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I don't have to relearn every day. And this is probably because my T is usually the quietest upon waking. I'm sure if it were louder upon waking, like it is for some people, then I probably would have to rehabituate every day. Or it simply would've taken me longer.

Exactly my experience. My dad also has had it for over 30 years from the military. Only I did not know he had it until I got mine and started complaining about it. But I figure if I knew so many who had it and they could habituate, then so could I. It brought me comfort to know I was not alone...

For some people, yes. Some people are able to habituate while others can't. I can only speculate that the reasons for this are varied... Some people genuinely have it worse than others. Some people have other factors apart from tinnitus that make hsbituating difficult or even impossible, etc...

True, but this doesn't exactly follow. When I got T and opened up about it, I found out that many people I know have it including my own dad. They either just never complained about it to me, or perhaps I was off in my own little world and wasn't paying attention. But once I developed T, I saw...

If you really do have liquid behind your ear drum, I'd look into getting that treated. I know fluid in my middle ears have been able to make my tinnitus get very loud. But once it went away, my tinnitus went back to baseline. As long as you have a real, physical and treatable problem, I...

Have you tried to see if hearing aids would help?

So basically there is no reason to look forward to it for most people on here.

Well at least your doc had some intelligible things to say and possibly an idea. When I went to my first doc, I pretty much knew I was screwed when he had to look up what tinnitus was on Mayo clinic right there in front of me.

What's next for you, AM-101?

What drug?

He asked what we think, not when. Obviously we can have an estimated time without making a definitive claim, such would be with the length of string.

lol that seems kinda weird to say since you took it regularly.

Just curious, but what sport did you okay? Was it your living?

Well what I don't get is why does this bother you so much? So he has to put a pill bottle under a pillow to put the cap on... so what? I can see how that'd be a hassle for him, but I'm puzzled why this bothers you, as it's not like it's an inconvenience for you. But let me say this: if this...

If it remains a 3 without drugs, then that's very amazing. I hope it was the drugs and not because this would've happened no matter what.

Are you still cured? No T or H even without drugs?

I had mine pulled out after I got T and if anything my T remained the same.

One of my college professors got a virus that damaged his optic nerves and is now blind. Doctors can't help him and he had to learn to live with it.

Yep. And the thing is, usually there is a grain of truth to these types of things. But it seems like there is none for ginkgo or NAC or magnesium. I am a believer in supplements, but not for tinnitus.

I couldn't agree more. I haven't heard of one person who has been helped by it for any ailment actually. It seems overwhelmingly obvious that it doesn't work. But then again, I continue to see posts of people taking NAC and that doesn't seem to help either.

Does anyone have any info on this drug? It's used as an anti-nausea drug for women during pregnancy. My wife is pregnant and started taking it and upon taking it, she said she felt like she was less nauseous but her ringing got louder. I can't seem to find much info on this. Can it cause...

Maybe it is time for you to give keppra and trobalt a shot. I know you're worried about taking them. But, if they bring you relief, then maybe you could just take them once a week or something. Like you said, even one hour of relief would be nice. So taking them just once a week or so wouldn't...

Do you know what caused your pain?

Absolutely yes. Especially if I have sinus and ear congestion. My T will magnify greatly. Getting a cold that causes congestion (or allergies) spikes my tinnitus so much that it's almost like starting all over for me. At least that's how it was last time.

Wouldn't that destroy all hearing, though?

I totally hear what you're saying and you're right, ENTs should take more of an interest. I guess it's just like I was saying before, when you don't know what to do, then you don't know what to do. Remember, we're asking our doctors to cure something that is uncurable. It would be like going up...

1. While those are good points, to many on these forums, hearing about habituation protocols would just serve to make them angrier. But even still, the end result is they have tinnitus no matter how compassionate the doctor is. 2. Understood. But when you're at a dead end, you're at a dead...

No matter how sympathetic a doctor is, tinnitus is incurable and the end result between a good doc and a bad one is the same. Since everyone here has T and it has impacted us in a major way, we tend to see the world through the lens of our tinnitus. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of...

I wouldn't quite say it's a total waste though. Becuase if nothing else, the ENT can rule out any serious risk to your health. I know that's not what a patient is hoping for, but at least it's something.

You know Dan, I'm not going to start an argument because I want to honor the boards strict policies as I think they are for the better. So I'm backing off. But I'll just say in one of your posts you made a few weeks back, you pretty much said it all. It really shed light on your situation.

Well, it's not that I'm unwilling to talk about H, but I don't have it and don't have first hand experience with it. So I can't really relate with it directly, other than to say, "That sounds like a nightmare".... and I mean, that. It really does. That's why I was saying that perhaps there...

People commit suicide for all kinds of reasons, Danny. Some people commit suicide because of loss of relationships. Some people commit suicide because they weren't selected for the job, or didn't get accepted into the University they wanted to study at. And some people commit suicide for...

I would love to believe this to be true. But it simply isn't. The body is great at healing many things, especially when it's properly cared for. But, we can't forget that this doesn't mean the body can heal from literally everything. Unfortunately, tinnitus is one of those things. And if you...

Oh, I got regular chiropractic care way before I had T. My getting chiro care has nothing to do with my T whatsoever. I have chronic back pain, and chiro care helps me manage. In fact, getting two adjustments per week (which for me is free because of my insurance policy) plus doing the...

With tinnitus, there are so many causes and triggers to spikes that I have no doubt your neck manipulation could've caused a spike. That said, I get adjusted twice a week which includes cracking my neck, and I've never had s problem. Btw, kind of weird... Because in the U.S., osteopaths are...

For someone who just got tinnitus, my suggestion would be to try to relax. Easier said than done, I know. But relax, drink some warm beverage, or do something to take your mind off of it as much as possible. Next, I'd suggest seeing a doctor immediately... The sooner, the better. If one can...

I never said he should stop. My point was simply that he's misusing the word cure. And btw, the alternative to trobalt and keppra is not misery. Plenty of people have habituated who've never taken drugs.

It's not even a cure. Danny Boy is quite frankly, abusing the word. A cure would mean he could stop keppra and his H won't return. But since he has to keep taking keppra to suppress his H, what he is actually describing is a treatment not a cure.

Here in the U.S., it's not easy to find a doc who's willing to experiment. If we can't get it, then it simply isn't an option.

Suffering itself is a reaction. Hence the reason no reaction means no suffering. As I've said, poking fun at the concept that no reaction = no suffering is pointless because by definition this is true. However, what can be argued is whether one can truly not react or have the reaction be...

I know you're being facetious, but by definition this is true, no reaction = no suffering. No reaction doesn't mean, "I feel pain but I'm going to ignore it and carry on as if I don't react." Because the moment you feel pain, you've reacted. After all, pain IS a reaction. If you want to drive...

Well there you go... Now you can really go at it without fear. At least not everyone has to give up their favorite things in life because of T.

@ampumpkin glad to hear that you're doing well. And glad to hear that you're in a relationship with someone who is understanding. T really doesn't have to rule our lives.

Do you think that's why you do that? Like how some people obsessively wash their hands, you obsessively spank it? Because if you're sexually exhausted then wouldn't that make it so you don't have the desire to?

Lol somehow I think this falls more under people feeling guilty about spankin' it. Like they feel like it's wrong to do it, so when something bad happens they attribute the bad thing as punishment for it.

@marqualler for research purposes everything is worth looking into. But from my personal experience and the experience of people I know personally, magnesium in any form doesn't help. But something else to consider. Magnesium might be a relatively safe supplement but taking supplements in...

Something for all to consider: Dr. Nagler is an MD who treats tinnitus and I'm sure he's seen it all and has heard it all. If magnesium or any supplement worked, he'd most likely know. And since he also has tinnitus, he'd probably be thrilled if it were as easy as popping a mg pill.

I fully agree. Believe me, I would LOVE it if magnesium helped. Same thing with vit C. A few years ago I had a bad cold coming on. So I fell for the bs if taking 1000 mg of vit c every hour... Yeah that did jack crap and wasted money.

Perhaps I spoke too hastily. I suppose if tinnitus could be caused by s variety of factors, and peoples tinnitus reacts differently to different things, then it's not that surprising that magnesium might bring some people relief. But that has not been my experience nor the experience of other...

I hate to be a pessimist but I don't think it matters. I think you'll find no matter what, it won't help tinnitus.

Are you specialized in one type of plant?

What's worse the H or the T?

Your tinnitus can be masked, yet you've said before that habituation only works for mild tinnitus or am I mistaking you for someone else? I bring this up because my tinnitus is extremely hard to mask due to its frequency and the way it constantly wavers. Basically it is nearly impossible for me...

About the only thing I do is have rain sound at night. But this is more because I like it. It can't mask my T anyway. Otherwise I don't avoid anything. I do what I want. But I have never been the type to chase concerts or anything.

Well I wouldn't say it cured it if you still have to take keppra. It more has it under control. But to say it cured it is about like saying tinnitus is cured while its masked. Besides, you might be fine now but how do you know you aren't causing long term damage? That's something I wouldn't take...

Have you ever studied really hard for a test and when it came time to take the test, it suddenly became clear that you focused too much in one area but not the area you're being tested on? I'm sure this has happened to just about every body at one time or another. As just about everyone on this...

As nice as it'd be to have a doc who'd prescribe me anything I wanted, I cannot blame a doc one bit about being hesitant to prescribe something off label. Think about it, would you if you were a doctor? Please think about this not from emotion but from a realistic view. Let's say you were a...

Unfortunately, there isn't a whole lot anyone can do about tinnitus if your goal is to either make it go away or have a consistent and repeatable way to lower the volume. It doesn't matter if your doctor is the more caring person in the world or the harshest doc there is. The end result will be...

That'd definitely help more than what they generally do. But at the height of my anxiety, anything other than, "this is a curable condition and you'll be back to normal in a week" would've still had similar results. Basically, no matter how it is said, the bottom line is nothing can be done...

@awbw8 i agree. The problem is that when we go to a doctor for tinnitus, we're expecting him to rid us of something that no one in the world knows how to do. So the doc is left with virtually no options rather than tell us the harsh truth about living with it. It sucks, but there's really...