Agnostics “R” Us...

[JohnAdams]

I couldn't agree more Luman.....x
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But if Hell is real then telling them about it is the best thing that you can do.

I have decided that I'm not even going to go there with my son until he is closer to a teenager and even then I can't force him to believe anything, I can only share my beliefs with him and give him the choice over what to believe.

 

[just1morething]

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'Seems a trifle harsh.....I mean
....my neighbours wife is quite dishy'

Maybe you should go for it if your "equipment" still works? You can always CTC.

 

[Jazzer]

Maybe you should go for it if your "equipment" still works? You can always CTC.

CTC ??

 

[Lane]

I do not have a pickled clue whether god exists or not. Absolutely no conviction about that whatsoever.

Hey @Jazzer -- Just ran into this thread today. Was wondering if you've ever heard of the "Agnostic's Prayer"?

Dear God--If there is a God...
Please save my Soul--If there is a Soul...

I thought it was pretty cute. Kinda covers all bases, don't you think?

 

[Jazzer]

Hey @Jazzer -- Just ran into this thread today. Was wondering if you've ever heard of the "Agnostic's Prayer"?

Dear God--If there is a God...
Please save my Soul--If there is a Soul...

I thought it was pretty cute. Kinda covers all bases, don't you think?

Hi Lane
- I have thought about God/or no god, for years.
I guess I've just got tired of the whole bloody dilemma.
However long I deliberate on this issue, it will make no difference to my knowledge or give me any conviction.

Why talk to god at all if it's only ever going to be a monologue.
Relationship is all that counts. Dialogue.
As that is not possible - just wait and see.
And refuse to succumb to those lovely biblical threats of 'Hellfire and Damnation."
If that is your god - well it will never be mine.
If belief depends on 'imagination' - no thanks.
But thanks for calling in to speak to 'the opposition' buddy.
Dave x

 

[just1morething]

CTC ??

Choke the chicken.

 

[Lane]

And refuse to succumb to those lovely biblical threats of 'Hellfire and Damnation."

I rejected that way back when I was in grade school, even though it was being pounded into my head relentlessly. (Perhaps if they'd been more subtle about it, it might have been more affective against my racalcitrant nature).

If that is your god - well it will never be mine.

Nope, never has been, never will be.

But thanks for calling in to speak to 'the opposition' buddy.

Not sure why you would think I consider you the opposition, because I surely don't. I greatly respect your decision (and anybody's) to reject biblical or other spiritual dogma they don't agree with. I actually think it takes a lot of courage to do so, and really feels quite refreshing to me. Because most people--even those with doubts--choose to go along to get along. -- Not my nature; apparently not yours. No opposition here!

 

[Jazzer]

Choke the chicken.

 

[Jazzer]

I rejected that way back when I was in grade school, even though it was being pounded into my head relentlessly. (Perhaps if they'd been more subtle about it, it might have been more affective against my racalcitrant nature).

Nope, never has been, never will be.

Not sure why you would think I consider you the opposition, because I surely don't. I greatly respect your decision (and anybody's) to reject biblical or other spiritual dogma they don't agree with. I actually think it takes a lot of courage to do so, and really feels quite refreshing to me. Because most people--even those with doubts--choose to go along to get along. -- Not my nature; apparently not yours. No opposition here!

Nice response Lane - good to know you buddy.

Dave x
Jazzer

 

[Jazzer]

(.....er......I was never properly weaned...)

 

[Luman]

 

[Jazzer]

One of the most unpleasant stories (of many) in the Old Testament is that of God's instruction to Abraham to sacrifice his own son Isaac.
He was spared at the last minute, when a ram was substituted.
(Poor little ram.)
If any god told me to sacrifice my own son, he could get stuffed.
This story beautifully satirised in a couple of cartoons.

 

[Lane]

(Poor little ram.)

I always felt sorry for that poor little ram as well. Biblical stories aren't always particularly easy to accept for us'ns with a sensitive (and discriminating) nature. Though being sensitive and discriminating does have it's advantages. Like rejecting obvious nonsense before it ever has a chance to take root within ourselves.

I actually think it's takes a certain spiritual strength to do that, even though it's often portrayed as a weakness from "lack of faith". What I think is weakness is blindly accepting manipulative dogma from churches that are often no more than political organizations with some very selfish interests.

Hmmm, it might be possible I got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

 

[Jazzer]

I always felt sorry for that poor little ram as well. Biblical stories aren't always particularly easy to accept for us'ns with a sensitive (and discriminating) nature. Though being sensitive and discriminating does have it's advantages. Like rejecting obvious nonsense before it ever has a chance to take root within ourselves.

I actually think it's takes a certain spiritual strength to do that, even though it's often portrayed as a weakness from "lack of faith". What I think is weakness is blindly accepting manipulative dogma from churches that are often no more than political organizations with some very selfish interests.

Hmmm, it might be possible I got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

Actually @Lane none of it bothers me as I see it all as mythology of course.

 

[Daniel Lion]

Choke the chicken.

Love this thread

 

[Jazzer]

 

[Luman]

 

[Jazzer]

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How can leaders from different faiths, with totally opposing views on how life should be lived, possibly celebrate diversity.

To me that is complete Nonsense !!!

 

[Jazzer]

 

[Jazzer]

(what I've got to look forward to)

 

[Jazzer]

 

[Jazzer]

 

[JaiSea]

Choke the chicken.

Well, the real question here is
Do you believe Lt Columbo's first name is Philip?

 

[JaiSea]

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This really happened.

In a library here, a person of religion X comes in and says to the librarian
"you should get rid of all books that do not agree with the scripture of my religion, because it say so in the book".
The librarian who was well read, said "no, it is not in your book" and informed the geyser where the quote came from.

 

[just1morething]

Well, the real question here is
Do you believe Lt Columbo's first name is Philip?

I thought it was Frank?

 

[JaiSea]

I thought it was Frank?
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It would seem that way, here's an article discussing this
https://columbophile.com/2018/03/18/was-lieutenant-columbos-first-name-really-frank/

 

[Jazzer]

Nice to show a bit of gratitude......x

 

[Jazzer]

Nobody much comes on this site.
I believe 'questioning the reality of faith' is seen as something scarey - blasphemous.

I question everything with a healthy scepticism.

 

[Daniel Lion]

I was just recalling some religious jokes that are hilarious. Mostly about Judaism and Christianity. The raunchy ones are really funny... because there disturbing and cut to unconformable truths, no pun intended.

 

[Jazzer]