2024 US Presidential Election

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    1. Luman
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      What are you talking about, exactly?
       
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      Trump suggested the chemical disinfectant gets injected, that there's a cleaning inside, and it gets on the lungs and does a tremendous number. This horrified health experts. It speaks to Trump's low intelligence because most children would know better than that.
       
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      My point is that Trump is not too smart. You don´t inject bleach to fight a virus. It´s just stupid! Get it?

      So, I fact-checked it. He only suggested it. I guess he was trying to help out. LOL.
       
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      Please provide a quote in which he suggested injecting bleach.
       
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      "And then I see the disinfectant (bleach), where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

      Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

      "It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object."
       
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      Unfortunately, I’m not quiet at this time, especially upon awakening, but I still have some pain in my Eustachian tube and jaw when using my EarPopper. Others in a TMJ surgical support group say to give it a few more months for the inflammation to go down further. I put an ice pack on a few times a day.
      I think Trump-Vance will win quite easily. I just watched a Trump 2024 ad where he said he was going to take it to the cartels like he did with ISIS during his first term. We have way too many deaths from Fentanyl and other deadly drugs.

      I hope all is well for you and your family in Laos. I would guess it’s warm & humid there unless you’re in the mountainous area.
       
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      Trump did not use the word "bleach" - Biden said that Trump suggested it, and it was a lie.

      Trump is not a doctor, never claimed to be, and this was an off-the-cuff remark. If you think that he is stupid, that is in contrast to Elon Musk, one of the smartest men in the world, not to mention the wealthiest, who is endorsing him for president.

      Trump is on the path to beating Biden, and nothing short of a successful assassination will stop him.
       
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      We were told in 2016 that Biden did not want to run because he was mourning the loss of his son. This did not make sense; the son was dead, and a president must be able to function despite tragedy. Now it has been revealed that this was not true - he wanted to run, and the death of his son was used as an excuse by Obama and other top Democrats to choose Hillary as the nominee.

      I think that Biden could have beaten Trump in 2016, as Hillary was highly disliked and insulted a major part of the population by calling them "deplorable."

      I can understand why Biden is angry, and I hope he stays in the race.
       
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      Do you not understand that bleach is a disinfectant...?
      Do you think it takes a medical degree to understand that you do not inject disinfectants? I bet when they put 'DO NOT EAT' on the Tide Pods packaging, you were damning the liberals to hell and back for taking your favorite snack away.
      WHAT DO YOU MEAN IF????????????????????????

      Bro legitimately thinks the world operates on cartoon logic! Have you not heard his frigging rant about boats and sharks???
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      Oh my god, I can't. I am so done.
       
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      The truly funny thing about “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is that you use it as a pejorative to describe those who oppose Trump, wholly unaware that it better describes your own condition after being conned and swindled by a reality TV star for years. Denial is a powerful twister of logic and reasoning.
       
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      Why do Elon Musk and Franklin Graham endorse Trump, then? I think you have twisted, illogical reasoning. Are you in the U.S.? Are you gay or bi-sexual? The LGBTQ people seem to detest Trump for some reason.
       
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      Have fun with Trump - he is quite funny at times, whether deliberately or not, and there's room for that with virtually any candidate.

      If, however, you prefer war, open borders with millions upon millions of illegal aliens costing our cities billions, fentanyl smuggling by illegals, which causes 75,000 deaths a year, a strong possibility of do-nothing VP and failed Border Czar Kamala Harris becoming president at some point, vote BLUE. At this point, Biden is the projected loser, with very good reason.

      You chose to ignore the 700,000 additional COVID-19 deaths that took place during Biden's term, which is nearly twice the total that died during Trump's. All Democrat supporters are blinded by brainwashing. They never question Biden's leadership in any capacity, including the Ukraine-Russia war, handling of Iran, immigration, the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, inflation, etc. Whatever he does, according to his supporters, it's perfect. Of course, perfection is impossible for any president to achieve, but not to them. The fundamental dishonesty of the Democratic Party is like a mental disease, and the country will very likely change its course in November, so I would advise the Dems to buckle up and prepare for a major shakeup.
       
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      Biden dropped out and endorsed Kamala Harris.

      If Kamala is selected to run against Trump, which will probably be the case, that should be interesting. He has said that he wants to debate her.
       
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      Detest Trump? Most people feel that way about Trump, even idiots who will vote for him for partisan reasons. Just look at my previous posts for an idea of why; it only gets worse the more you know about Trump.
      That's bad news for the Republicans and Trump. Harris is far more intelligent and coherent than Trump, so I would like to see her debate him.
       
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      The problem is that Harris is also not a great candidate. She fell flat in previous VP debates, and—well, her history of dating an older gentleman in California to get her DA position, where she prosecuted drug offenses, hasn't exactly endeared her to many swathes of voters.

      It would be hilarious if her debate were taking quotes from Trump ranting about Hannibal Lecter and just being like, "wtf is this guy even saying."
       
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      Trump would more than likely steamroll the cackling, supposedly border czar Harris in a debate. I would like to see her debate Trump.
       
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      I'd beg to differ here. I don't recall another similarly intellectually challenged politician like Harris at this level. Even Biden, with some dementia, appeared sharper than her. Not that Trump isn't a moron, but he still has a better knack for speaking and debating. He is blathering but comes across better, which counts on TV. He also has dementia, which pulls him back. 2016-vintage Trump would completely destroy Harris. We'll see how it goes now.

      I so wish I did not have tinnitus and could enjoy this clown show with a clear mind.
       
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      Kamala Harris got her push in politics by having an affair with Willie Brown, the most powerful Democrat in California. He was older than her father and married. She was rewarded with cushy, lucrative, part-time public service appointments at the taxpayers' expense. She prostituted herself. There's no other way to put it.
       
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      I wonder who Kamala's running mate will be.
       
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      She can't win, regardless. Can you imagine her dealing with world leaders like Putin? She can't stop wars and cannot be the leader of the United States. Supporting abortion and insulting Trump is not enough.
       
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      I wouldn't rule her out just yet. The Democratic Party isn't exactly setting her up for success with such a chaotic nomination and rushed campaign – but she is polling slightly better with certain demographics than Biden.

      Regardless, it will be an interesting three months for people interested in US politics. Harris was largely invisible as VP, so I'm curious how she'll present herself.

      From a PR perspective, Senator Mark Kelly could be a good running mate. There have been some rumblings about Buttigieg, but I think that might be pushing it, considering that large parts of America are still very conservative regarding women and the LGBTQ community.
       
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      Kamala isn't the best there is, but Trump sets the bar so low with his repetitive blabbering and dementia full of misinformation and no substance. I was on to Trump way back in 2016 in the Republican Primary debates, although he actually turned out to be even worse as time went on through the end of his presidency and beyond.
      Kamala simply dated an older man for a while. Look at Trump, sexually assaulting women and joking about it, which is on a recording. Hush money to a porn star. We can go on and on.
      Oh, there's a lot more than that why people should vote for the Democratic candidate over Trump. See my earlier posts about healthcare, tariffs, NATO, climate change, and our democracy. Remember the wall that was going to be built that Mexico would pay for? Well, migrants are still coming across, and Trump killed the border deal that would have addressed the problem, so he's responsible for the current border crisis. And he did it strictly for political gain, not for the country. He only cares about himself.
      Those large parts are full of MAGA Trumpers, but what really matters is the swing states. And it looks like Harris is already doing as well or a little better than Biden was. Hopefully, after she gets out there campaigning and picks a VP, the needles move more in her direction, assuming she's the nominee, which isn't a certainty.
       
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      I came in here for @Luman's rants against Kamala. I was not disappointed.
       
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      Trump didn't kill the border bill. It never passed in the Senate and wasn't taken up in the House after Speaker Mike Johnson looked it over. H.R. 2, Secure the Border Act of 2023, was passed in May 2023 by the House, but Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats wouldn't even look at it. It was a comprehensive border bill, unlike the ridiculous one you mentioned.

      Biden and the Democrats caused the problem by reversing all of Trump's effective border policies starting on day 1. They want to import Democratic voters; it's that simple. TDS has affected your thinking.
       
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      Kamala prostituted herself to get cushy government appointments from Democrat Willie Brown, which he gave her. He did a press conference after the announcement that Biden would not be running, in which he said that Biden should leave office now, and allow her to become the president. This is not speculation or unproven accusations by get-rich-quick leeches - it is the truth. What Trump did or did not do with women, or whether he is self-absorbed at times, has nothing to do with his becoming the president, and keeping the country secure.

      Do you believe that Kamala Harris can handle a face-off with the likes of Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping?
       
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      You forget or didn't know that it was a bipartisan negotiated deal. Republicans were going to vote for it until Trump urged them not to pass it. See more information here.
      Actually, I think Trump's immoral character, along with his low intelligence, lies, bad policy, and threats to democracy, are all relevant to him being a bad president. He's already shown he doesn't care about the country or the U.S. Constitution. Yes, Kamala would be much more professional and effective than Trump.
       
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      You did not answer my question. Forget about Trump, for a minute. Do you believe that Kamala Harris could handle a face-off with the likes of Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping? A simple yes or no would suffice.
       
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      Trump is all these things, but I think one has to be blind to put such a confidence in the low-intelligence shameless opportunist like Harris.

      Speaking of democracy, the whole Biden bait-and-switch does not appear very democratic. Granted, the whole democracy in this country is a theater.
       
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      Harris has enough pledged delegates, so it looks like it's either Trump or her to be elected president. It's for the best that Biden decided to withdraw. He and Trump are both too old to serve four more years.
      I did answer - the last line of my previous post.
       
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      That answer was very vague. The question was not about comparing Harris to Trump. It asked whether she could effectively deal with dictators and strongmen such as Xi Jinping and Putin.
       
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