prior metallic fillings that were drilled out and replaced but I'm not sure... I live in Australia and I don't know if there is a facility here to get the testing done but I'd really like to find out if that could be causing my problems. I've also read that root canals can also cause problems, I've had one done in 2012.

Oddly enough, the past few months I've been getting regular penile thrush which has never happened before, so there could be some kind of Candida link. I just really hope that I'll be able to get better at some stage.

I've seen a doctor who is lyme literate but also deals with issues like chronic fatigue and other unpopular ailments. Only problem my next appointment with him is in October.

If you ever get to the bottom of your problems let me know, and I'll do likewise, because I'm going to be continually exploring possibilities and figuring out ways to get better.

 

[dboy]

dboy very interesting, did your symptoms come out of nowhere or gradually develop?

Arthritis came out of nowhere when I was about 27. The other things have gradually built up.

I'm sure I have one metallic amalgam in my mouth, but my other fillings seem to be white in colour

Just one amalgam is not a lot. It perhaps makes it seem less likely that is the problem, but then is also easier and cheaper to get removed just in case.

I've also read that root canals can also cause problems, I've had one done in 2012.

Yes, I never knew I even had one of these until the dentist showed it to me on my Xray on Monday. I feel quite angry sometimes about what gets done without informed consent.

I've been getting regular penile thrush

Yeah, I had a 'jock itch' issue for a while although it seems to be gone now (touch wood).

If you ever get to the bottom of your problems let me know, and I'll do likewise, because I'm going to be continually exploring possibilities and figuring out ways to get better.

Will try to remember. I don't think much will happen in the short term. At the moment I'm dealing with the t spike from the dentist visit. Hopefully just caused by the drill noise, which I do not think was enough to cause permanent hearing damage. My worry is that the big dose of mercury I inevitably got from the removal might have caused a permanent increase, since of course mercury is ototoxic. Only time will tell.

 

[mrdude1234]

@dboy have you ever considered seeing a naturopath or something like that? Or a holistic practitioner of some sort?

 

[mrdude1234]

@Chelles do you have any metal amalgams in your teeth and have you ever had a root canal procedure done?

 

[Chelles]

@mrdude1234 yes I have metal fillings since I was little but no root canals.

 

[dboy]

@dboy have you ever considered seeing a naturopath or something like that? Or a holistic practitioner of some sort?

I have considered that, but funds being limited and living in quite an isolated place it has not happened so far. It might be a good idea though if the mercury removal doesn't help. For now the plan is to give it some time, take lots of chlorella, vitamin C, NAC, etc., to work on getting rid of some mercury from my body. Then after a while go back on an anti-candida diet for a few months and see how that goes. If none of that helps then it is back to square one and maybe see someone then I guess.

At the moment this current tinnitus spike is starting to get to me a bit and I'm not thinking too clearly. I hate it when they go on for a few days and you start to worry it is permanent.

Good luck to you and @Chelles getting to the bottom of your issues. 21st century life is toxic in so many ways it is really hard to figure out what is going on sometimes.

 

[MontmorencyTT]

Iodine - Iodine deficiency, which is a major cause of thyroid dysfunction, can be increased with diet and kelp supplementation. Foods that have iodine are yogurt, eggs, meat, fish and other seafood, radish, parsley, potatoes, oatmeal and bananas.

Although this is an old posting, I'd like to comment on it as I've been getting interested in iodine lately (as well as other potential supplements or nutrients).

(Check out people like Mark Sircus, David Brownstein, Jorge Flechas, and Guy E. Abraham, for example).

As well as its relationship with the thyroid gland, surprisingly perhaps, only a small percentage of the body's iodine is stored there, and the rest is spread throughout the body in various tissues, including the skin (and is related to the ability to sweat, for example). So like many essential micronutrients, it is involved in many functions throughout the human body and severe insufficiency could lead to all sorts of problems.

So while thyroid issues are very important, the underlying problems may be at least partly caused nutritional insufficiency.

Edit: As far as iodine supplementation is concerned, as well as kelp, seaweed, or nascent iodine, the traditional form of iodine supplementation for many years was Lugol's solution, which is a mixture of elemental iodine and potassium iodide. This is still available. You can get the equivalent in tablet form as Iodoral.

[Disclaimer: I have no connection with the supplement industry, or indeed with any other industry].

 

[EmiM]

Hi All,
Thanks for all this good information. I had Graves disease and have been on Thyroid meds for @15 years. Changed several times from Synthroid to Natural Thyroid and just changed back to Synthroid a couple months ago due to not being able to regulate with the Natural Thyroid meds. Then I hot T but it sounds like it is in my head sometimes, not just the ears. I also looked up problems with Cervical Spine issues causing Tinnitus, and since I did not see anyone mention this as a possibile cause of T I thought you all would like to read this article. Check out the symptoms part, including of course Ear Ringing... Symptome are in several locations, so scroll thru the article... I am not suggesting that this is the only problem, but it might be of some help to some who have Thyroid problems that seem to be regulated, and still are suffering with T. I also wonder if those with T problems and those who have Acustic Neuromas might have tried some of the alternative therapies they suggest. Waiting to hear from you, but as these posts are a bit old, not sure if you are still checking in! Here is the link. Hope it helps: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/cervical+spondylosis

 

[Ben Steel]

I have hypothyroism for about 10years and only just got diagnosed 2weeks ago and have been taken medication daily and have had unbelievable improvements in my lifestyle. I feel awake, warm, more alert, less tired.

I have also had subtle tinnitus in my right ear for a year now and could only slightly hear it at night which I could manage.

However as of a week ago (about a week after a started the thyroid medication) my tinnitus significantly increased in volume all of a sudden and can hear it all the time.

I am struggling mentally and have had a couple of nervous breakdowns. Also am struggling to sleep and had to use my dads sleeping pills last night to get to sleep.

Does anyone think that the significant volume change in my tinnitus is due to my thyroid medication?

Would love to get anyone's help.
Thanks

 

[Song interpreter]

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

This is a patient run information/support site, much like this one. Patients helping each other cut through the misinformation.

I take Armour thyroid. It is from the thyroid gland of pigs. It has both T3 and T4. Go to the link above for more information. I believe hypothyroid is more common than stated. I have a sub-clinical case. My labs are in the low normal range with plenty of symptoms that cleared up when I started taking my Armour thyroid. I am grateful for a doctor who listens and trusts the patient!

 

[RachelG]

Around the beginning of November I started to hear a strange noise at night. We live in rural Bulgaria, in a village and apart from the odd barking dog and passing car it is very quiet, especially at night. However, I started to hear what sounded like a distant engine, but it never got any closer. Its almost like a droning sound, not a hum as such as seems to almost vibrate through me. It did not particularly stop me sleeping but was annoying. It was there for a couple of nights and I would go outside and could not really hear it but could hear it in other rooms of the house, although maybe not as loud. I can find no real explanation for it. There are electric cables going to the house but have been the same for years and nothing. I worried about it, looked it up, found out about the 'hum' but then either I was more tired and so did not notice it the same or life took over and it did not seem to be particularly there, or was very faint.

Then a couple of weeks later the noise was back and was really loud when I went to bed. I fell asleep ok but woke in the middle of the night and it kept me awake. The next day I could still hear it everywhere in the house, also next door house, but not really so much outside. Its like a constant distant aircraft noise or car engine that goes in and out, louder, quieter, louder, quieter.....and I almost more feel it than hear it. It left me tired with a slight headache and it was just pulsating through my body all the time. That was the worst day.

Since then we moved to another house in a completely different area, although still a quiet village location. There is very little passing traffic as we are at the end of a lane. At first the noise seemed to have gone, however I have begun to notice it again. I can hear it all the time but in the day there are other noises and distractions. It is at night when it is very quiet I can hear a constant drone. It now seems mainly in my left ear, or I can hear it mainly in that ear.

If I put my finger in that ear it stops. Also if I hold my nose and blow and keep the pressure up the noise cannot be heard. If I put my finger in my right ear I can still hear it, although maybe not as loudly.

I went to the pharmacist and got some cleaning spray. And have also had a consultation with a ENT specialist. I did not explain to him about the droning sound as it is difficult in another language, but he gave me a check-up and did not find anything out of the ordinary.

I have recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and only now through bit of research see there could be a connection. I suppose I will see if the medication I am now on helps. Only been on it for 3 days. And maybe mention to the consultant when I next see her.

If it is tinnitus then I can live with it easily enough at the moment. But am concerned it could be the symptom of more serious underlying problem. I have had recent blood tests done and they were all fine apart from my TSH levels for hypothyroidism and my blood pressure is fine.

 

[M lewis]

Hi all I recently had worse ing of my tinnitus which was in direct correlation to fatigue and then have being diagnosed with hypothyroidism. I believe there is a direct correlation and I am In Australia. Have started thyroxine to help my levels and hope my tinnitus will decrease also. Wishing you all the best xx Michelle

 

[Frédéric]

Analysis of prognostic factors of low-frequency type of sudden sensorineural hearing loss

Objective: To investigate the prognostic factors of patients with low-frequency type of sudden sensorineural hearing loss.

Methods: From February 2017 to February 2019, adult patients with unilateral low-frequency type of sudden sensorineural hearing loss in Department of Otological Medicine, Shandong Provincial ENT Hospital, Shandong University were selected. All patients were examined by audiology, vestibular function evaluation, imaging examination and serum thyroid function test; the same treatment program was given, the curative effect was recorded and followed up for more than 3 months. SPSS 20.0 software was used to analyze concomitant symptoms (tinnitus, ear tightness, echo, rotatory vertigo), degree of deafness, inducement of deafness, basic disease, vestibular function (caloric test), electrocochleogram, inner ear gadolinium enhanced MRI radiography and thyroid function on prognosis of patients.

Results: Among the 155 patients, 76 cases were cured (49.0%), 1 case was markedly effective (0.6%), 19 cases were effective (12.3%), and 59 cases were ineffective (38.1%). The total effective rate was 61.9%. Among them, 24 cases (15.5%) had hearing fluctuations during follow-up, and 1 case (0.6%) developed Meniere's disease. Univariate analysis showed that vestibular function, electrocochleogram and inner ear MRI were correlated with prognosis. Multivariate logistic analysis showed that ear tightness, vestibular function, electrocochleogram and inner ear MRI were correlated with the prognosis of the patients. The two analyses showed that tinnitus, echo, rotational vertigo, degree of deafness, predisposing factors and underlying diseases were not significantly correlated with the prognosis of the patients (all P>0.05). Rotational vertigo was closely related to gender, and women had a high incidence. There was a significant correlation between the degree of deafness and prognosis in patients with course of less than 1 week (P<0.05). The abnormal rate of vestibular function in patients with course of disease ≤ 1 week was significantly different from that>1-≤2 and>2-≤4 weeks (P<0.05). The rate of abnormal thyroid function was significantly higher than that of normal people (P<0.05), but there was no significant correlation between thyroid dysfunction and hearing prognosis (χ(2)=0.009, P=0.923) .

Conclusions: The prognosis of low-frequency sudden sensorineural hearing loss is not related to clinical symptoms, inducements, underlying diseases and serological abnormalities of thyroid function, but the degree of deafness is positively related to the prognosis within 1 week from onset. Abnormal thyroid function is one of the risk factors of happening with low-frequency descending sudden deafness. Abnormal vestibular caloric test, electrocochleogram and endolymph hydrops are the factors of poor prognosis.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32668873/