MemberI developed mine through listening to ipod loudly. It would come on late at night and then vanish in the morning. I thought nothing of it. They were warnings.
Don't Ever Lose Hope!
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I developed mine through listening to ipod loudly. It would come on late at night and then vanish in the morning. I thought nothing of it. They were warnings.
I really do understand how you feel dpdx. I've lived through some extremely traumatic events that I never thought I'd ever get over, and this was all before I acquired severe T. When my T took over my entire brain it nearly finished me off, so to say I struggled would be an insult. I wanted to die. I couldn't handle the pain I felt in any way; it was too much for me to cope with. Then just to rub salt into my wounds I knew I had to quit my music career at my peak; something my whole life was dedicated to was ripped away from me.
I can feel your emotional turmoil. I reply to you because I don't like to see people feeling how I have felt. The pain is too much. I'm trying to offer you a glimpse into how my story unfolded, as encouragement, because sometimes things don't turn out anything like what we think they will. This is not to rub your face in the fact that I feel better which is one way it could be interpreted.
Stay strong.
Suzerman
Member
- Dec 8, 2017
- 117
- Tinnitus Since
- 10 october 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Probably a mix of ETD and TMJ
I still think mine is also possibly related to an exposure of noise, but my hearing test came back flawless, which made me doubt that. Just be careful with your ears from now on, and I really think they should be able to do something if it's from water irrigation alone. Maybe there is fluid stuck in your ear that needs to come out still
my audiogram was also perfect but I had T, after caloric test I got mild hearing loss.
Did it lower? Is it the same still?
It no longer bothers me. The emotional connection we make early on is critical to how we perceive it in my opinion.
There's no objective way for me to say if it's lower or not, but I don't think it is.
If anything, it's worse as a recent MRI gave me an extra tone in my left ear.
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
Actually i did get tested with Vega and yes I'm Lyme positive..but I still think my T was noise induced...could be a combination I guess.
Getting treated with bi-con (bioresonance) and I'm about three quarters there...T is very mild now and seems to be fading.
Vega testing is nonsense, unfortunately. In the scientific world it is highly discredited as it is entirely based on pseudoscience. Bioresonance is also an alternative therapy with no scientific backing whatsoever. It's no different to homeopathy.
The most common test for Lyme disease is the ELISA test, but no test is reliable.
Coming back to the Vega machine, the first time I ever heard of one was when my wife's sister unwittingly got ripped off by someone doing an allergy test using one of those machines. It angers me as it can put peoples lives at risk as one may have a legitimate life-threatening allergy that could be totally misdiagnosed by one of these charlatans. Both me and my wife warned her after reading the ladies website (the so called expert) that the results are all made up and mean nothing.
I hope you didn't pay a lot of money @Wolfears, and I hope you aren't continuing to pay money either.
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Loads of loud noise. Gigs, band rehearsals, night clubs, etc. It all caught up with me in the end after 13/14 years of mild T. One day, I was at a stupidly loud, local bar gig, and I suppose it was the straw that broke the camels back.
Two days later I had a head full of noise that I couldn't mask. A really shrill, high frequency, dentist drill filling my head. Another tone in my right ear, a low drone in my left ear, and loads of hissing and static underneath it all. I also get zaps around my brain although this is less common nowadays.
To me at the time it wasn't just devastating as in me wanting to end my life, but it took my passion away: live music.
This double whammy made it an incredibly difficult time in my life. I can't emphasise enough how shit I felt.
What does it mean if your T lowers and comes back up. I think my T is fluctuating now.
It means nothing really. T can and will behave very randomly for most people. Mine used to violently fluctuate. Nowadays, it fluctuates but not as bad as it used to. My theory for this is that I don't feed it any emotional attention anymore. But, that's a theory. I have no idea.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
This makes me feel even worse about getting T as a result of an exposure to a loud noise that lasted a Fraction of a second...
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
If the trend is for it to gradually get quieter, then it means that there is a good chance that your T will continue getting quieter. If you have been protecting your ears, then Ed's experiences (recall that has hasn't been protecting his ears) might not be relevant for you.
I've protected my ears more than the Colonel's secret recipe. I don't wear earplugs 24/7 if that's what you mean? However, I'm very careful around loud noise and ALWAYS protect my ears.
- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
I think I recall you saying that it is ok to attend pubs with loud music or even attend concerts, provided one uses earplugs. This, despite numerous reports that plugs can provide only a false sense of security around live music.
- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
I am just answering his questions. In this case, I explained why I thought that he hasn't been protecting his ears - we might have different ideas about what it means to protect our ears.@Bill Bauer are you baiting ed with your questions?Stop being so naughty.....
I never asked any questions
, and I'm not getting drawn into another pointless debate. You can say whatever you want Bill, go ahead, it's fine with me 
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- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
It's all a matter of opinion my friend..for being "nonsense", it is very consistent.
For example when it says that I have allergy for tomatoes, it also beeps when a ketchup sample is presented...of course that's not the only thing why I believe it is accurate (I actually got tested through conventional methods with almost identical result), but the german scientists who forwarded the idea (in the late 60's I think), that every pathogen, bacteria, cell or virus has it's own unigue frequency were no idiots..it only makes sense.
If course the mainstream medical community is trying to discredit this technology because if you get cured, there is no money to be made by big pharma...in other words it is not in their best interest.
Are there charlatans out there who are using "alternative" medicine and giving it a bad name?
Sure they are...just like every profession you will find your bad apples...but in general most of the so called "alternative" practitioners are very knowledgeable and are driven by their desire to actually cure the cause, instead of treating the symptom and prescribibg poisonous, addictive pills with horryfying side effect, who's exact mechanisms of action are't fully understood even by their manufacturers themselves.
As a matter of fact he chances of the mainstream so called "professionals" of further hurting you is pretty high, as they dont think twice about putting various poisons inside your body..find out why Chuck Norrise's wife almost died after getting an MRI for example.
Lucky for them they had the finances to seek alternative treatment and were sucessfull at saving her life.
I also personally know of someone who was dragged through hell and back for about 5 years, because the clueless idiots and trained pill prescribers they call themselves doctors were ynable to diagnose that she had Lyme.
Guess who cured her?
Same guy that is now treating me..she is now living a happy life and she has been Lyme free for 3 years.
Not looking to get into a big drawn out argument about conspiracies here, but for myself the evidence is clear.
The only nonsense I see, is coming from the mainstream medical community, with their "suck it up" and learn to live with it (and take a pile if benzos and antidepressants along with you)...
The problem with allergies though is that there's nothing the pharmaceutical industry can really do. So it makes no difference to conventional medicine whatsoever.
If you believe it that's fine. I'm just suggesting that any one else reading this give Vega testing a wide berth and to save their money. I have read a few published papers on this and they all conclusively prove that it's totally ineffective.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC26588/
A small excerpt:
This double blind, randomised block design study, which comprised over 1500 observations, showed that electrodermal testing could not distinguish atopic from non-atopic individuals. No operator was more reliable than any other, and no participants were consistently correctly diagnosed.
As IgE dependent food allergy—for example, to milk, eggs, or nuts—has the same pathophysiological basis as mucosal responses to aeroallergens, we conclude that the Vegatest is an inappropriate tool for diagnosing any form of immediate hypersensitivity. However, we recognise that electrodermal testing, when used to assess "antigens" in a non-blinded manner, is usually used to evaluate food intolerance rather than to diagnose allergies in the traditional sense of the term.8 We did not investigate food intolerance, partly because there is no universally recognised conventional test for food intolerance against which to evaluate electrodermal testing. Nevertheless, it should be possible to design an appropriate trial to study the diagnostic usefulness of the Vegatest for food intolerance reported by patients, although it is difficult to envisage a unifying mechanism to explain how the test would be able to detect this heterogeneous group of disorders. Furthermore, we recognise that electrodermal testing was developed to aid the prescription of homoeopathic and herbal remedies and not primarily as an allergy test; we made no attempt to evaluate these claims.1 The phenomena involved in electrodermal testing may make it difficult to evaluate in an entirely blind manner, as the person conducting the test may be an important part of the process.2,3 Such issues can be addressed by appropriate randomised, controlled trials. We conclude that electrodermal testing cannot diagnose allergy to common aeroallergens such as cat dander and house dust mite—allergens that have a strong association with atopic respiratory disorders such as asthma, rhinitis, eczema, and conjunctivitis.
Another article:
A 2003 investigation by the BBC sent subjects to undergo Vega testing at different health food shops in the UK, and reported that test results varied from store to store. The report revealed that one subject was allergic to 33 different types of food, with only three being agreed upon by the testers across stores. Further, one reporter was told he needed to take a total of 20 different vitamins and minerals. But again, the testers couldn't seem to agree and all three testers advised different supplements.
When the manufacturer, Health Screen International (HSL), were asked to explain themselves they said that the Vega machine is only about 70% accurate and "It does stretch the imagination how the Vega test works…But we have thousands of letters from people saying how much better they feel."
Oh testimonials, of course. Any regular readers of this blog would know that testimonials do not constitute scientific evidence. The human mind is fallible, memories are remodelled and we sometimes inadvertently attribute an effect of one treatment when our body may have repaired itself naturally. Or we may have done something else to reverse the pain or illness. A red flag should always be raised if you come across a product or service that has no evidence for efficacy apart from testimonials. They are simply unreliable.
Even earlier than the 2003 BBC investigation, a paper was published in the Medical Journal of Australia, which concluded this:
Vega testing (the Vega test method) is an unorthodox method of diagnosing allergic and other diseases. It has no established scientific basis and there are no controlled trials to support its usefulness. Vega testing may lead to inappropriate treatment and expense to the patient and community (1).
And here's what Quackwatch have to say about the likes of Vega test:
The devices described in this article are used to diagnose nonexistent health problems, select inappropriate treatment, and defraud insurance companies. The practitioners who use them are either delusional, dishonest, or both. These devices should be confiscated and the practitioners who use them should be prosecuted.
Another article
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....s-allergy-tests-causing-real-harm-say-experts
Another excerpt:
Also debunked is the Vega test, a mixture of acupuncture and homeopathy, which attempts to measure electronic resistance across the skin while the child or adult holds the suspect food in their hand.
Just look up what all the leading experts have to say about Vega testing and you'll see that it's a good way of taking advantage of people.
- Mar 6, 2018
- 496
- Tinnitus Since
- Jan 20/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Most likely accoustic trauma
Let me stop you right there...you have the right to believe anything you wish, but the so called "experts" or groups, or universities doing these studies are often in conflict of interest, as they are getting sponsored by the big pharma or their associates.
I'm pretty sure that anyone with money can hire a group of the right people and prove whatever it is that they are trying to prove.
Also, I personally don't believe that the government has our best interest in mind, so I will take any of their so called "studies" with grain of salt, as I'm pretty sure the tax money from big pharma could be pretty persuasive.
Do you really think it is in their best interest to cure whatever disease you might have, or do you think might be more advantageous to just keep you as a lifetime customer and pump you full of dangerous drugs, which they themselves don't fully understand instead?
Look at the Rick Simpson's cancer story and all the people he helped out...the guy who is treating me is actually on the government's "quack" list, which to me is a good sign (almost like a badge of honour of sorts).
He was getting sued, because some of his treatments were deemed "ineffective" and "unproven"...in translation, he was actually helping way too many people for their liking.
Think about it for a second...if being ineffective was bases for a lawsuit, then the whole mainstream medical should be banned, as throughout my lifetime I personally witnessed their so called "effectiveness" by them almost killing or maiming lot of people that I happen to know.
Don't get me wrong, there are few exceptions to this rule and there are some good doctors out there doing a good job, but as someone who was dating few girls from the medical field, all I can tell you is that you do not ever want to fall into their hands...and if you do, you better hope that you get that one of the few good doctors or surgeons who know their stuff, but the odds are stacked up against you.
Again, this falls into the same kind of category of topics as pro-gun vs anti-gun, left vs right, prepper vs non prepper..etc.
We could each come up with different sources, which support one or the other argument, but as I said before...I'm not looking to get drawn out into a multi paged thread, as I simply have better things to do with my time, than trying to convince someone to either examine or change their believes.
Based on my personal life experiences and on the experiences of others around me, I personally came to the conclusion that the mainstream medical establishment as a whole not only does not give two sh*ts about you or your suffering (whatever the disease), there is a good chance that they will actually make your problem worse...and I'm not saying that the system is stacked with bad people trying to do your harm.
I'm saying that there is probably lot of good well meaning people, whom don't know any better, or whom are forced to work within the available framework of the system and it's established practices instead of being allowed (or able) to think outside of the box and/or using common sense.
- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
Hi folks,
it's been 3-4 days now and my dog is still doing good. I am so glad I didn't take the advice of the dr and put my dog down. I had faith/hope that my dog was going to survive longer than what the dr expected. I was AGAINST putting down my dog. Had I listened to that dr, a dog(she is running around the house and eating her milkbone) that is fine and happy....would have been put down.
This is two times now, that this dr told me to put my dog down and both times this dog is doing great and she is happy. Please keep the faith when trouble hits. I know it seems scary and we feel that there is no hope. Just keep the faith and believe......
it's been 3-4 days now and my dog is still doing good. I am so glad I didn't take the advice of the dr and put my dog down. I had faith/hope that my dog was going to survive longer than what the dr expected. I was AGAINST putting down my dog. Had I listened to that dr, a dog(she is running around the house and eating her milkbone) that is fine and happy....would have been put down.
This is two times now, that this dr told me to put my dog down and both times this dog is doing great and she is happy. Please keep the faith when trouble hits. I know it seems scary and we feel that there is no hope. Just keep the faith and believe......
- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
It's Saturday, the ears are ringing like hell and it feels like a day that should just be spent in bed and possibly snacking on some pudding. I wish I could do that.....but the inner warrior says, that today I/WE need to live our lives. That inner warrior says "Fish/TT you are tougher than the tinnitus, tinnitus is no match for you!"
Today feels like a mountain for me, today feels like a mountain for all of us. Plain and simple, move that mountain and don't let it block your sunshine! We don't need, super strength to move them mountains either, just a baby step, small action can still YIELD amazing RESULTS!
Go and get em........
Today feels like a mountain for me, today feels like a mountain for all of us. Plain and simple, move that mountain and don't let it block your sunshine! We don't need, super strength to move them mountains either, just a baby step, small action can still YIELD amazing RESULTS!
Go and get em........
- May 16, 2017
- 3,754
- Tinnitus Since
- 04/2011
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Syringing + Somatic tinnitus from dental work
My first onset of severe tinnitus involved my ear. By year four I was able to live a normal live where I didn't have focus on my T. If I overused hearing protection while traveling then focus on my T came back. Even after the spike settled it would take a few weeks to get my mind unfocused again on my T.
I self counseled myself which was also involved using improvement goals on any interest that I had before tinnitus. One improvement goal was building a set of sport cards using eBay. Other things that I did was getting more exercise, sunlight - vitamin D, and increasing salt as my system had none because of avoidance. I do need to say that my ears settled a bit from 10 to a 6.
Now I have a new T onset from serious physical injury that includes severe pain from damaged mouth and facial nerves.
I self counseled myself which was also involved using improvement goals on any interest that I had before tinnitus. One improvement goal was building a set of sport cards using eBay. Other things that I did was getting more exercise, sunlight - vitamin D, and increasing salt as my system had none because of avoidance. I do need to say that my ears settled a bit from 10 to a 6.
Now I have a new T onset from serious physical injury that includes severe pain from damaged mouth and facial nerves.
- May 5, 2016
- 2,594
- Tinnitus Since
- 1988
- Cause of Tinnitus
- loud noise and very bad sickness
You are always, on my mind my dear friend. Please never give up, keep searching/fighting/clawing at this beast. I face depression quite a bit now and it takes all my courage, guts, soul to push each day. The PAIN and the INTRUSIVE ringing/hearing loss never makes it easy. I am basically doing my best to deal with the cards that I am dealt....
Bless....
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