Best Guess on When Tinnitus Will Be Cured?

[Contrast]

I believe some forms of T will be cured in 10-15 years. For instance I believe we will see a cure for T caused by acustic trauma after which hair cells remain intact but synapses get demaged (cochlear synaptopathy) I see a potential in what Decibel therapeutics is doing in this field. IMHO this will be the first type of T to be cured, perhaps other types of T will follow once they manage to regrow hair cells with a use of stem cells/gene therapy.

I would like to ask you all a question, How many of you have tinnitus as a result of hearing loss e.g it is detectable on audio gram? Hair Cells Restoration seems promising for those who having hearing loss but my tinnitus seems to have no detectible reason - not sure if should feel better or worse.

I am subscribed to that school of thought of hearing loss restoration being therapeutic for both tinnitus and hyperacusis. I am interested to see how it will fare in Frequency Therapeutics trial

 

[TomPearson]

I have a good feeling that while a "cure" will never be found, a daily medication will be created that either reduces the volume or removes it completely.

Why cure the condition when you can make more money treating it?

 

[Contrast]

susan shores device and frequency therapeutics and experimental epilepsy drugs may provide real help in 5-15 years.

I dont know about a total cure for everyone, but reduction yes.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

I have a good feeling that while a "cure" will never be found, a daily medication will be created that either reduces the volume or removes it completely.

I agree that a complete cure will never be found for all as thousands of physical conditions can play into tinnitus. Research has found all the physical reasons and there are many treatments available, but the medical community and insurance carriers won't spend the time or money on everyone because of $ and profits.

I'm not sure how hearing loss restoration will play out, but safe non benzo medications to control stress, depression with also a focus on GABAa is on the way and will be available in 2019 and I see this as a welcoming first step.

 

[jamino]

Once AI can utilise all available scientific studies in all languages everywhere in the world, translate and process that data meaningfully and conclude common characteristics of the most promising treatments, adding its own ideas and thought experiments at a rate 100,000 times faster than any human could ever do, then a cure, or actually more likely a multitude of cures (medically intervention-based or otherwise) will pop into existence. And cures for a great many other things as well. This will probably all happen within the next 15 years I should think.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@jamino I agree that AI would be helpful, but their are over 50 medical tests beyond a MRI or CT that may be needed to be used to determine the exact nature of one's physical tinnitus. There are also some methods and treatment that can help some with tinnitus from hearing loss.

A large percentage of those with tinnitus also have physical input. All of the physical inputs are known to researchers. There's a few things that can greatly have involvement to someone that already has tinnitus. Of course loud noise is high on the list, but also is forward head bending and posture. Posture would also include mouth movements. The immune systems also plays a big role as infection and bacteria is not a friend for those with tinnitus.

 

[PanM]

Bets everyone?

 

[Allan1967]

STOP saying there will NEVER be a cure!

Are you telling me that in 300 years time there won't be? Sure... we won't be around to see it but others will and we can be looked back on as being the pioneers of that cure.

That's if we PUSH for a cure. Sitting around saying there won't be one WON'T make one happen.

The more you keep telling yourselves there won't be one, there won't be one. You reap what you sow.

Change the tune!

Change it to:

'I'm going to die trying'... then get off your arses, get your hands in your pockets and give what you can to those researchers that need it. A little every month.

And if you can't do that - email the government; TV Shows; ANYONE... sign petitions; share petitions; organise fundraisers... do something other than sitting on your backside spending your money on snake oil.

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

And think of this - if you have children... don't you want a world for your descendants that's free of tinnitus?

 

[Allan1967]

Daft note - we've all watched Star Trek right?

Gene Roddenberry had in his early shows items back then [in the days of William Shatner] that most people thought impossible - space flight; space stations; transponders. All things that humanity then went on to develop [transponders - mobile phones].

I saw one episode where the Chief of Engineering came back from a fire fight/explosions... told the doctor he was deaf - she put a pair of headphones on him and two minutes later his hearing was restored.

What do we have now? Neuromod headphones. Frequency Therapeutics... looking to regenerate human hair cells.

It's just a matter of time. The question is how long?

 

[Allan1967]

A Karl, Erik & Joe Cooperative in 2015

It is complex with many variants as to the mechanism by the looks of it but there's already the ANM device that does help some and there are already drugs that calm over-active neurons and thus make it quieter.

If they would put their backs into it and got some decent funding then surely in the next 10 years?

Yes... but who is going to fund this @Louise?

I'll tell you who... the tinnitus community. If they get THEIR backs into it.

We're all sitting around hoping and waiting for someone else to do it for us - stop - its not going to happen any time soon - UNLESS we make it happen.

 

[Drone Draper]

I think before we come up with a "cure", we'll have ruined the planet.

Don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but it's how I feel. It's like with male pattern baldness. I keep hearing about how a cure is "in 5 years" or "in 10 years". It's always in the relatively near future.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Are you telling me that in 300 years time there won't be?

Seeing how the standard of living has been collapsing everywhere, I think that in 30 years we will have Venezuela's healthcare system (and everything else). So, NO - if there won't be a cure within the next 5-10 years, there will likely never be a cure, as things are all downhill from here.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I think before we come up with a "cure", we'll have ruined the planet.

It is the ideas like the one above that will get us Venezuela's healthcare system.

 

[Bill Bauer]

if you have children... don't you want a world for your descendants that's free of tinnitus?

Your children are going to have much bigger problems than tinnitus. It is already too late to change that.

 

[Jack Straw]

Cure will prob be a LONG time, but treatments to reduce it will be out within 5 years guaranteed.

 

[Alex Matyjasek]

Cure will prob be a LONG time, but treatments to reduce it will be out within 5 years guaranteed.

It all comes down to neurostimulation. If that doesn't give us the results we are all waiting for, it's gonna be a long time...

 

[Allan1967]

Seeing how the standard of living has been collapsing everywhere, I think that in 30 years we will have Venezuela's healthcare system (and everything else). So, NO - if there won't be a cure within the next 5-10 years, there will likely never be a cure, as things are all downhill from here.
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What goes down goes up Bill. Who knows what'll happen in the next few decades?

 

[Paulmanlike]

I think that bi-modal neuromodulation will be an effective treatment for the next 5 years and it may continue to get better as the right set of parameters come out.

After 5 years, hair cell regeneration will also be a major player in treating or curing tinnitus.

Remember there's huge money to be made on effective treatments that will drive the market. More new treatments will come as they are starting to understand more how tinnitus comes about.

 

[Bill Bauer]

What goes down goes up Bill.

Some changes are irreversible.

 

[Fabrikat]

Seeing how the standard of living has been collapsing everywhere, I think that in 30 years we will have Venezuela's healthcare system (and everything else). So, NO - if there won't be a cure within the next 5-10 years, there will likely never be a cure, as things are all downhill from here.

I love your fatalism Bill. You will never be disappointed.

 

[Ken219]

Cure will prob be a LONG time, but treatments to reduce it will be out within 5 years guaranteed.

From your lips to g-d's ears.

 

[dpdx]

Seeing how the standard of living has been collapsing everywhere, I think that in 30 years we will have Venezuela's healthcare system (and everything else). So, NO - if there won't be a cure within the next 5-10 years, there will likely never be a cure, as things are all downhill from here.
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This is so true.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I love your fatalism Bill.

Twenty five years ago I knew that things were going to get bad, and things got bad (although I have to admit that I couldn't have imagined that things were going to get This bad).

 

[Fabrikat]

Twenty five years ago I knew that things were going to get bad, and things got bad (although I have to admit that I couldn't have imagined that things were going to get This bad).

Well I guess I know what you mean. But remember too that twenty five years ago there was no cure for HIV/AIDS. Then as you rightly predicted, things got bad but they still managed to (sort of /near enough to a cure) stop people from dying of HIV/AIDS.

Human ingenuity can still prevail even when things get bad is my point.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Human ingenuity can still prevail even when things get bad is my point.

Not according to the movie Idiocracy.

 

[Fabrikat]

Not according to the movie Idiocracy.

Not seen that one. I'll have to check it out. Always prepared to have what little optimism I have left beaten out of me!

 

[Bill Bauer]

I'll have to check it out.

It's a classic (and I am not being sarcastic).
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

 

[GlennS]

This is another thread that can't help but veer into politics (or religion if you want to classify as visions of the future as a form of religion).

The terminology of "cure" is the problem, folks. If T is knocked back enough that you barely notice it during the course of your day, for all intents and purposes it's a cure. That appears far more feasible via neuromodulation than a complete cure.

Anything that requires regenerating tissue ala frequency therapeutics is firmly in sci-fi territory. Hooking yourself up to a glorified ipod is an extremely lo-fi solution in comparison. Not that neurostimulation doesn't require R&D--it does, but it's a hell of a lot easier a leap. It's like the difference between the challenge of Lindbergh flying across the Atlantic vs. landing on the moon.

Just think of all the other conditions for which regeneration would represent a cure. Paralysis, arthritis, etc... I'm sure everyone in those communities are following their own Frequency Therapeutics type research projects and crossing their fingers. But it's just not a realistic thing to pin your hopes on.

 

[Striveon]

@jamino I agree that AI would be helpful, but their are over 50 medical tests beyond a MRI or CT that may be needed to be used to determine the exact nature of one's physical tinnitus. There are also some methods and treatment that can help some with tinnitus from hearing loss.

A large percentage of those with tinnitus also have physical input. All of the physical inputs are known to researchers. There's a few things that can greatly have involvement to someone that already has tinnitus. Of course loud noise is high on the list, but also is forward head bending and posture. Posture would also include mouth movements. The immune systems also plays a big role as infection and bacteria is not a friend for those with tinnitus.

Method and treatments that can help tinnitus from hearing loss?? What are they??

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@Striveon My dear friend for you as we discussed known cause/reason by PM - veins and arteries - physical blood flow and oxygen supply is where you should consider focus. Antioxidants including resveratrol may help to control COX-2 expression. B12 for control. For you, a little vitamin A from food may help. D3 proper levels is a must.

When arteries and cranial nerves are under stress, hypermobility within neck, jaw - TMJ, face, lips and thyroid may become troubled as muscles and bones tend to weaken. High cholesterol can happen so foods to help control this may help. The only way to know for sure would be by a stand up MRI. TENS treatment for your neck may help you. Don't try to move your neck beyond resistance. Keeping your lower front teeth inline with upper front teeth may help.

Both MuteButton or Susan Shore may help.