2020 US Presidential Election

[Zugzug]

There is *nothing* Trump could do to make his followers wake up. Absolutely nothing.

He could drop his pants on stage tomorrow and slowly Jackson Pollack style piss all over a photo of Hillary Clinton (still) and his supporters would cheer and not for a second question if he has the right demeanor for the job.

He could ban all news except for OANN completely and his supporters would say "well everything else is fake news!" and they would cheer the end of the free press.

Trump could use long range acoustic devices that cause permanent hearing damage and tinnitus to end BLM protests and his supporters would say they are enemies of the people and deserve it.

Trump could look a supporter in the eye and say to not vote for him. They would anyways.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

It's not different. Our problems (like tinnitus) are multi-factorial but we have lost the ability to have a national conversation about it because we can't even agree what the problems are.

That's my case in point. Often tinnitus from whatever cause, including ear damage can also lead to other problems, as any system within our bodies can go haywire from -infection and bacteria travel (that weaken soft surfaces), stress, blood pressure, muscles, veins, nerves, arteries, soft tissue and hard surfaces that can cause all sorts of damage. So multi-factorial not only applies to cause of tinnitus, but what can happen later that places a road block on any improvement.

E.g. Climate change, COVID-19, police brutality.

Climate change is happening and China is partly responsible as well as such things as cutting down tress in the Amazon. Too many people and greed factors. Why didn't we stop flights coming in from China virus areas early on. With this, the democrats and press also need to be fact checked, but they are not. I happen to know that my US senator, Nancy was against stopping travel from other countries.

Regardless if we have different solution ideas we have to all agree that certain problems exist otherwise we can't even approach simple problems, nevermind complex, multi factorial ones.

Again I agree. All with high political power take part in personnel greed and cover ups and we will never move beyond this. So we need to forgive that even simple problems can be approached.

 

[just1morething]

There is *nothing* Trump could do to make his followers wake up. Absolutely nothing.

I've heard some simply like his policy, not his personality, better than the alternative.

It seems Jimmy Kimmel returned from vacation not missing a beat from his bashing of our current President of the United States. Why doesn't he ever criticize or make fun of Biden or Harris? I know he's a Democrat but a talk show host should be more neutral imo.

 

[FGG]

I've heard some simply like his policy, not his personality, better than the alternative.

Only my first hypothetical example concerned personality, the other two were policy.

And I have no idea what the percentages are but some people *like* his narcissistic and bullying personality because some of his supporters only care that he "owns the libs." It is at least not a deterrent for Trump voters obviously.

As far as policy, Chris Wallace actually had to read Biden's platform to Trump because he had no idea.

Trump has said Biden wants to take away religion (Biden is a practicing Catholic who goes to church while Trump tweets and golfs on Sunday morning), energy (Trump literally accused Biden of wanting to ban windows in one particularly unhinged rally speech, lol) and is "controlled" by far left Marxists.

I would love it if Trump wanted to talk about policy in a sane way during the debates but I won't hold my breath.

 

[Born To Slay]

I've heard some simply like his policy, not his personality, better than the alternative.

It seems Jimmy Kimmel returned from vacation not missing a beat from his bashing of our current President of the United States. Why doesn't he ever criticize or make fun of Biden or Harris? I know he's a Democrat but a talk show host should be more neutral imo.

They are a lot less to make fun of imo. I think that's why there's a perceived bias. Donald Trump constantly says outlandish things and has easily mockable traits. This isn't a bad thing necessarily but being easier and more entertaining to make fun is going to lead to that. For real, Biden isn't funny. He's boring and while he does have gaffes, he hasn't had a big one lately. During the primary they made fun of him for his gaffes.

 

[Juan]

Trump could look a supporter in the eye and say to not vote for him. They would anyways.

A look at recent history:

Trump Russia affair: Key questions answered

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

 

[PeteJ]

I think about this kind of stuff a lot. I think the reason why this board has a small number of people that drive all of the posts (long-term, obviously plenty of people are in and out) is because severe tinnitus and/or hyperacusis is a combination of multiple rare problems, namely: maladaptive neuroplasticity and hearing damage.

In terms of politics, one could argue the Trump phenomenon is similar. A broken system, perfect for a psychopathic, privileged, trust fund baby to exploit. Without someone exploiting this system, it possibly settles down as data-driven people solve the actual problems.

That's one of the most insane posts here.

 

[Zugzug]

That's one of the most insane posts here.

Just giving you a heads up that I am placing you on ignore. All you do is raise my blood pressure, which is bad for my disease. I click "hug" on your posts about suffering and you return the favor by calling me insane. You clearly don't understand that the point of a support forum is for suicidal people to see each other's suffering, and use it as motivation to keep going. As much as I care about you not hurting yourself, I care about myself not hurting myself more. Good luck. Find a doctor. They have helped me.

 

[Juan]

I've heard some simply like his policy, not his personality, better than the alternative.

It seems Jimmy Kimmel returned from vacation not missing a beat from his bashing of our current President of the United States. Why doesn't he ever criticize or make fun of Biden or Harris? I know he's a Democrat but a talk show host should be more neutral imo.

Because Donald Trump is a renowned clown.

 

[Zugzug]

A look at recent history:

Trump Russia affair: Key questions answered

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

The Russia stuff is troubling for sure, but I am more concerned about our inability to vote through it.

 

[Luman]

They are a lot less to make fun of imo. I think that's why there's a perceived bias. Donald Trump constantly says outlandish things and has easily mockable traits. This isn't a bad thing necessarily but being easier and more entertaining to make fun is going to lead to that. For real, Biden isn't funny. He's boring and while he does have gaffes, he hasn't had a big one lately. During the primary they made fun of him for his gaffes.

Trump does not take himself seriously. While other presidents, when impeached, will apologize and plead for forgiveness, Trump just laughs. Well, I guess in his case, he had a right to, as he's still here. He may very well laugh all the way to and from the next inauguration, as well, if he is the one being sworn in. Anger at simple things is a sign of dementia, and Biden has that in spades. Whether he has the big D is not certain, let's see how he does at the debates when Trump tries to trigger him.

 

[FGG]

Trump does not take himself seriously. While other presidents, when impeached, will apologize and plead for forgiveness, Trump just laughs. Well, I guess in his case, he had a right to, as he's still here. He may very well laugh all the way to and from the next inauguration, as well, if he is the one being sworn in. Anger at simple things is a sign of dementia, and Biden has that in spades. Whether he has the big D is not certain, let's see how he does at the debates when Trump tries to trigger him.

I don't recall Trump laughing anything off ever or taking things in stride.

I know you said you don't look at Twitter but maybe you should peek at Trump's Twitter. This is not a calm guy in the least. It's near constant rage tweets.

 

[Born To Slay]

Trump does not take himself seriously. While other presidents, when impeached, will apologize and plead for forgiveness, Trump just laughs. Well, I guess in his case, he had a right to, as he's still here. He may very well laugh all the way to and from the next inauguration, as well, if he is the one being sworn in. Anger at simple things is a sign of dementia, and Biden has that in spades. Whether he has the big D is not certain, let's see how he does at the debates when Trump tries to trigger him.

Trump is pretty sensitive man. He's prone to Twitter tantrums and getting pissed off easily. Remember the meeting he had chuck and Nancy where he lost his temper in public?

but regardless, I'm not saying should take things more seriously. But until he does, I don't see no such can expect the press and comedy shows to treat him normal cause he just isn't. That's not always bad, I'm actually not saying this as a criticism. It just is.

 

[all to gain]

A look at recent history:

Trump Russia affair: Key questions answered

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

The problem with the Russian thing is that Russia will have meddled in every US election going since way back when Russia was part of the USSR. Russian meddling and US meddling are not new things. As far as I know meddling was never brought up at those times. Or maybe it was?

What it comes down to is to what degree has Russia influenced the 2016 campaign and is Trump in Putin's pocket. And it's really difficult to be precise about these things.

One thing for sure is that Trump's team should have had more sense than to be meeting etc Russians at the time of the elections. The (those) Russians are not their friends.

Putin will have something on Trump. But do you know what, it might be something that we would consider to be not that significant, but which Trump finds embarrassing. However, it could be something like Trump sleeping with a stunning woman, who is actually a man or it could be money dealings.

What is interesting is that there are reports of Biden's son receiving millions from the former mayor of Moscow's wife (the richest woman in Russia and a billonairess). If true, then the question is, should Biden be investigated for his Russian connections?

 

[PeteJ]

Just giving you a heads up that I am placing you on ignore. All you do is raise my blood pressure, which is bad for my disease. I click "hug" on your posts about suffering and you return the favor by calling me insane. You clearly don't understand that the point of a support forum is for suicidal people to see each other's suffering, and use it as motivation to keep going. As much as I care about you not hurting yourself, I care about myself not hurting myself more. Good luck. Find a doctor. They have helped me.

Comparing severe tinnitus to 'supporting Trump' is nuts.

I hope Luman joins you. You guys are the ones insulting people. Insulting Trump voters and tinnitus sufferers in the same post. Wow.

I know there's very few Trump supporters here but a few tinnitus sufferers don't want their suffering compared to politics/political affiliation.

 

[PeteJ]

Trump is pretty sensitive man. He's prone to Twitter tantrums and getting pissed off easily. Remember the meeting he had chuck and Nancy where he lost his temper in public?

but regardless, I'm not saying should take things more seriously. But until he does, I don't see no such can expect the press and comedy shows to treat him normal cause he just isn't. That's not always bad, I'm actually not saying this as a criticism. It just is.

He's good for the entertainment industry. I said he's in it "for show" but there's no evidence of that, is there?

 

[PeteJ]

The problem with the Russian thing is that Russia will have meddled in every US election going since way back when Russia was part of the USSR. Russian meddling and US meddling are not new things. As far as I know meddling was never brought up at those times. Or maybe it was?

What it comes down to is to what degree has Russia influenced the 2016 campaign and is Trump in Putin's pocket. And it's really difficult to be precise about these things.

One thing for sure is that Trump's team should have had more sense than to be meeting etc Russians at the time of the elections. The (those) Russians are not their friends.

Putin will have something on Trump. But do you know what, it might be something that we would consider to be not that significant, but which Trump finds embarrassing. However, it could be something like Trump sleeping with a stunning woman, who is actually a man or it could be money dealings.

What is interesting is that there are reports of Biden's son receiving millions from the former mayor of Moscow's wife (the richest woman in Russia and a billonairess). If true, then the question is, should Biden be investigated for his Russian connections?

I already posted about this but the liberals ignored it. I guess liberals regularly ignore facts that they don't like. I don't care about the posters who have me on ignore. They post the same tedious drivel anyway.

But, the Hunter Biden thing is alarming and if Trump's family was the ones involved instead, they would be posting the typical outrage rants.

Both candidates do the same thing but liberals are selective in what they evaluate and criticise. But, suggesting someone might be hypocritical is frowned upon here for some reason. I dunno why.

 

[all to gain]

Somehow we got everyone to wear shoes in businesses without cops.

Social shaming could have mostly solved this problem but instead from the onset we had the virus called a "hoax" and told that it would just go away.

And Trump repeatedly saying masks were optional and downplaying their importance.

Social shaming is how drunk driving got reduced in the US. Masks could be addressed the same way. Explain to people that their selflessness is literally killing people..

The same mixed mask message has been in place in the UK. In fact the UK seems to have made everything so complicated. There should just be some hard and fast rules.

Many people just can't be explained to. Where I am most shops have a no entry without a mask (and sometimes gloves). But fuck me, people enter without masks then get to the counter and then when the cashier doesn't want to serve them they kick up a fuss. One man, who I was behind in the queue and who was a big guy, was arguing with the very little girl behind the till. She refused to serve him. Man, I was on the verge of picking him up (literally, I have the skills LOL) and dumping him on his head. But she handled him brilliantly and got him to go and make a cutout mask for himself with the paper and scissors provided.

Unfortunately, many people are thoughtless and selfish, and no amount of explaining and shaming will change that. Some others are simply as thick as shit (scientific term in anthropology).

 

[Luman]

Trump is pretty sensitive man. He's prone to Twitter tantrums and getting pissed off easily. Remember the meeting he had chuck and Nancy where he lost his temper in public?

but regardless, I'm not saying should take things more seriously. But until he does, I don't see no such can expect the press and comedy shows to treat him normal cause he just isn't. That's not always bad, I'm actually not saying this as a criticism. It just is.

Twitter sounds like something that Peter Pan and Tinkerbell use, lol. How can anybody who is a man, take something like this, seriously? Trump is just pulling people's legs, it's a joke. Donald Trump is not unlike many businessmen, they're doers, not actors. I remember Chuck Schumer in Brooklyn, glad-handing voters at subway stations, when he first started over 40 years ago - he's so phony that it's amazing that he's still in politics. I am sure that Trump remembers him, as well. Schumer is the one that helped convicted child-stalker and pedophile porn fan, Anthony Weiner, get his start in politics. Their relationship was so ridiculously close that about 27 years ago, a local neighborhood newspaper ran a headline that Weiner was Schumer's illegitimate son, for their April Fool's edition. This was years before Weiner was arrested, convicted, and imprisoned. His wife, with her ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, was another piece of work. Weiner and his wife, who were associated with Hillary, and the text scandals, helped Trump win, big time. Now they're all paying the piper for the actions of these Democrats who ruined their party's credibility in 2016. They'll never learn, and the proof is, they've nominated a horrible ticket for the 2020 election.

 

[all to gain]

I already posted about this but the liberals ignored it. I guess liberals regularly ignore facts that they don't like. I don't care about the posters who have me on ignore. They post the same tedious drivel anyway.

But, the Hunter Biden thing is alarming and if Trump's family was the ones involved instead, they would be posting the typical outrage rants.

Both candidates do the same thing but liberals are selective in what they evaluate and criticise. But, suggesting someone might be hypocritical is frowned upon here for some reason. I dunno why.

I must have missed your post.

It certainly is alarming, and I would be interested to hear what others (especially those who will vote for Biden) think about this?

Just to reiterate, if Biden's son did receive payment of millions of dollars from this woman, who believe me will be as corrupt as hell, then Biden himself needs his links to Russia investigating.

Many rich Russians are or have been close supporters of Putin, or they are being used as a way for the Russian intelligence services to get dirt on important foreigners and or influence in that person's country.

This woman also has lots of ties to UK politicians. Really not good. What are they thinking? They seem to just see $ signs and not reality. Naive!!

 

[Born To Slay]

Twitter sounds like something that Peter Pan and Tinkerbell use, lol. How can anybody who is a man, take something like this, seriously? Trump is just pulling people's legs, it's a joke. Donald Trump is not unlike many businessmen, they're doers, not actors. I remember Chuck Schumer in Brooklyn, glad-handing voters at subway stations, when he first started over 40 years ago - he's so phony that it's amazing that he's still in politics. I am sure that Trump remembers him, as well. Schumer is the one that helped convicted child-stalker and pedophile porn fan, Anthony Weiner, get his start in politics. Their relationship was so ridiculously close that about 27 years ago, a local neighborhood newspaper ran a headline that Weiner was Schumer's illegitimate son, for their April Fool's edition. This was years before Weiner was arrested, convicted, and imprisoned. His wife, with her ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, was another piece of work. Weiner and his wife, who were associated with Hillary, and the text scandals, helped Trump win, big time. Now they're all paying the piper for the actions of these Democrats who ruined their party's credibility in 2016. They'll never learn, and the proof is, they've nominated a horrible ticket for the 2020 election.

Eh, Twitter tantrums are pretty common amongst celebs. And the way he complains on Twitter is just irresponsible.

Donald Trump is not a doer. How many things did he fail to accomplish even with his party in total control of Congress again? Healthcare, immigration and infrastructure at least? In fact, remember how he walked out of meetings with democrats on infrastructure because they refused to stop investigating him? Regardless of what I think of those investigations, that's just childish and shows that Trump is thin skinned.

Even if Chuck Schumer has problems, doesn't take away from the fact that Trump threw a tantrum on camera in public.

 

[Luman]

Eh, Twitter tantrums are pretty common amongst celebs. And the way he complains on Twitter is just irresponsible.

Donald Trump is not a doer. How many things did he fail to accomplish even with his party in total control of Congress again? Healthcare, immigration and infrastructure at least? In fact, remember how he walked out of meetings with democrats on infrastructure because they refused to stop investigating him? Regardless of what I think of those investigations, that's just childish and shows that Trump is thin skinned.

Even if Chuck Schumer has problems, doesn't take away from the fact that Trump threw a tantrum on camera in public.

He was right to not apologize before, during or after the impeachment.

I am very impressed at how the sellout Democratic Party embraces the enemy of their enemy, namely the Lincoln Project, a group of anti-Trump Republicans. Trump is hated by war hawk Republicans, I believe, because he is a man of peace, not war. It's ironic that the Democrats also became allies, as closely as possible under the circumstances, with Viet Nam POW Vet and all around obnoxious and difficult Republican, the late John McCain, whom Trump despised, probably with good reason.

I hope that Trump gets one of the Nobel Peace Prizes that he has been nominated for, he deserves one. He has done things, such as help broker and pass the Israeli-Arab peace deal, that nobody else ever has ever been able to, before. History will remember him as a great leader.

 

[FGG]

I must have missed your post.

It certainly is alarming, and I would be interested to hear what others (especially those who will vote for Biden) think about this?

Just to reiterate, if Biden's son did receive payment of millions of dollars from this woman, who believe me will be as corrupt as hell, then Biden himself needs his links to Russia investigating.

Many rich Russians are or have been close supporters of Putin, or they are being used as a way for the Russian intelligence services to get dirt on important foreigners and or influence in that person's country.

This woman also has lots of ties to UK politicians. Really not good. What are they thinking? They seem to just see $ signs and not reality. Naive!!

If they have proof Joe Biden was tied to anything nefarious they haven't released it at this point:

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

Hunter Biden's Ukraine Work Raised Concerns With Obama Officials, GOP-Led Probe Confirms

 

[all to gain]

If they have proof Joe Biden was tied to anything nefarious they haven't released it at this point:

Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden

Hunter Biden's Ukraine Work Raised Concerns With Obama Officials, GOP-Led Probe Confirms

Don't you find it really concerning though?

As someone who knows the Russian mindset like the back of my hand, I would consider this more than a little concerning.

 

[FGG]

Don't you find it really concerning though?

As someone who knows the Russian mindset like the back of my hand, I would consider this more than a little concerning.

What about what they have so far concerns you in regards to Joe Biden?

 

[Born To Slay]

He was right to not apologize before, during or after the impeachment.

I am very impressed at how the sellout Democratic Party embraces the enemy of their enemy, namely the Lincoln Project, a group of anti-Trump Republicans. Trump is hated by war hawk Republicans, I believe, because he is a man of peace, not war. It's ironic that the Democrats also became allies, as closely as possible under the circumstances, with Viet Nam POW Vet and all around obnoxious and difficult Republican, the late John McCain, whom Trump despised, probably with good reason.

I hope that Trump gets one of the Nobel Peace Prizes that he has been nominated for, he deserves one. He has done things, such as help broker and pass the Israeli-Arab peace deal, that nobody else ever has ever been able to, before. History will remember him as a great leader.

I'm not talking about an apology but for real? He walked out on an infrastructure deal because he didn't like them? That's the definition of childish and thin skinned.

Trump is not a man of peace. I'm kinda amazed that you can say that. Drone strikes are up substantially under Trump. We're still in all the countries we were in under Obama (who also was a fake dove). Most damning was when he vetoed a bill that would end American involvement in Yemen.

Seriously let that sink in, your man of peace vetoed a bill to end American involvement in one of the most disgusting conflicts on earth. The democrats wanted out of Yemen, some republicans even wanted out of Yemen but Trump made sure we'd keep supplying Saudi Arabia weapons of death that have been used against school children in Yemen. Trump doesn't need a peace prize, his foreign policy is just as gross as Obama's and Bush's.

 

[FGG]

My friend just texted me this

 

[Juan]

The Russia stuff is troubling for sure, but I am more concerned about our inability to vote through it.

What do you think of the distortion and fake news on social networks?

 

[all to gain]

What about what they have so far concerns you in regards to Joe Biden?

It's the fact that the son of the then Vice President was taking money from a very rich and influential Russian who will have ties to Putin and who will be tracked and maybe have ties to the Russian intelligence services.

If that doesn't ring alarm bells I don't know what would!! It really is something that younger Biden should not have been involved with and that older Biden should have knocked on the head.

Younger Biden will have talked to his father about these things and they may well have been recorded etc by the Russians and more.

If you think this is nothing, then you really don't understand how the Russians work.

 

[Juan]

The problem with the Russian thing is that Russia will have meddled in every US election going since way back when Russia was part of the USSR. Russian meddling and US meddling are not new things. As far as I know meddling was never brought up at those times. Or maybe it was?

What it comes down to is to what degree has Russia influenced the 2016 campaign and is Trump in Putin's pocket. And it's really difficult to be precise about these things.

One thing for sure is that Trump's team should have had more sense than to be meeting etc Russians at the time of the elections. The (those) Russians are not their friends.

Putin will have something on Trump. But do you know what, it might be something that we would consider to be not that significant, but which Trump finds embarrassing. However, it could be something like Trump sleeping with a stunning woman, who is actually a man or it could be money dealings.

What is interesting is that there are reports of Biden's son receiving millions from the former mayor of Moscow's wife (the richest woman in Russia and a billonairess). If true, then the question is, should Biden be investigated for his Russian connections?

Trump's businesses are full of dirty Russian money
29 mar. 2019 - Trump's businesses are full of dirty Russian money. The scandal is that it's legal. Shell companies put figures from Putin's Mafia into Trump Tower.​

Maybe someone who has a subscription to the Washington Post can read that one... and copy it here.

This one is very interesting:

Russian Government Bank Deposited $500 Million into Deutsche Bank Subsidiary as it Lent to Trump​