Have you tried coming off anti-depressants before? How long have you been on them?
I did yeah. Some small things in my right ear but it cleared up quite a lot of other stuff so can say for me it was a lifesaver.
I'm glad it worked so well for you. Could you tell me when your new noise appeared? How long had you been taking Sertraline when it appeared? Did you stop the treatment and that new tone never left even after stopping Sertraline?
It came quite quickly after going on 100mg and is still there In a sense when it's quiet. I used sertraline for about 5 months at a 50mg level. Then discontinued and started using Modafinil instead which has been nothing short of amazing.
I have successfully tapered off antidepressants before. I have used antidepressants back when my father died suddenly in 2011. I was only 15 back then and I couldn't manage the extreme grief without them. I stopped using them in 2013. I don't remember what antidepressants I used but I know they were the hormonal type. I also had a plethora of side effects like extreme weight gain and lack of emotions but those resolved by themselves after I slowly got off them.
Thanks for that.I have successfully tapered off antidepressants before. I have used antidepressants back when my father died suddenly in 2011. I was only 15 back then and I couldn't manage the extreme grief without them. I stopped using them in 2013. I don't remember what antidepressants I used but I know they were the hormonal type. I also had a plethora of side effects like extreme weight gain and lack of emotions but those resolved by themselves after I slowly got off them.
I started using antidepressants again in 2016 when I got tinnitus, hyperacusis and hearing loss besides suffering the loss of my brother-in-law in 2015 who I was very close to and my dog died of cancer so that was a lot to deal with at the time and I made the mistake of starting to use the antidepressant medication again. I have now successfully been coming off the antidepressants again over these last couple of months. I have lessened my dose of Paroxetine from 2 tablets to half a tablet a day without any side effects. As a matter of fact, I now have less anxiety than I had with a higher dose and my weight is slowly coming off.
I received my 5-HTP today. This brand if anyone is interested:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tablets-Months-Griffonia-Extract-Nutravita/dp/B07K46Z7QK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2BICZU5MJH3XJ&keywords=nutravita+5-htp&qid=1573635827&sprefix=nutravita+5+htp,aps,437&sr=8-5
And as of today I am coming off Paroxetine completely and using 5-HTP to replace it.
I will report the results and how I feel in this forum. However, coming off Paroxetine is just 1 part of my plan. Next I will try to slowly taper off Risperidone and replace it with GABA.
As of how I learned about 5-HTP and GABA I have to say I did all the research myself just like I am forced to do often these days. Nobody gave me any useful or legit advice because legal drug dealers that are psychiatrists always just know how to increase the dose of the same antipsychotics and antidepressants that don't work in the first place. If there is anything wrong with your state, they don't replace them, they don't offer natural alternatives, they don't give a single fuck about how you are feeling. They just do their bidding for corrupt medical industry, the same industry that offers antidepressants and antipsychotics to young children, in other words, damaging the brains and poisoning their minds. So I had no other choice, but look for natural alternatives myself and 5-HTP was one of the most well reviewed, a scientifically proven way to naturally increase serotonin without a plethora of side effects that antidepressants and antipsychotics have.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-htp-benefits
Also coming off Prozac is no joke but I would advise for you to try 5-HTP, it for example has the same mechanism of action as Prozac increasing serotonin as a natural amino acid without extreme dependence and side effects. There are natural alternatives. There are ways to improve your mental state without resorting to heavy psychotic drugs so I would advise you to be strong and look for them. I support you all the way and want to wish you best of luck.
So I did take my first dose of 5-HTP yesterday along with Vitamin B complex which increases its bioavailability and I have very mixed feelings, on the one hand, it completely eliminated my anxiety. I mean gone completely gone and I had pretty severe anxiety so that was a blessing. I haven't been anxiety-free since 2016 and it did improve my mood a lot and bring me a lot of happiness, but on the other hand that mood improvement seemed more like I was high on hardcore drugs, it didn't really feel natural or organic, it even seemed like it was hard to distinguish reality at times. As far as my sleep goes it was hard to fall asleep, but then I did get some quality sleep with very vivid and realistic dreams. And I also experienced some side effects like nausea and pressure in my head, some people say it's a pretty common side effect until your body gets used to extra serotonin and that it goes away in a week or so. I will see. For now I will keep the dose at one tablet a day and if the side effects continue I will lower the dose to half the tablet.
Sorry but there's no way 5-HTP caused all those effects for you just after one dose.
It's possible I guess,but I'm not placebo kind of guy. I have used NR for three months after multiple forum members said that it improved their hearing and tinnitus and sincerely believed with all my heart that it would improve my hearing, but it didn't do anything useful for me. I have used Curcumin for 3 to 4 months believing that it will guarantee improve my hearing by increasing BDNF and restoring my neurons, but it didn't do jackshit as far as hearing improvement goes so I'm not really the type of person that really feels the placebo effect.
I *also* had a very weird and immediate reaction to a single dose of Lexapro. My pupils changed (my mother was also there and observed it as well) and I got twitchy and a sunburn type nerve pain. I thought at first it must have been an allergic reaction but then I tried another SSRI and I also had strange similar immediate side effects.It's possible I guess,but I'm not placebo kind of guy. I have used NR for three months after multiple forum members said that it improved their hearing and tinnitus and sincerely believed with all my heart that it would improve my hearing, but it didn't do anything useful for me. I have used Curcumin for 3 to 4 months believing that it will guarantee improve my hearing by increasing BDNF and restoring my neurons, but it didn't do jackshit as far as hearing improvement goes so I'm not really the type of person that really feels the placebo effect.
I took the second dose of 5-HTP today and there are objective side effects I experienced. My leg twitched today, my family members were nearby when that happened so that's an objective fact. My pupils also got larger than they usually are, my family was also the witnesses of it. I also feel high as hell second day in a row in the way that I didn't feel even from serious antipsychotics and antidepressants and my happiness has once again turned to emotional numbness so if those side effects don't subside fast I think it's fair to say my 5-HTP experiment was a complete failure and I have to stop taking it or significantly lower the dose.
Can anybody even tell me is there any interaction between Risperidone and 5-HTP? I checked all of the websites for interactions and they said there isn't, but I'm starting to doubt it.
I'm starting to think that slowly lowering the dose of my antipsychotic medication and going cold turkey is the way to go. I don't want to feel high. I want to feel normal. I want to feel like my old self again. I want to experience the multitude of feelings again, not synthetic happiness or emotional numbness.
Fuck I miss my old self before I damaged my hearing. That happy, confident guy that was full of joy, physically and emotionally fit for life and enjoyed life like hell is pretty much dead. Fucking tinnitus and hearing loss and psychological disorders that were mediated by heavily psychotic drugs and loss of closest of my family members have ruined all of that. I'm suffering so much and my doctors don't seem to give a single care.
Thank you for your support and encouraging words. I really hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel. This hearing loss really created a butterfly effect of problems for me. I hope we will have hearing loss and tinnitus cured in the next 5-10 years with so many serious players in the game like Frequency, Audion, Hough Ear, Decibel, Otonomy and now Pipeline Therapeutics that work on multiple ways to address hearing loss including hair cell regeneration, synapse and spiral ganglion neurons regeneration or auditory neuron regeneration. I think hope is still alive especially with the pace technology is progressing right now.
In my opinion it's quite possible/probable your side effects were from abruptly quitting anti depressants. The brain needs time to re-adjust. If you can see a doctor (psychiatrist maybe) familiar with how to taper, do that.
I've had some brain zaps over the last few months, but not every few seconds. They are terrifying!! Bring my head completely off of the pillow!
Fuck I miss my old self before I damaged my hearing. That happy, confident guy that was full of joy, physically and emotionally fit for life and enjoyed life like hell is pretty much dead. Fucking tinnitus and hearing loss and psychological disorders that were mediated by heavily psychotic drugs and loss of closest of my family members have ruined all of that. I'm suffering so much and my doctors don't seem to give a single care.
Unfortunately brain zaps can hang around long after the medication leaves the body, many people can experience brain zaps for years. Yes years!! I have had brain zaps continuously for over 8 months now, roughly 8 an hour.
This is a really heavy burden. I'm sorry you are going through this. What a mess.
I remember you talking about not all ototoxic drugs being the same. I can't find the post and thread where you said it, but what does it mean in terms of future treatments/cures if my tinnitus was brought on by a reaction to an SSRI? I think you said that it doesn't mean the hair cells were damaged. If not what could the upcoming possible future drug treatments do for me?
If you have no other hearing issues, whether on extended audiogram or speech in noise problems, then maybe screwing with your neurotransmitters with antidepressants affected your GABA/glutamate balance and your receptors. Note: this is just my speculation. As far as treatment for this perhaps time or maybe Otonomy OTO-313 may help this.
If you had an abnormal extended audiogram, it would suggest damaged hair cells.
Amen. Addiction psychiatrists told me that only now they are starting to see the long term effects of pregabalin. It was marketed as a wonder drug initially. For me it turned out to be an ongoing horror story
Gabapentin is turning out to be the same horror story, this is not surprising as they are both gabapentinoids. I was informed pregabalin was the lesser of the two evils years ago but from what I have read and heard both drugs can cause horror stories just like Benzodiazepines.
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