2020 US Presidential Election
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It's been confirmed. $2000 stimulus payment coming your way.
So far Republicans are still leading in the race. I'm not sure how they could come to a conclusion that Democrats will win both seats in the US Senate when it's currently at 90% reporting.
I have noticed a similar pattern with people who left Russia before the collapse that they always spoke negatively about it. They're normally on average on the younger side in my experience so they grew up in the worst times of the 80s, but when you speak to old people who actually live there right now to compare the difference between Soviet Russia and Modern day Russia, then the majority would speak positive about the Soviet days (mainly the seniors) despite Putin being very right wing. That's what I was getting at when I mentioned the demographic and them comparing the difference between living in 2 different systems in the same country and culture.
There's a joke my friends living in Russia make about it saying "In mother Russia, the boomers are leftists" because you know how in most countries the elders are always more conservative and right wing on average, but in Russia it's the complete opposite:
Two out of three Russians regret the fall of the Soviet Union
A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -"during the time of socialism".
Soon you mentioned Stalin, another thing that really surprised me so much is how many Russians I met saw Stalin in a very positive light. It blew my mind the last time I was in Moscow when I asked about the picture of Stalin on the wall of this pub I was in. I don't really want to judge them because I never grew up in Soviet times and most of my information about it comes from movies like Rocky 4 lol, but it is interesting as I thought most hated Stalin as I knew some Italian and German seniors who hated Mussolini and Hitler. Apparently 70 percent of Russians see him positively:
Stalin's Approval Rating Among Russians Hits Record High – Poll
I witnessed a similar pattern like the Russians who left before the collapse of the USSR, except it's white South Africans who left after apartheid ended and normally spoke bad about Nelson Mandela. They won't straight up be blunt enough to say "life was better under apartheid" because then they would sound like white supremacists. Apparently this is quite common as I have spoke to some people who knew these South African folks. They're very subtle about it saying how "life got worst" after apartheid ending (they won't specifically say apartheid, but mention Nelson Mandela instead who helped end it) even though homicides rates dropped dramatically after apartheid ended.
What I'm getting at how is that people leave countries based on some self interest doesn't always share the same values as the people that live back home like everyone who lives in South Africa right now to compare the difference between apartheid and post-apartheid. It suits some people's values, while some it doesn't, but the majority preferred apartheid ending, kinda like how the majority of Russians preferred the the soviet system based on some statistics. This is definitely not me saying white supremacist South Africans and anti-soviet Russians are the same, but that their values don't share the majority back home who benefited more under that system they left.
Below is the data on homicide rates of South Africa after apartheid started to end in 1990 which contradicts what that white South African I spoke to saying "life got worse" after apartheid which I'm going to post in case anyone is questioning whether or not life got better in South Africa after apartheid.
Trump actually sounded drunk on that recent "perfect phone call" he had relating to election fraud slurring some of his words lol.
You guys should just give up on debunking the election fraud claims and just play into their paranoia saying "Welcome to Biden's communist dictatorship" and tell them radical liberals BLM and the antifa boys are following them every day because they laced their beers and pizza with tracking microchips. If they still believe the election fraud claims after losing nearly 60 cases then I'm sure they will believe about BLM having microchips inside them.
The voting public will never embrace Europe's brand of socialism for a host of reasons, not the least of which is we have been conditioned not to accept the high taxes required to bankroll it, hence we'd get the "spend" and not the "tax" part of Reagan's "tax and spend liberal" that has been ingrained into the public. Even figures like Clinton tried to avoid going down that road in order to distance himself from Carter's policies (or Reagan's characterization of his policies).
I'm not talking about what would be best for the US. I'm only talking about the Overton window of acceptable policy in this country.
The reason Bernie is an exception should be obvious--he comes from one of the few post-hippie enclaves left in the US.
I guess this comes across as sort of fatalistic, but I've learned not to bother advocating for policies I know will never gain traction.
Don't worry Lucifer, it's the Americans who have it the wrong way around - we're with you
I'm not sure what the intention is trying to prove that some Russians are nostalgic for the Soviet Union. It sounds like it's an intent to prove that communism is better than our way of life? Just because the Soviet Union fell doesn't mean what took its place reflects the best of what democracy and capitalism has to offer. What replaced it was a Kleptocracy as we all know. We should not therefore use that as some sort of case-study. Same deal with China.
Speaking of taxes, apparently if you count "private taxes" then France with one of the highest taxes in the world pays lower than the US overall (at least at the time of this video). I know some right wingers might hate Michael Moore and personally I'm not exactly a huge fan of him but he does provide some knowledge in this video.
I am not talking about voting by mail if it is an absentee ballot. I wrote that earlier. What most Republicans are worried about are states like Pennsylvania that did mass mailings of ballots to registered voters. I've got zero issues with absentee ballots, those are requested and sent to the voter.
The Democratic voter has much less control over picking their nominee than Republicans do. It's a fact.
This challenge is nothing new. Democrats did it in 2016. It just didn't get much press.
They still won't admit they lost! Now die-hard Clinton loving Democrats plan to challenge the validity of Trump's electoral college win as it is ratified by Congress
Now 95% reporting, Warnock is leading and Ossoff a few hundred votes behind Perdue.
I think the $2000 stimulus payment is guaranteed. Both Democrats look likely to win and turn the Senate Blue. Democrats will hold the US Senate, House of Representatives and Presidency for the first time in 10 years.
We will wait and see the implications of turning the Senate Democratic.
I think the $2000 stimulus payment is guaranteed. Both Democrats look likely to win and turn the Senate Blue. Democrats will hold the US Senate, House of Representatives and Presidency for the first time in 10 years.
We will wait and see the implications of turning the Senate Democratic.
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I hate the United States of America. People are voting wrong, or it's been decided beforehand. Something smells.
Republicans losing this one too.
I want to be in medically induced coma for the next 4 years.
But really, I hope the country goes to shit, so people regret not giving Trump another term.
Republicans losing this one too.
I want to be in medically induced coma for the next 4 years.
But really, I hope the country goes to shit, so people regret not giving Trump another term.
70 million Americans believe what I do. So I guess half of America is dumb and deplorable. Democrats are just so much more intelligent.
I probably wouldn't even be on this thread if Trump had won. Even if the Democrats cheated but didn't win, I'd not be here either. I am here because I and so many others see the irregularities in results and the way that the election was conducted. So many pieces of evidence, just no court will even look at it. There really is no more reason for me to argue this. Everyone in this thread made up their minds back in November.
Turn the tables. How would you act if Trump had won the election, with the very same circumstances.
Yes, I've heard that too. It's good to know. The CCP detests Trump though and was very excited when Biden was declared victor.
First order of business is almost certainly another stimulus package. Probably with a price tag of at least a trillion dollars.
Considering I was one of the liberals who didn't get on board the russiagate train, I think I'd accept the results and move on. The evidence doesn't meet the standards of court and that's that. Not even Trump's own judges have given him a bone.
I agree with this (although the Daily Mail is absolutely awful!) People did appear to try to get rid of Trump from what I can see (didn't some Democrats and Republicans vote against him in the electoral college certification thing???)
We saw the same thing with Brexit in the UK. The Remainers (who were mostly liberal) hated the result, and called for it to be overturned or for there to be a second vote. I'm a Remainer, but I would never have tried to overturn the result just because I didn't like it.
Trump is taking it further than anyone ever has, and is threatening the future democracy of the country in the process, but trying to overturn the result is not unique to him, or unique to conservatives. That's why having a robust democracy is so important.
You know, I really understand how you feel. I felt the same way when Hillary lost and the GOP took full control over Government in 2016. It's hard to lose in politics. I hope Biden and the Democrats pleasantly surprise you but if not, there's always next time.
and don't forget, FX-322, Oto-413, New retigabine, new non-addictive gaba drugs and SPI-1005 will all be here in the next 4 years. So our ears will be saved no matter what we think of Washington.
