Floaters

[annV]

Oh, I didn't even know it would be 11.000 for BOTH eyes NO WAY, am I ever gonna have that kind of money. I can't work full time because of T/H and also other issues. So unless I win the lottery or something it will probably never be a possibility for me, sadly.

Ask your parents to pay for it, or find a rich man to take advantage of.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

Ask your parents to pay for it, or find a rich man to take advantage of.

I have no contact to my father, and my mother is dirt poor (poorer then I am). Finding a rich man.....Yeah, I guess there's that :/

 

[Pero1234]

What's FOV?

I live in Belgium and I was told that the cure for floaters is more risky than the disease...

And only worth the risk if extremely bothersome!

 

[RicoS]

What's FOV?

I live in Belgium and I was told that the cure for floaters is more risky than the disease...

And only worth the risk if extremely bothersome!

Yes told told me the same in the Netherlands .... but it is utter nonsense.
FOV is Floaters Only Vitrectomy... btw...
They do this surgery all the time...when I was there 11 other people on the floor had it done also. All came back fine. I asked the doctor in the Netherlands why he said it was so risky. He got a bit angry with me saying it is only for people with eye injury and we floater sufferers are wasting time because they could help the severe injury cases instead of us cry babies about floaters.

I told him I was cured fully and couldn't be happier and did not care what he thought. I said it was very bad from him to lie about it.

Ask for Dr. Stalmans in Leuven Hospital.... he did my eyes and he is one of the best in Europe!! Very nice and down to earth guy

 

[HighleyTall]

I have had T in my left ear for 14 years. End 2017 i noticed fat floaters and black small spots (red bloodcells) in my right eye after a long walk. What happens is, the eye liquid shrinks when aging and causes it to come loose from the retina. Happens to 75% of the people. Sometimes this liquid pulls on the retine and you can get a rip or part of the retina might come loose. This is what happened too me, i woke up one morning and part of my sight was gone!
However i don't think there is a relationship between floaters and T.

 

[Mr Worried]

This is what happened too me, i woke up one morning and part of my sight was gone!

Retinal detachment?

Did your surgeon manage to fix it?

 

[dpdx]

I have had T in my left ear for 14 years. End 2017 i noticed fat floaters and black small spots (red bloodcells) in my right eye after a long walk. What happens is, the eye liquid shrinks when aging and causes it to come loose from the retina. Happens to 75% of the people. Sometimes this liquid pulls on the retine and you can get a rip or part of the retina might come loose. This is what happened too me, i woke up one morning and part of my sight was gone!
However i don't think there is a relationship between floaters and T.

There totally is. I never had black eye floaters until my T jumped from 2 to a 8. my Black eye floater can be seen on any light surface.

 

[JohnAdams]

Lately I've been getting a lot of them in my right eye. It's very annoying cause I have a couple of dark ones dancing around the center of my vision, making it hard to concentrate on the computer or enjoy being outside.

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Any chance they will go away, move or anything?
Gets my mind a little off the tinnitus, but really it just adds to the depressive state that I'm in...

I've had them my whole life, but I can only see them in the right lighting conditions.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I have a question...

I got my vision checked a couple of years ago, because I was bothered by the eye floaters. The doctor couldnt find anything wrong with my eyes though.

Does that mean that they can not spot (haha) my floaters and therefore can not remove them? I am worried about this

 

[Mr Worried]

Does that mean that they can not spot (haha) my floaters and therefore can not remove them?

Could be one of two things. Either he/she saw your floaters and didn't want to make a big deal out of it to try and make you avoid pursuing any risky surgeries (pretty standard).

Or they can't actually see them because they're too small. They can still be removed, but the surgeon would likely need to induce a PVD (basically forcefully unsticking the jelly that's adhering to the retina itself). It increases the risk of retinal tears during the surgery, but that's probably where your floaters are located, so...

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I have read that FOV has very VERY little risk to it, but maybe no surgeon will do it for me because I am young

Sucks being 32 with a giant web of floaters all over my vision. I am starting to feel more at danger in traffic too, because often the floaters will distract me from being focused on traffic around me, when I am on my bike.

I have also started using sun glasses indoors because sometimes the floaters are bothering me THAT much.

 

[Mr Worried]

I have read that FOV has very VERY little risk to it

It's small, but still significant enough to worry about and that's why docs generally want to avoid casually doing these surgeries unless the patient is really struggling. Here's a piece from a 2014 journal article stating the complication rates from 143 patients

"In both of these series, the reported surgical outcomes are favorable. Mason et al retrospectively reviewed 168 eyes of 143 patients undergoing PPV for symptomatic vitreous floaters. Their high surgical success rate was based on 94% of patients rating their experience as a "complete success" and 92% of patients reporting either no symptoms or extremely mild symptoms of floaters after surgery. Complications were relatively few and included 12 eyes (7.1%) with iatrogenic retinal breaks, 2 eyes with transient vitreous hemorrhage, 1 eye with cystoid macular edema, and no eyes with postoperative retinal detachment or endophthalmitis at a mean follow up of 18 months. A visually significant cataract requiring phacoemulsification developed in 9 (16.1%) of the 56 phakic eyes. The authors demonstrated a statistically significant improvement in best corrected visual acuity, which improved from a mean of 20/40 preoperatively to 20/25 postoperatively."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3996761/

but maybe no surgeon will do it for me because I am young

There's plenty of surgeons that will do it, but you might have to ask around. I've spoken to teenagers who have had the surgery done, so it's not unheard of

Sucks being 32 with a giant web of floaters all over my vision. I am starting to feel more at danger in traffic too, because often the floaters will distract me from being focused on traffic around me, when I am on my bike.

Yeah I know what you mean. I stopped myself from driving at the end of 2016 because the large one in my left eye nearly caused me to crash into someone while I was busy trying to "flick" it out of my central vision. Luckily I live close to uni so I don't need my car for now

I have also started using sun glasses indoors because sometimes the floaters are bothering me THAT much.

Try find a pair of blue light blocking sunglasses if you can. I find them infinitely better at taking the edge off floaters. They'll usually have an orange tint

 

[TheDanishGirl]

It's small, but still significant enough to worry about and that's why docs generally want to avoid casually doing these surgeries unless the patient is really struggling. Here's a piece from a 2014 journal article stating the complication rates from 143 patients

"In both of these series, the reported surgical outcomes are favorable. Mason et al retrospectively reviewed 168 eyes of 143 patients undergoing PPV for symptomatic vitreous floaters. Their high surgical success rate was based on 94% of patients rating their experience as a "complete success" and 92% of patients reporting either no symptoms or extremely mild symptoms of floaters after surgery. Complications were relatively few and included 12 eyes (7.1%) with iatrogenic retinal breaks, 2 eyes with transient vitreous hemorrhage, 1 eye with cystoid macular edema, and no eyes with postoperative retinal detachment or endophthalmitis at a mean follow up of 18 months. A visually significant cataract requiring phacoemulsification developed in 9 (16.1%) of the 56 phakic eyes. The authors demonstrated a statistically significant improvement in best corrected visual acuity, which improved from a mean of 20/40 preoperatively to 20/25 postoperatively."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3996761/



There's plenty of surgeons that will do it, but you might have to ask around. I've spoken to teenagers who have had the surgery done, so it's not unheard of



Yeah I know what you mean. I stopped myself from driving at the end of 2016 because the large one in my left eye nearly caused me to crash into someone while I was busy trying to "flick" it out of my central vision. Luckily I live close to uni so I don't need my car for now



Try find a pair of blue light blocking sunglasses if you can. I find them infinitely better at taking the edge off floaters. They'll usually have an orange tint

Still. Small risk in my opinion. a risk I would be willing to take, because my eye floaters contribute to my suicidal thoughts sometimes (in correlation with tinnitus - but tinnitus I can do nothing about) It IS that bad.

 

[Mr Worried]

Still. Small risk in my opinion. a risk I would be willing to take, because my eye floaters contribute to my suicidal thoughts sometimes (in correlation with tinnitus - but tinnitus I can do nothing about) It IS that bad.

I can definitely sympathize with that, lol

My best advice from this point would be to seek out the best surgeon you can. You'll wanna increase the chances of success as much as possible, even if it costs a bit more. These are our eyes after all, and they're pretty delicate and important.

A member of another forum I frequent made a small database about the forum members who had undergone the surgery. It might help you get an idea of which docs are good, and which should be avoided.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gbftdw586rfajn/Vitrectomy Database as on Dec '15.xlsx?dl=0

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I can definitely sympathize with that, lol

My best advice from this point would be to seek out the best surgeon you can. You'll wanna increase the chances of success as much as possible, even if it costs a bit more. These are our eyes after all, and they're pretty delicate and important.

A member of another forum I frequent made a small database about the forum members who had undergone the surgery. It might help you get an idea of which docs are good, and which should be avoided.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3gbftdw586rfajn/Vitrectomy Database as on Dec '15.xlsx?dl=0

I love this particular doctors name: Dr Cosar Batman, BATMAN! I imagine him in the batsuit doing my eyes, ahahaha

 

[Rainbowsheep]

I think I have had them my entire life without really knowing there was a name for them. I kinda assumed it was a normal thing I guess. Anyhow they never really bother me anyway. I never really notice them

 

[TheDanishGirl]

^I just don't seem to have a fully functioning brain filter that filters out unimportant stuff. It can't filter out T for too long and it can't filter out my eye floaters :/

 

[kit1048]

I started noticing eye floaters at about 2.5 months in to my tinnitus. Has anyone had experience with these? Some people theorize that they have always been present and tinnitus causes us to notice it more and we should focus on ignoring it (like how do you ignore big grey lines and dots). But, in my 29 years of life I have never known them to be THIS noticeable. I do think I have always had them to some extent, but not like this. I have read some articles that say floaters will eventually break apart or move out of your direct line of vision. Some other forums people say they stay forever. Some people say they get worse some people say you don't notice them over time. I have no idea what to believe. Hearing a story about eye floaters is like hearing about a UFO seen by 5 different people, no one has a straight answer haha.

Can someone who has or has had eye floaters (for years) fill me in. What can I expect? Should I go to my eye doctor? Will they go away and drift on their own. Will they get worse and worse? Will getting my vision repaired through Lasik help?

Let me know

 

[coffee_girl]

I've had floaters for all my life...I also wear glasses though so I dunno if my bad vision is the root cause of it. I never noticed the floaters and I always thought they were normal and everyone had them (oops?). Oh well, it doesn't bother me and I didn't notice an increase after T.

Bad eyes? Bad ears? I really won the lottery =P

 

[dpdx]

No, T causes Eye Floaters and Visual Snow.
I never had Eye floaters up until March where I got black eye floaters. Never had them in my life.

 

[85dB T]

Seems many people with tinnitus have floaters. (noticed mine long before T before a pilot's license eye exam)

Is there is a direct relationship between T and floaters?
(weak cilia in ears and weak tissues in eyes?)

Or are floaters normal for everyone, with or without T.

 

[Contrast]

there is research to suggest that tinnitus is associated with eye floaters
@threefirefour (post paper from Susan Shore)

 

[threefirefour]

there is research to suggest that tinnitus is associated with eye floaters
@threefirefour (post paper from Susan Shore)

That will be a hard paper to refind. I'll definitely look and repost tinnitus relation to visual snow and floaters.

 

[vttbx]

I had an increase in floaters this year and was diagnosed with posterior vitreous detachment. My doctor said this is a normal part of aging and will get better over time. It has taken four months now and the improvement has been slow. I have had T for 18 years and hardly noticed my floaters prior to this year. I don't think the two are related.

 

[dpdx]

Do you guys find it weird that all the eye floaters I have are mostly (not all) are in my left eye and left ear is where I have bad t. I have huge dark blobs in that eye as well (left eye) and bad bad tinnitus on left ear.

THOUGHTS?

 

[dpdx]

That will be a hard paper to refind. I'll definitely look and repost tinnitus relation to visual snow and floaters.

It is associated. Read post above.

 

[xCyborg]

Like tinnitus wasn't enough, now I have those damn floaters invading my vision field overnight out of nowhere just like T.
It's hard to believe they were there before and my brain stopped filtering them all of the sudden. I'm nearsighted, and it could a side effect of meds or something sinister like a cruel cosmic joke.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

So I am saving up to get a FOV done. If all goes well I will have the money in about 10 years.

But I got a thought today, that made me scared....

Can one develop eye floaters all over again in the years after the surgery??! If so, the money would be totally wasted

 

[dpdx]

So I am saving up to get a FOV done. If all goes well I will have the money in about 10 years.

But I got a thought today, that made me scared....

Can one develop eye floaters all over again in the years after the surgery??! If so, the money would be totally wasted

I dont think so. I am going to do the surgery as well in 10 years.

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I dont think so. I am going to do the surgery as well in 10 years.

I hope you are right. Just imagine the devastation if one had the surgery, got clear vision and then the floaters came back