2024 US Presidential Election

[MindOverMatter]

Literally on Putin's side. Really disgusting.

It's unbelievable. Or maybe not, given Trump is in position again. He's always "had a thing" for dictators. Nevertheless, disgusting.

 

[Luman]

Literally on Putin's side. Really disgusting.

"Disgusting"? That's a laugh.

Why did Zelenskyy cancel the election in 2024, and declare martial law? This war has been going on for three years, and he does not want to do anything to end it.

A poll (Jan 2025) shows that Ukrainians' trust in President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dropped from 77% in late 2023 to 52% in late 2024.

Ukraine has trillions of dollars in natural resources, yet Biden gave this country hundreds of billions of our money, in aid. The corruption should be investigated, on both sides.

Zelenskyy needs to be replaced, but if he remains president he must given an ultimatum so that negotiations can begin.

 

[ZFire]

Russia started this invasion on Ukraine. No amount of Russian propaganda or lies will steal that truth away.

Why did Zelenskyy cancel the election in 2024, and declare martial law?

Imagine criticizing someone for declaring martial law in the midst of an ongoing war in their country, especially while they face brutal indiscriminate bombings from evil incarnate.

I won't bother with the rest of your predictable response (still think the US is just handing out paychecks to Ukraine huh?), but now that your cult leader has lied about Ukraine starting this war, you will also need to defend that by any means necessary.

It's unbelievable. Or maybe not, given Trump is in position again. He's always "had a thing" for dictators. Nevertheless, disgusting.

Agreed. Trump's infatuation with dictators has been known for a while. Honestly, what's also horrible about this, is that he is now spewing complete lies on how Ukraine started this war and is absolving Russia.

We're seriously living in a post-truth Orwellian reality within the US now (almost like 1984). Brainwashing and gaslighting people on a massive scale. You repeat a lie over and over again, it becomes truth. This is what Trump embodies.

The US is a lost cause at this point. I just hope Europe will start to rise up together in unifying fashion and help Ukraine till the end.

 

[grate_biff]

So, let me get this straight…

The USA wins World War II, then spends almost a lifetime doing everything in its power to achieve victory in the Cold War against Russia. It wins that as well, securing unchallenged power and dominance over much of the free world—and beyond.

Then, decades later, it throws all of that away because of some personal vendetta, buddying up with a dictator or whatever the hell this is?

And here we are.

We're all going to suffer to death from tinnitus anyway, so why should we care, right?

 

[Luman]

Trump had some things to say, this morning, about Zelenskyy, Ukraine, and peace negotiations. I will outline some of his key points.

Former comedian Zelenskyy got the United States to spend 350 billion dollars on a war that could not be won, should never have begun, and can not be settled without the United States. America has spent 200 billion dollars more than Europe, and while Europe's money is guaranteed, ours is not. Zelenskyy admits that half of the money sent by us is "missing".

Why is the United States paying so much, when this war is a far more critical issue for Europe?

Ukrainian presidential elections are held every five years. The last one was in 2019, and he canceled the presidential election in 2024, like any good dictator would.

Biden never tried to end the war.

Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, Ukraine is shattered and many have died.

 

[RunningMan]

Their budget resolution is indeed a joke, but this was to be expected if you had a brain, which many Americans don't have unfortunately.

Not only is there a $4.5T in tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy, but their budget also:

• Increases debt ceiling by $4 trillion.
• $300 billion in new spending for border security (including judiciary/immigration judges and border patrol)
• $880 billion in Medicaid program cuts
• 20% cut ($230 billion) in SNAP program funding
• Ending school breakfast and lunch program (very Christ-like!)
• $330 billion in education cuts

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GOP have actually managed to convince people that they are the party of working class families. Clown world.

Literally on Putin's side. Really disgusting.

After four disastrous years of Trump's first presidency, I knew how bad he was likely to be again, and I braced myself for the inevitable harm he would bring to the country this time around, but he has managed to exceed my worst expectations in record time.

 

[just1morething]

After four disastrous years of Trump's first presidency, I knew how bad he was likely to be again, and I braced myself for the inevitable harm he would bring to the country this time around, but he has managed to exceed my worst expectations in record time.

You're are nuttier than squirrel turds. TDS is real.

 

[Fields]

Former comedian Zelenskyy got the United States to spend 350 billion dollars on a war that could not be won, should never have begun, and can not be settled without the United States. America has spent 200 billion dollars more than Europe, and while Europe's money is guaranteed, ours is not. Zelenskyy admits that half of the money sent by us is "missing".

Fake news.

The US has sent roughly 110 to 120 billion USD in aid.

Europe has sent roughly 130 to 150 billion USD in aid (with another large amount yet to be allocated).

 

[Anomalous]

Americans: "Let's burn bridges with all of our friends and allies and start trusting the Russians!"

Meanwhile, the Russians:

Honestly, it is quite impressive what Putin has accomplished. He called the collapse of the Soviet Empire "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century". It's pretty obvious that he wants a restoration of the USSR. Now NATO is in shambles and Americans have an unfavourable view of Europe and a favorable view of him. Ukraine is his to take. All thanks to his disinformation campaign aimed at the US.

Meanwhile, China is taking notes and see that they can get Taiwan by making more and more Americans believe that Taiwan is ripping them off and not doing enough to defend themselves. All it takes is a few troll farms. It's a spectacular comeback for communism and authoritarianism.

Good job, America!

 

[ZFire]

Then, decades later, it throws all of that away because of some personal vendetta, buddying up with a dictator or whatever the hell this is?

Hillary Clinton was probably right. There must have been intel about Trump being compromised way back then.

Ukrainian presidential elections are held every five years. The last one was in 2019, and he canceled the presidential election in 2024, like any good dictator would.

Maybe you should do some research instead of parroting your cult leader's misinformation. Ukrainian law prohibits holding elections under martial law. The public supports a delayed election. Plus, Russia is currently occupying about 20% of Ukrainian territory, which means displaced voters in those regions. A major disruption to the voting process.

Meanwhile Putin, the actual dictator, has been in power for over 20+ years. They run sham elections every 6 years in Russia, where Putin wins 90% of the "vote". They don't even pretend to hide their ballet stuffing anymore. Putin also rewrote the Russian constitution so that he can 'reset' his term limits under some bullshit technicality.

But carry on-- Zelenskyy bad, Putin good.

After four disastrous years of Trump's first presidency, I knew how bad he was likely to be again, and I braced myself for the inevitable harm he would bring to the country this time around, but he has managed to exceed my worst expectations in record time.

Yeah, it's really bad. He is doing exactly what you think he would do. There's something new with this chaotic lunatic every day.

 

[grate_biff]

Finally, U.S. is respected in the world again!

 

[Luman]

Finally, U.S. is respected in the world again!

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If Zelenskyy does not want Trump to help stop the war, he can say so.

Trump is an expert negotiator and strategist, regardless of what the rest of the world thinks. Zelenskyy is a corrupt, power-hungry war monger.

Biden did nothing but throw money at Zelenskyy and Kamala had no plans to change these policies if she had won.

 

[ZFire]

A summary of the negotiations: