Help With Massive Spike

[john mccluskey]

Hi all
I've lived with mild tinnitus for over a year . Then on the 15th jan2015 it went to whole new level. Both ears ringing loudly with a few morse code beeps thrown in . I thought that I had damaged my ears over the new year period. 8 weeks later still as bad. I went to my ent yesterday for a check up and hearing test. After the results came back the doctor compared them with my first (mild tinnitus) hearing test and they were almost identical. So no change in my hearing still normal for my age. Any ideas why my tinnitus has got so bad when my hearing is the same
Thanks john

 

[Stink]

Hi all
I've lived with mild tinnitus for over a year . Then on the 15th jan2015 it went to whole new level. Both ears ringing loudly with a few morse code beeps thrown in . I thought that I had damaged my ears over the new year period. 8 weeks later still as bad. I went to my ent yesterday for a check up and hearing test. After the results came back the doctor compared them with my first (mild tinnitus) hearing test and they were almost identical. So no change in my hearing still normal for my age. Any ideas why my tinnitus has got so bad when my hearing is the same
Thanks john

you should ask @Dr. Nagler

It may just be your perception and reaction. because there is this new information that tinnitus loudness does not matter

you'll get better... welcome brother

 

[john mccluskey]

Thanks stink bloody hope so

 

[Matt01]

Have you always had the morse code beeps? Or is it new? That all I had. One side only. How loud is this element?

 

[john mccluskey]

Always had a mild ringing 3/10 since the start then gradually started getting the odd beep . Then on January I woke with my two ears ringing 8/10 still not went back to baseline God knows what's happpened but I'm struggling just existing at the moment day to day . But my god it's hard to keep going with this din everyday. I have two young boys 8-11 . I'm trying to stay strong for them

 

[dan]

you should ask @Dr. Nagler

It may just be your perception and reaction. because there is this new information that tinnitus loudness does not matter

you'll get better... welcome brother

That is not true, loudness does matter, it matters a lot - Dr.Nagler said so himself. It matters but the primary determinant is our reaction...

 

[Vincent R]

Hi all
I've lived with mild tinnitus for over a year . Then on the 15th jan2015 it went to whole new level. Both ears ringing loudly with a few morse code beeps thrown in . I thought that I had damaged my ears over the new year period. 8 weeks later still as bad. I went to my ent yesterday for a check up and hearing test. After the results came back the doctor compared them with my first (mild tinnitus) hearing test and they were almost identical. So no change in my hearing still normal for my age. Any ideas why my tinnitus has got so bad when my hearing is the same
Thanks john

What happened over the new year period to make you think it worsened your T, John?

 

[john mccluskey]

I honestly don't know Vincent . I went to quite a loud party on New Year's Day but the mega increase didn't appear until the 15th January and as I've said I haven't experienced any further hearing loss according to my doctor. I can here it everywhere now above my TV above my car can't mask it all its so loud and high pitched!!

 

[RB2014]

Mine got worst with stress. Did you have anything that might have affected you emotionally in the past couple of months?

 

[Vincent R]

I honestly don't know Vincent . I went to quite a loud party on New Year's Day but the mega increase didn't appear until the 15th January and as I've said I haven't experienced any further hearing loss according to my doctor. I can here it everywhere now above my TV above my car can't mask it all its so loud and high pitched!!

If you had fucked up your inner ear hair cells, you wouldn't have to wait two weeks for the change in T to kick in. I mean, who has heard about anyone who fired a gun or went to a concert, just to get T two weeks later? So my guess is that the increase in volume is your brain messing about on it's own.

Nerve injure within the ear won't heal, but if your brain is on red alert it might settle down again. I know this isn't much of an advice, but try to take it calm for a few weeks, eat healthy and hope for the best.

 

[Cymro41]

My T very similar to yous John. Seems to be getting louder and more difficult to mask. I get so , so low and despair at times. Some of the comments here are brutally honest and sometimes don't inspire much "support" though. Anyway, live in hope.

 

[Cymro41]

Unfortunately my only relief from this loud T is alcohol. It seems to to get less noticable. But I know that I am doing myself harm . This thing is horrible. Help if any one can!!

 

[Nucleo]

If you had fucked up your inner ear hair cells, you wouldn't have to wait two weeks for the change in T to kick in. I mean, who has heard about anyone who fired a gun or went to a concert, just to get T two weeks later? So my guess is that the increase in volume is your brain messing about on it's own.

Nerve injure within the ear won't heal, but if your brain is on red alert it might settle down again. I know this isn't much of an advice, but try to take it calm for a few weeks, eat healthy and hope for the best.

From this paper: http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/45/14077.full.pdf+html

Although DPOAE and ABR thresholds are sensitive metrics of hair cell damage, they are quite insensitive to "primary" neuronal degeneration, i.e., loss of cochlear neurons without loss of hair cells. Practically, using threshold as a high-throughput screening tool for deafness phenotype, e.g., in mutagenesis studies (Kermany et al.,2006), selects against discovery of primary neuronal disorders, thereby reinforcing the sense that such disorders are rare, compared to the "secondary" neuronal degeneration seen weeks and months after IHC death. Behavioral thresholds, too, can fail to provide evidence of underlying neurodegeneration (Schuknecht and Woellner, 1953). Thus, dependence on this measure, alone,to quantify noise-induced damage in humans is seriously flawed.​

So yes, apparantly it is possible to develop tinnitus much at a much later date following the noise insult.

 

[Cymro41]

Ahh ok. Bit academic for me but thanks.

 

[James Brown]

Unfortunately my only relief from this loud T is alcohol. It seems to to get less noticable. But I know that I am doing myself harm . This thing is horrible. Help if any one can!!

I believe alcohol is like Xanax, it numb you a little. It has the same effect on me. Just try not to abuse.

 

[Sailboardman]

Try either L-theanine, 5htp or melatonin for sleep. I use a bedside masking machine also.