2020 US Presidential Election

An interesting study on female ambition in politics: https://www.fastcompany.com/9054178...es-not-voters-hurt-ambitious-women-candidates

The study: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-020-09636-z

I wasn't able to find more logistics on study design. But I must say, it's rather interesting to read this after AOC was just painted as the meanie by the DNC.

I think there are complicated aspects to this. For example, most sexist voters will not admit to themselves that they have a problem with ambition.
 
An interesting study on female ambition in politics: https://www.fastcompany.com/9054178...es-not-voters-hurt-ambitious-women-candidates

The study: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-020-09636-z

I wasn't able to find more logistics on study design. But I must say, it's rather interesting to read this after AOC was just painted as the meanie by the DNC.

I think there are complicated aspects to this. For example, most sexist voters will not admit to themselves that they have a problem with ambition.
I think it's incredibly bizarre that women in office are held to a higher standard than men. It's arguably the case in the 2016 elections when some people had more difficulty with Hillary Clinton's alleged mishandling of emails , Benghazi, Haiti (Clinton foundation), etc (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...linton-emails-new-york-times-state-department), but less with Trump's alleged involvement in the so called Russia gate (talks with Russian double agents in the Trump Tower, golden showers), giving two women hush money in relation to extramarital affairs , refusing to release tax returns, blatant racist language, and the list keeps on going (https://www.dw.com/en/michael-cohen-testimony-to-us-congress-what-you-need-to-know/a-47719509). Personally, I think the allegations against Trump are more serious and appalling than what could be said about Clinton.

Now the same thing is happening with right wing conservative media calling Kamala overambitious, because she did oppo-research in the primaries (which is normal as most candidates do oppo-research during elections) and for being an opportunist (which is partly true, as she was very critical of Biden's friendship with segregationists in his early days but show more sympathy to his moderate views on gun control, environment and health care ((she distanced herself eventually from M4all)) (https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-too-ambitious-tim-kaine-was-not-2020-8).

I'm wondering if they would be equally as critical if they look at the complete mismatch Pence/Trump, as it would be hard to argue that the christian beliefs of someone as Michael Pence are in line with someone who acts almost as if he is lacks any moral fibre & understanding of christian conservatism (breaking records lying, extramarital affairs, abusing political power for own gain ((e.g. using AG as personal lawyer)), which BTW tells enough about how opportunistic & ambitious GOP christian politicians are (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/us/politics/trump-polls-christians-evangelicals.html).

Of course, it's very easy to come up with these examples, but I just want to illustrate that men like Michael Pence are less criticised as being ambitious or opportunistic than women like Kamala Harris.
 
I think it's incredibly bizarre that women in office are held to a higher standard than men. It's arguably the case in the 2016 elections when some people had more difficulty with Hillary Clinton's alleged mishandling of emails , Benghazi, Haiti (Clinton foundation), etc (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...linton-emails-new-york-times-state-department), but less with Trump's alleged involvement in the so called Russia gate (talks with Russian double spies in the Trump Tower, golden showers), giving two women hush money in relation to extramarital affairs , refusing to release tax returns, blatant racist language, and the list keeps on going (https://www.dw.com/en/michael-cohen-testimony-to-us-congress-what-you-need-to-know/a-47719509). Personally, I think the allegations against Trump are more serious and appalling than what could be said about Clinton.
To me, the bottom line is that Clinton losing to Trump is about as much as evidence of sexism as there could possibly be. That's not to say that the only reason people don't like Hillary Clinton is because she's a female, but it's so obvious that her flaws were blown up. I'm sorry, but the email scandal would be nothing if she was a male. I really never understood the lesser of two evils stuff. Clinton was not that bad. She was a secretary of state, senator, first lady, lawyer. What human being understands government more? I get that people wanted something different -- that makes sense to me. But the "incompetent" arguments were stupid.

I have said this before, but I think a lot of the reason why people were scared of electing Warren or Harris is because 2016 was a giant eye opener in terms of sexism. I think people see how much more qualified Clinton was than Trump and still lost. This is one reason why we have Biden, the safe white dude. It's not because the Democratic electorate actually has an issue with a female.
 
To me, the bottom line is that Clinton losing to Trump is about as much as evidence of sexism as there could possibly be. That's not to say that the only reason people don't like Hillary Clinton is because she's a female, but it's so obvious that her flaws were blown up. I'm sorry, but the email scandal would be nothing if she was a male. I really never understood the lesser of two evils stuff. Clinton was not that bad. She was a secretary of state, senator, first lady, lawyer. What human being understands government more? I get that people wanted something different -- that makes sense to me. But the "incompetent" arguments were stupid.

I have said this before, but I think a lot of the reason why people were scared of electing Warren or Harris is because 2016 was a giant eye opener in terms of sexism. I think people see how much more qualified Clinton was than Trump and still lost. This is one reason why we have Biden, the safe white dude. It's not because the Democratic electorate actually has an issue with a female.
Clinton was an establishment shill. They could have picked a much better female nominee. They lost because they didn't view Trump as a threat.
 
Clinton was an establishment shill. They could have picked a much better female nominee. They lost because they didn't view Trump as a threat.
I agree with this. While sexism obviously exists, it is way overplayed as a reason Clinton lost.

A lot of the people who said Clinton was "incompetent" praised McCain's choice of Palin so it's clearly more political than gender.

They tried to say that about Bernie supporters too but it falls flat when you consider how enthusiastic they are about AOC.

The truth is Clinton has a good resume/linked in but it's really hard to get people jazzed up about establishment centrist politics. And the people obsessed with Bengazi weren't going to vote for any Democrat, anyway.

Clinton ran a crappy campaign. She just took it for granted she would win and underestimated Trump's base and didn't even campaign in important swing states like Wisconsin.
 
Good read:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-obama-biden-economy-redux-11597793116

I, for one, do not want to go back to the days of over-regulation and increased taxation. It's hard to argue the unemployment aspect right now, due to the impact COVID-19 is having on the workforce. However, President Trump had unemployment under control prior to the coronavirus pandemic. According to Rakesh Kochhar of the Pew Research Center, "The rise in the number of unemployed workers due to COVID-19 is substantially greater than the increase due to the Great Recession, when the number unemployed increased by 8.8 million from the end of 2007 to the beginning of 2010." Lastly, economic growth also fluctuates in accordance to the business cycle.

In regard to over-regulation, look no further than Dodd-Frank. Was regulation necessary following the financial crisis of 2007-2008? Yes, but the severity was counterproductive to economic recovery. You had financial institutions with assets ranging from $100B to $250B that had to comply with stress tests and the Volcker Rule. As a result, loans to small businesses were not as frequently approved. These institutions needed to meet strict liquidity guidelines that were meant for the big banks to adhere to, in order to prevent a liquidity crisis. Fortunately, Congress passed a rollback with The Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and Consumer Protection Act. These financial institutions should not be held to the same standards as "too-big-to-fail banks." This is just one example of the overboard regulatory environment that the Democratic Party strives to achieve.

Why was our economy booming prior to COVID-19? A major reason is the corporate tax-rate reduction brought about by President Trump and Republicans in Congress. The reduction from 35% to 21% (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017) has significantly helped the creation of jobs and wage growth. In turn, this helped the economic landscape of the United States as companies have the capability to hire more workers and increase investment. More competition leads to better products and higher productivity.

Both the Obama and Trump Administrations have caused record-setting budget deficits. This trend will likely continue into the future. This is just the reality of government spending and expenditure in this day and age. I wish we could see more fiscal responsibility, but if you look at the 2021 forecasted U.S. budget breakdown, the government anticipates spending $4.829 trillion on mandated benefits alone (e.g. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid). Social benefits are not cheap. I think the Trump Administration is doing a fine job when it comes to efficient allocation of assets and financial stability.
That's one hell of a strong argument @Emgee. If you look at the statistics, it looks pretty good. It's also part of the reason why Trump would continue with the 'keep the economy going'' policy, regardless of what this can do to the spread of COVID-19. This is trickle economics at its finest, but you can also look at the story behind the statistics, which will paint a different picture about what's good for Wall Street and Main Street and which I will elaborate in just a moment. First I will write about what I think made the financial crisis of 2007-2008 possible (in just a short summary, as it is actually a complex story), and then I will move on to the fiscal conservatism (no deficit state. debt/strict fiscal policy) vs. Keynesian economics (increase demand to support growth economics).

Why did the Obama administration implement the Franklin -Dodd act in the first place? We need to go back to were it all began: the Glass - Steagall act. You might have heard that in 1933 the Glass-Steagall act was put into effect to separate commercial (so called main street banking) and investment banking (so called Wall Street banking). as a response to the stock market crash of 1929. By separating the two, commercial banks were prohibited from using people's savings for risky investments. Thus, Glass-Steagall was designed to act as a firebreak between Wall Street and its appetite for risk and Main Street and its demand for safety. The 1987 stock-market crash, before Glass-Steagall was gutted, is a perfect example of how a crisis on Wall Street was isolated from Main Street (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

However, in 1999, this act was repealed by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, an act that was supported by most Democrats and Republicans in congress, as they believed that the Glass-Steagall act was too restrictive for businesses and banks and they believed that the market is capable of strong self regulation. However, the 2007-2008 financial crisis proved otherwise. (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

After its repeal, banks merged into more complex and more leveraged institutions. They bought brokers and trading firms, created internal hedge funds and engaged in all manner of financial engineering that wouldn't have been allowable before repeal. It can be said that its repeal made the financial crisis far worse than had it been otherwise. Thus, low regulation and high reliance on large banks may have been the cause of the financial crisis https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-gl...wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation).

One of the main goals of the Dodd-Frank Act was to subject banks to more stringent regulation. The Act created the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) to address persistent issues affecting the financial industry and prevent another recession (e.g. works with regulators in large banks & provides access to consumers to truthful about mortgages and credit scores)n(https://searchcompliance.techtarget.com/definition/Dodd-Frank-Act). For some, like progressive politician Bernie Sanders & Elisabeth Warren, this does not go far as the structure of merged investment and commercial banks is still in place and most banks can still be too big to fail and therefore taxpayers will still pay the price if another financial crash happens. They propose to reinstate Glass-steagal Act, breaking banks that are too big to fail, tax on Wall Street speculation, etc (https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-financial-regulation/).

About the economic boom prior to COVID-19: trickle down economics works... mostly for business and the well to do. Sure, more people can get a job if you lower taxes for businesses. That would expand their budget, and thus allows them to hire more people, which expands their purchasing power, which is beneficial for companies, and so the cycle continues. So yeah, it can increase more jobs, but does it also entail high quality and higher wage jobs for the common people? In my opinion, trickle down economics a pure theoretical assumption and seldom aligned with reality, as it is mentioned in a study of Tax Justice Network (2012) that wealth of the super-rich does not often trickle down to improve the economy, but it mostly instead tends to be amassed and sheltered in tax havens with a negative effect on the tax bases of the home economy (https://www.taxjustice.net/2014/03/13/2012-inequality-edition/).

Moreover, a study in the Journal of Political Economy has found that, contrary to the trickle down theory, that ''the positive relationship between tax cuts and employment growth is largely driven by tax cuts for lower-income groups and that the effect of tax cuts for the top 10 percent on employment growth is small'' (https://journalistsresource.org/stu...0-of-earners-spurs-job-growth-research-finds/).

And lastly, trickle down economics is also the belief in a self-regulated free market, but in practice, we see that business not always invest in job training, in higher wages (7.25 dollars is the norm in most states, but it should have been way higher (around 19-21 dollars) if it was linked to labour productivity growth), high job dependancy due to health care coverage via employer (which weakens employee's position in negotiating wages, job switch, etc.). This all brings a lot of people in the state of precarity: some people need to have two jobs to make ends meet, some live most of their lives in the gig economy without any way of moving up the social ladder, some have to stay at their mediocre job, as they want to retain their health coverage (https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-still-pretending-trickle-down-economics-work).

About your point about fiscal conservatism (reduced government spending & minimal government debt): I have trouble with with laissez-faire economics as a way to handle certain crises, as. America is now slowly getting into an economic one. We have seen in the aftermath of the financial crash of 1929 that Republican president Hoover did the same thing. When the stock market crash happened, president Hoover thought it would be short lived. He believed laissez-faire, rugged individualism, voluntarism and balancing the budget would soon return the economy to prosperity. His measures did very little as. there was an increase in inequality , mass decrease employment, wages fell below poverty level, crumbling infrastructure, poor public and social services, etc. This also entailed lower tax revenue, thus also contributed to a higher national debt (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). After Franklin Delano Roosevelt came to power in 1933, he had the intention to reduce national debt long term via increased tax revenue, which could be achieved by Keynesian economics (New Deal programme), which means investing in infrastructure, education, a public works & relief programme (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). The national debt increased, but only slightly (from 2.7 billion in 1932 to 2.9 billion in 1940) due to increase in tax revenue, which is an outcome of higher economic productivity output (from 1.9 billion in 1932 to 6.5. billion in 1940) (https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tbb-0303-14.pdf). Thus, from a historical perspective, fiscal conservatism might work if the economy is stable, but in times of crisis, it is not always the best alternative.
 
Clinton was an establishment shill. They could have picked a much better female nominee. They lost because they didn't view Trump as a threat.
I believe Warren would have lost to Trump as well in 2016. And I receive no pleasure in saying that.
 
Maybe it's just my spike induced frustration speaking, but Trump is going to win this thing, isn't he? He's going to cheat he's way to victory and we're all fucked? :banghead::(
 
Maybe it's just my spike induced frustration speaking, but Trump is going to win this thing, isn't he? He's going to cheat he's way to victory and we're all fucked? :banghead::(
I think you are effed regardless of who wins.

I would just remember this as a bad period in US history; one which should never be repeated.
 
I think you are effed regardless of who wins.

I would just remember this as a bad period in US history; one which should never be repeated.
True.

The way I see it is like this:

You have two choices. Being punched in the stomach. Or being stabbed.

Obviously, you'd rather neither would happen. But since you have to choose, the choice is obvious.

And the USA has already been stabbed.
 
True.

The way I see it is like this:

You have two choices. Being punched in the stomach. Or being stabbed.

Obviously, you'd rather neither would happen. But since you have to choose, the choice is obvious.

And the USA has already been stabbed.
If Trump stays in I am more concerned about what he does or does not do in regard to geopolitics and the international stage rather than what he does internally in the US. With Biden I am more concerned that he might die or lose the plot on the job.
 
Why are all these horrible riots going on in Democrat runned cities like Portland Oregon?

Lets be honest. Most of the democrats are turning a blind eye towards this chaos.
 
Why are all these horrible riots going on in Democrat runned cities like Portland Oregon?

Lets be honest. Most of the democrats are turning a blind eye towards this chaos.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...recorded-knocking-man-unconscious-in-portland

This doesn't appear to meet the criteria of "peaceful," if you ask me.

The city officials are negligent in preventing and keeping these acts from occurring. They are silent when these acts occur because it goes against their campaign strategy toward re-election. That's not leadership.

They are silent when offenses like this occur. It's sickening, really. No law, no order, and it's only going to get worse.
 
This thread is nothing but a circle jerk of radical leftist. @PeteJ is severely outnumbered. For the sake of argument and my love for trolling, I have to play the role of the right wing conservative to balance things out.

Let's start Portland and related cities that are BURNING BECAUSE OF RIOTERS.
https://noqreport.com/2020/07/13/as...o-nothing-but-point-fingers-at-the-president/

Now you whiny crybaby leftist have two choices regarding Portland Violence

1. Side with Trump and restore order.

2. Watch Portland burn and put innocent black lives at risk from Mob Violence.
 
That's one hell of a strong argument @Emgee. If you look at the statistics, it looks pretty good. It's also part of the reason why Trump would continue with the 'keep the economy going'' policy, regardless of what this can do to the spread of COVID-19. This is trickle economics at its finest, but you can also look at the story behind the statistics, which will paint a different picture about what's good for Wall Street and Main Street and which I will elaborate in just a moment. First I will write about what I think made the financial crisis of 2007-2008 possible (in just a short summary, as it is actually a complex story), and then I will move on to the fiscal conservatism (no deficit state. debt/strict fiscal policy) vs. Keynesian economics (increase demand to support growth economics).

Why did the Obama administration implement the Franklin -Dodd act in the first place? We need to go back to were it all began: the Glass - Steagall act. You might have heard that in 1933 the Glass-Steagall act was put into effect to separate commercial (so called main street banking) and investment banking (so called Wall Street banking). as a response to the stock market crash of 1929. By separating the two, commercial banks were prohibited from using people's savings for risky investments. Thus, Glass-Steagall was designed to act as a firebreak between Wall Street and its appetite for risk and Main Street and its demand for safety. The 1987 stock-market crash, before Glass-Steagall was gutted, is a perfect example of how a crisis on Wall Street was isolated from Main Street (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

However, in 1999, this act was repealed by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, an act that was supported by most Democrats and Republicans in congress, as they believed that the Glass-Steagall act was too restrictive for businesses and banks and they believed that the market is capable of strong self regulation. However, the 2007-2008 financial crisis proved otherwise. (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

After its repeal, banks merged into more complex and more leveraged institutions. They bought brokers and trading firms, created internal hedge funds and engaged in all manner of financial engineering that wouldn't have been allowable before repeal. It can be said that its repeal made the financial crisis far worse than had it been otherwise. Thus, low regulation and high reliance on large banks may have been the cause of the financial crisis https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-gl...wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation).

One of the main goals of the Dodd-Frank Act was to subject banks to more stringent regulation. The Act created the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) to address persistent issues affecting the financial industry and prevent another recession (e.g. works with regulators in large banks & provides access to consumers to truthful about mortgages and credit scores)n(https://searchcompliance.techtarget.com/definition/Dodd-Frank-Act). For some, like progressive politician Bernie Sanders & Elisabeth Warren, this does not go far as the structure of merged investment and commercial banks is still in place and most banks can still be too big to fail and therefore taxpayers will still pay the price if another financial crash happens. They propose to reinstate Glass-steagal Act, breaking banks that are too big to fail, tax on Wall Street speculation, etc (https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-financial-regulation/).

About the economic boom prior to COVID-19: trickle down economics works... mostly for business and the well to do. Sure, more people can get a job if you lower taxes for businesses. That would expand their budget, and thus allows them to hire more people, which expands their purchasing power, which is beneficial for companies, and so the cycle continues. So yeah, it can increase more jobs, but does it also entail high quality and higher wage jobs for the common people? In my opinion, trickle down economics a pure theoretical assumption and seldom aligned with reality, as it is mentioned in a study of Tax Justice Network (2012) that wealth of the super-rich does not often trickle down to improve the economy, but it mostly instead tends to be amassed and sheltered in tax havens with a negative effect on the tax bases of the home economy (https://www.taxjustice.net/2014/03/13/2012-inequality-edition/).

Moreover, a study in the Journal of Political Economy has found that, contrary to the trickle down theory, that ''the positive relationship between tax cuts and employment growth is largely driven by tax cuts for lower-income groups and that the effect of tax cuts for the top 10 percent on employment growth is small'' (https://journalistsresource.org/stu...0-of-earners-spurs-job-growth-research-finds/).

And lastly, trickle down economics is also the belief in a self-regulated free market, but in practice, we see that business not always invest in job training, in higher wages (7.25 dollars is the norm in most states, but it should have been way higher (around 19-21 dollars) if it was linked to labour productivity growth), high job dependancy due to health care coverage via employer (which weakens employee's position in negotiating wages, job switch, etc.). This all brings a lot of people in the state of precarity: some people need to have two jobs to make ends meet, some live most of their lives in the gig economy without any way of moving up the social ladder, some have to stay at their mediocre job, as they want to retain their health coverage (https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-still-pretending-trickle-down-economics-work).

About your point about fiscal conservatism (reduced government spending & minimal government debt): I have trouble with with laissez-faire economics as a way to handle certain crises, as. America is now slowly getting into an economic one. We have seen in the aftermath of the financial crash of 1929 that Republican president Hoover did the same thing. When the stock market crash happened, president Hoover thought it would be short lived. He believed laissez-faire, rugged individualism, voluntarism and balancing the budget would soon return the economy to prosperity. His measures did very little as. there was an increase in inequality , mass decrease employment, wages fell below poverty level, crumbling infrastructure, poor public and social services, etc. This also entailed lower tax revenue, thus also contributed to a higher national debt (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). After Franklin Delano Roosevelt came to power in 1933, he had the intention to reduce national debt long term via increased tax revenue, which could be achieved by Keynesian economics (New Deal programme), which means investing in infrastructure, education, a public works & relief programme (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). The national debt increased, but only slightly (from 2.7 billion in 1932 to 2.9 billion in 1940) due to increase in tax revenue, which is an outcome of higher economic productivity output (from 1.9 billion in 1932 to 6.5. billion in 1940) (https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tbb-0303-14.pdf). Thus, from a historical perspective, fiscal conservatism might work if the economy is stable, but in times of crisis, it is not always the best alternative.
Regulation was absolutely necessary following the financial crisis of 2007-2008; however, Dodd-Frank was too restrictive in that it hurt the productivity of "smaller" financial institutions ($100B - $250B in assets) that had to meet the same liquidity and stress tests as the large banks. Reserve-level standards should differ based on the size of institutions. As with everything, there needs to be balance. This specific regulation did not provide that. It punished with a broad stroke, instead of solely targeting the large banks.

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2018/05/23/how_dodd-frank_hurts_the_little_guy_110645.html

On a side note, I would argue that the United States does not actually operate under a capitalist system. The U.S. operates under a crony-capitalist system. If we operated under true capitalism, the banks wouldn't have been bailed out following the financial crisis of 2007-2008. Look at the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and the large monetary bonuses that were paid out to executive bankers after they contributed to a horrific crisis. There is a strong nexus that exists between the political and business classes. In pure capitalism, the banks should have failed without a bailout. You take on the risk, you take on the failure (or the success for that matter).

I don't subscribe to Keynesian economics as much as I do to Austrian economics. For instance, I believe the Keynesian multiplier is not as effective as it is acclaimed to be. The more the government spends does not always correlate to higher economic growth. Non-efficient asset allocation is very much a thing. We have finite resources, and political administrations do not always make the best use of these resources. Critical opportunity costs are neglected and pushed aside. I believe free-market trade with limited restrictions produces the best results, ceteris paribus.

https://mises.org/library/keynesian-multiplier-concept-ignores-crucial-opportunity-costs

Thanks for engaging in productive and civil discourse, @Christiaan. While it appears we disagree on many of these items, it is great to share differing ideas on how we think things should go. After all, we all want what's best for society; we just have different ways of getting there.
 
Why are all these horrible riots going on in Democrat runned cities like Portland Oregon?

Lets be honest. Most of the democrats are turning a blind eye towards this chaos.
Because some people are opportunists, not because BLM is inherently a violent movement.

And remember too some of the opportunists are also right wing, as "umbrella" boy turned out to be after being labelled anti-fa.

Or this guy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/

When it's a right wing opportunist they say he's a lone gunman or he's mentally ill but it's always labelled indicative of a whole movement when leftist are.
 
That's one hell of a strong argument @Emgee. If you look at the statistics, it looks pretty good. It's also part of the reason why Trump would continue with the 'keep the economy going'' policy, regardless of what this can do to the spread of COVID-19. This is trickle economics at its finest, but you can also look at the story behind the statistics, which will paint a different picture about what's good for Wall Street and Main Street and which I will elaborate in just a moment. First I will write about what I think made the financial crisis of 2007-2008 possible (in just a short summary, as it is actually a complex story), and then I will move on to the fiscal conservatism (no deficit state. debt/strict fiscal policy) vs. Keynesian economics (increase demand to support growth economics).

Why did the Obama administration implement the Franklin -Dodd act in the first place? We need to go back to were it all began: the Glass - Steagall act. You might have heard that in 1933 the Glass-Steagall act was put into effect to separate commercial (so called main street banking) and investment banking (so called Wall Street banking). as a response to the stock market crash of 1929. By separating the two, commercial banks were prohibited from using people's savings for risky investments. Thus, Glass-Steagall was designed to act as a firebreak between Wall Street and its appetite for risk and Main Street and its demand for safety. The 1987 stock-market crash, before Glass-Steagall was gutted, is a perfect example of how a crisis on Wall Street was isolated from Main Street (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

However, in 1999, this act was repealed by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, an act that was supported by most Democrats and Republicans in congress, as they believed that the Glass-Steagall act was too restrictive for businesses and banks and they believed that the market is capable of strong self regulation. However, the 2007-2008 financial crisis proved otherwise. (https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-glass-steagall-repeal-replace-dodd-frank/).

After its repeal, banks merged into more complex and more leveraged institutions. They bought brokers and trading firms, created internal hedge funds and engaged in all manner of financial engineering that wouldn't have been allowable before repeal. It can be said that its repeal made the financial crisis far worse than had it been otherwise. Thus, low regulation and high reliance on large banks may have been the cause of the financial crisis https://ritholtz.com/2017/04/new-gl...wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_legislation).

One of the main goals of the Dodd-Frank Act was to subject banks to more stringent regulation. The Act created the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) to address persistent issues affecting the financial industry and prevent another recession (e.g. works with regulators in large banks & provides access to consumers to truthful about mortgages and credit scores)n(https://searchcompliance.techtarget.com/definition/Dodd-Frank-Act). For some, like progressive politician Bernie Sanders & Elisabeth Warren, this does not go far as the structure of merged investment and commercial banks is still in place and most banks can still be too big to fail and therefore taxpayers will still pay the price if another financial crash happens. They propose to reinstate Glass-steagal Act, breaking banks that are too big to fail, tax on Wall Street speculation, etc (https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-financial-regulation/).

About the economic boom prior to COVID-19: trickle down economics works... mostly for business and the well to do. Sure, more people can get a job if you lower taxes for businesses. That would expand their budget, and thus allows them to hire more people, which expands their purchasing power, which is beneficial for companies, and so the cycle continues. So yeah, it can increase more jobs, but does it also entail high quality and higher wage jobs for the common people? In my opinion, trickle down economics a pure theoretical assumption and seldom aligned with reality, as it is mentioned in a study of Tax Justice Network (2012) that wealth of the super-rich does not often trickle down to improve the economy, but it mostly instead tends to be amassed and sheltered in tax havens with a negative effect on the tax bases of the home economy (https://www.taxjustice.net/2014/03/13/2012-inequality-edition/).

Moreover, a study in the Journal of Political Economy has found that, contrary to the trickle down theory, that ''the positive relationship between tax cuts and employment growth is largely driven by tax cuts for lower-income groups and that the effect of tax cuts for the top 10 percent on employment growth is small'' (https://journalistsresource.org/stu...0-of-earners-spurs-job-growth-research-finds/).

And lastly, trickle down economics is also the belief in a self-regulated free market, but in practice, we see that business not always invest in job training, in higher wages (7.25 dollars is the norm in most states, but it should have been way higher (around 19-21 dollars) if it was linked to labour productivity growth), high job dependancy due to health care coverage via employer (which weakens employee's position in negotiating wages, job switch, etc.). This all brings a lot of people in the state of precarity: some people need to have two jobs to make ends meet, some live most of their lives in the gig economy without any way of moving up the social ladder, some have to stay at their mediocre job, as they want to retain their health coverage (https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-still-pretending-trickle-down-economics-work).

About your point about fiscal conservatism (reduced government spending & minimal government debt): I have trouble with with laissez-faire economics as a way to handle certain crises, as. America is now slowly getting into an economic one. We have seen in the aftermath of the financial crash of 1929 that Republican president Hoover did the same thing. When the stock market crash happened, president Hoover thought it would be short lived. He believed laissez-faire, rugged individualism, voluntarism and balancing the budget would soon return the economy to prosperity. His measures did very little as. there was an increase in inequality , mass decrease employment, wages fell below poverty level, crumbling infrastructure, poor public and social services, etc. This also entailed lower tax revenue, thus also contributed to a higher national debt (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). After Franklin Delano Roosevelt came to power in 1933, he had the intention to reduce national debt long term via increased tax revenue, which could be achieved by Keynesian economics (New Deal programme), which means investing in infrastructure, education, a public works & relief programme (https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zxy3k2p/revision/8). The national debt increased, but only slightly (from 2.7 billion in 1932 to 2.9 billion in 1940) due to increase in tax revenue, which is an outcome of higher economic productivity output (from 1.9 billion in 1932 to 6.5. billion in 1940) (https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/tbb-0303-14.pdf). Thus, from a historical perspective, fiscal conservatism might work if the economy is stable, but in times of crisis, it is not always the best alternative.
Well thought out reply.

I think there is a conservative idea that all Wall Street regulation is bad but, while deregulation always favors Wall Street, it does not always favor the public (see Trump's killing of the fiduciary rule for instance).
 
Why are all these horrible riots going on in Democrat runned cities like Portland Oregon?

Lets be honest. Most of the democrats are turning a blind eye towards this chaos.
Chicago's mayor refused to allow protesters to protest in her neighborhood. "Destroy everywhere else but not my area." That's leftists for ya.

Unreal.
 
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...recorded-knocking-man-unconscious-in-portland

This doesn't appear to meet the criteria of "peaceful," if you ask me.

The city officials are negligent in preventing and keeping these acts from occurring. They are silent when these acts occur because it goes against their campaign strategy toward re-election. That's not leadership.

They are silent when offenses like this occur. It's sickening, really. No law, no order, and it's only going to get worse.
These are all neighbourhoods administered by leftist Democrats. Several of these officials and politicians have encouraged the behavior and shrug off any criticism. Kinda like the leftists here.
 
Clinton was an establishment shill. They could have picked a much better female nominee. They lost because they didn't view Trump as a threat.
Plus she is regarded as a war hawk by many. They didn't really avoid intervening and engaging in wars with Trump though but my argument that the parties are the same including when it comes to foreign policy is ignored and disputed by the liberals here.
 
Do you like Putin?

If so why?
Nyet. You can't tell from my posts?

Just because I am critical of the US politics doesn't mean I automatically like Putin.

He doesn't care about ethnic Russians, just himself and his immediate inner circle like family and closest friends. After that, he wants strict obedience. The Putin clan is okay with that and most of the other clans have reluctantly or unreluctantly adhered to it. Else, they are forced to leave in exile, get poisoned or voluntarily move.

I don't know for sure but I don't think Putin has approved of a successor or planned one so he just finds loopholes within the Russian legal and political system to continue his rule.

There's much social services neglect, corruption, poverty and crime, including much of it from the nearby foreign republics such as from the Caucasus (e.g. Chechens/Chechnya).

But, that was ignored and accepted long ago after working out a deal with Chechen dictator Kadyrov, who once boasted about killing (his first) Russians.

But, too many Russians have been indoctrinated and brainwashed into accepting or supporting Putin's traitorous rule.

However, as things worsen at home, patience and tolerance for the Neo Soviet status quo is apparently wearing thin?
 
Here is Trump inadvertently admitting how good the economy was even for big business under Obama:

Around 15:29.

 
For the sake of argument and my love for trolling, I have to play the role of the right wing conservative to balance things out.

Not much point in anyone engaging then, is there.

Have the courage to say what you really think. I'm sure Pete and others don't want fake help.
 
The city officials are negligent in preventing and keeping these acts from occurring. They are silent when these acts occur because it goes against their campaign strategy toward re-election. That's not leadership.

They are silent when offenses like this occur. It's sickening, really. No law, no order, and it's only going to get wo
You're not wrong that cities don't always enforce enough crime, but I would argue that right wing extremism is brushed over as well. For example, ignoring lone wolf shooters to maintain the second amendment voters.

I condemn Antifa. But here are the numbers: https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7
 
We know something most people don't know about healthcare. That it sucks because of how far behind physicians are from scientific research. It's interesting when you dive deeper into the health care issue you find truths that both right and left wing zealots might agree on. I wonder what would happen if we were deeply informed on other issues instead of just picking a political side?

The only reason we know hidden major issues behind healthcare is personal experience. Yet no political party talks about this.
 
We know something most people don't know about healthcare. That it sucks because of how far behind physicians are from scientific research. It's interesting when you dive deeper into the health care issue you find truths that both right and left wing zealots might agree on. I wonder what would happen if we were deeply informed on other issues instead of just picking a political side?

The only reason we know hidden major issues behind healthcare is personal experience. Yet no political party talks about this.
In the USA? There is no 'right/left' divide in the States. You guys just stick to your box and bubble. :rolleyes:

Both parties have been in the White House. I read that it's anticipated that the national debt will be around 78 trillion by 2028. I can't see myself being around then but think about that number for a minute. You can't fathom it. Both parties have the same lobbyists and are controlled by similar groups. They both are corrupt, bail out the banks, sleep with Big Pharma, continue the Military Industrial Complex agenda and so on and so on. I don't see anyone coming together soon to improve Healthcare anytime soon.

Especially, since there are so many people who just don't get it. I better not say any more. I don't want to get reported and banned!!!!!! :eek:
 
We know something most people don't know about healthcare. That it sucks because of how far behind physicians are from scientific research. It's interesting when you dive deeper into the health care issue you find truths that both right and left wing zealots might agree on. I wonder what would happen if we were deeply informed on other issues instead of just picking a political side?

The only reason we know hidden major issues behind healthcare is personal experience. Yet no political party talks about this.
Yeah I agree with this. There has to be a way for new science to get to doctors' desks quicker. Perhaps it could be mandated by law that they need to take courses even after they become doctors? Teachers need refresher courses in many places, doctors should do the same.
 
Nyet. You can't tell from my posts?

Just because I am critical of the US politics doesn't mean I automatically like Putin.

He doesn't care about ethnic Russians, just himself and his immediate inner circle like family and closest friends. After that, he wants strict obedience. The Putin clan is okay with that and most of the other clans have reluctantly or unreluctantly adhered to it. Else, they are forced to leave in exile, get poisoned or voluntarily move.

I don't know for sure but I don't think Putin has approved of a successor or planned one so he just finds loopholes within the Russian legal and political system to continue his rule.

There's much social services neglect, corruption, poverty and crime, including much of it from the nearby foreign republics such as from the Caucasus (e.g. Chechens/Chechnya).

But, that was ignored and accepted long ago after working out a deal with Chechen dictator Kadyrov, who once boasted about killing (his first) Russians.

But, too many Russians have been indoctrinated and brainwashed into accepting or supporting Putin's traitorous rule.

However, as things worsen at home, patience and tolerance for the Neo Soviet status quo is apparently wearing thin?
That was, on the whole, a good answer and sums up things pretty well.

Putin would like nothing better than to see himself made Tsar, King or Supreme Ruler. All he really cares about is his place in history and enhancing the cult of personality he has built up around him. He will almost certainly have a son, which he hopes will take over his reign in the distant future. Until then, he has to keep in power, either directly as president or as the overseer of whoever takes that position, because he can't let the truth come out about his dealings whilst in power. This is why he has built up rival intelligence services/internal military, i.e. to make sure that at least one fights for his corner if things go tits up or he dies.

I can understand why you call Chechnya foreign, but remember it is part of Russia just like all the other republics and so on.
 

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