I Bought a Motorcycle — Afraid of It Making My Tinnitus Worse

Did you figure out what you were gonna do?

Hello !

Actually, this week I had the Dentist on Monday morning and it was very loud with the drill, very high-pitched... :(

So for now I have a spike in my left ear... Don't know if it will get down at least a bit...

And for the Motorbike, I haven't touched it since more than 10 days now...

Damn ears...
 
Omg so sorry about that, hope you recover from that incident. Did they drill for a long time?

Clearly got a spike from that drill, for about 5-10 minutes during the Dentist session...

And tomorrow I have to go back but I hope this will not be as loud and high-pitched as last Monday !

Anyway I had no choice to do this teeth operation... Otherwise it would get worse and don't know what would happen... :(
 
Hello thanks for your answer ! :)

Yes definitely this is the wind that is the most loud thing when riding... Because my Motorcycle is a brand new model with really not a loud engine, I couldn't ride something too loud anyway ! LOL

Do you know the brand of this Helmet ?


The helmet in question is the Sena Momentum INC helmet. In my opinion, don't bother. Sena has missed the boat on this one. Fantastic concept, but it all ends there. About a year and a half ago, I came down with Tinnitus and freaked out...thankfully, short term. I thought my riding days were over. After a number of months, I decided that riding was just too important to me, so I started on a quest to minimize the risk of (further) noise-induced hearing loss. I researched motorcycles, motorcycle accesories (wind deflectors, etc.) and helmets extensively. I sold two of my beloved motorcycles(Harley Ultra Limited and a Honda Shadow Aero), because I thought they would put me at greater risk for worsening T (I now believe this was a little impulsive and unnecessary).
For a motorcycle, I bought a BMW R1200RT (supposedly, one of the quietest in the industry) and bought a Schuberth C3 Pro and later on added a Shoei GT Air (both highly rated in terms of wind/noise protection. This set-up made me comfortable enough for me to continue with riding. I had previously ridden a number of across the USA trips and was still skeptical about long distance trips. Since then, I have ridden from Massachusetts to Florida and back, as well as a cross-country from California back to Mass. I wear earplugs 100% of the time and I believe with a diligent, sensible approach to wind management, I can continue with my passion.
Back to the Sena INC helmet. I bought one right after they came out. I thought it would make the use of ear plugs unnecessary. I did head-to-head tests with the Schuberth, Shoei and Sena (all in the same day, under the same circumstances). Although the Sena might be an "okay" helmet in general, in terms of what it claims to be Intelligent Noise Control), it is a piece of garbage that lays idle in my cubbie.
As far as your decision to ride, that decision is yours! We can't erradicate risk, only minimize. For me, it comes down to passion and what I'm willing to do with that. I LOVE motorcycles!
 
Hello thanks for your answer ! :)

Yes definitely this is the wind that is the most loud thing when riding... Because my Motorcycle is a brand new model with really not a loud engine, I couldn't ride something too loud anyway ! LOL

Do you know the brand of this Helmet ?

I tried the brand "Schubert" but I didn't like it... :/
The helmet in question is the Sena Momentum INC helmet. In my opinion, don't bother. Sena has missed the boat on this one. Fantastic concept, but it ends there. About a year and a half ago, I came down with Tinnitus and freaked out...thankfully, short term. I thought my riding days were over. After a number of months, I decided that riding was just too important to me, so I started on a quest to minimize the risk of (further) noise-induced hearing loss. I researched motorcycles, motorcycle accesories (wind deflectors) and helmets extensively. I sold two of my beloved motorcycles(Harley Ultra Limited and a Honda Shadow Aero), because I thought they would put me at greater risk for worsening T (I now believe this was a little impulsive and unnecessary).
For a motorcycle, I bought a BMW R1200RT (supposedly, one of the quietest in the industry) and bought a Schuberth C3 Pro and later on added a Shoei GT Air (both highly rated in terms of wind/noise protection. This set-up made me comfortable enough for me to continue with riding. I had ridden a number of across the USA trips and was still skeptical about long distance trips. Since then, I have ridden from Massachusetts to Florida and back, as well as a cross-country from California back to Mass. I wear earplugs 100% of the time and I believe with a diligent, sensible approach to wind management, I can continue with my passion.
Back to the Sena INC helmet. I bought one right after they came out. I thought it would make the use of ear plugs unnecessary. I did head-to-head tests with the Schuberth, Shoei and Sena (all in the same day, under the same circumstances). Although the Sena might be an "okay" helmet in general, in terms of what it claims to be Intelligent Noise Control), it is a piece of garbage that lays idle in my cubbie.
As far as your decision to ride, that decision is yours! We can't erradicate risk, only minimize. For me, it comes down to passion and what I'm willing to do with that. I LOVE motorcycles!
 
Hello,
I'm interested in this topic too. Before getting tinnitus I was considering buying a Honda Africa Twin next year, but now I'm so scared that I kinda gave up on that dream.
I've ridden mostly low cc dirt bikes before and one time I've tried my friend's touring motorcycle with an aftermarket windshield and it made a huge difference. It's was much quieter and the wind noise was not bothersome.
I suggest everyone getting a proper aftermarket windshield. Unfortunately most bikes (even expensive ones) have inadequate wind protection. But please be very diligent, since you are interfering with aerodynamics and bad windshields are known to cause speed wobbles!
 
The helmet in question is the Sena Momentum INC helmet. In my opinion, don't bother. Sena has missed the boat on this one. Fantastic concept, but it ends there. About a year and a half ago, I came down with Tinnitus and freaked out...thankfully, short term. I thought my riding days were over. After a number of months, I decided that riding was just too important to me, so I started on a quest to minimize the risk of (further) noise-induced hearing loss. I researched motorcycles, motorcycle accesories (wind deflectors) and helmets extensively. I sold two of my beloved motorcycles(Harley Ultra Limited and a Honda Shadow Aero), because I thought they would put me at greater risk for worsening T (I now believe this was a little impulsive and unnecessary).
For a motorcycle, I bought a BMW R1200RT (supposedly, one of the quietest in the industry) and bought a Schuberth C3 Pro and later on added a Shoei GT Air (both highly rated in terms of wind/noise protection. This set-up made me comfortable enough for me to continue with riding. I had ridden a number of across the USA trips and was still skeptical about long distance trips. Since then, I have ridden from Massachusetts to Florida and back, as well as a cross-country from California back to Mass. I wear earplugs 100% of the time and I believe with a diligent, sensible approach to wind management, I can continue with my passion.
Back to the Sena INC helmet. I bought one right after they came out. I thought it would make the use of ear plugs unnecessary. I did head-to-head tests with the Schuberth, Shoei and Sena (all in the same day, under the same circumstances). Although the Sena might be an "okay" helmet in general, in terms of what it claims to be Intelligent Noise Control), it is a piece of garbage that lays idle in my cubbie.
As far as your decision to ride, that decision is yours! We can't erradicate risk, only minimize. For me, it comes down to passion and what I'm willing to do with that. I LOVE motorcycles!

Hello sorry for my very late answer !

Many thanks for sharing on this topic...

Your message gives me hope because I love riding too ! But me it is with small motorbikes, only 125cm3 !

But even with small speed, it doesn't feel good in my ears, I wear earplugs on though... :(

I bought a Schuberth helmet C3 but convertible and this was a disaster !!! Plus I spent a lot of money on it... :( and the store didn't want to take it back...

So now I am a little traumatized with spending a big amount of money on a Helmet... Because I really don't want another big deception !

I don't know if the vibrations don't help with my Tinnitus, and my motorbike (MSX (Gromm) 125) is vibrating quite a lot in "high" speed...

Have a very good weekend ! :)
 
Hello,
I'm interested in this topic too. Before getting tinnitus I was considering buying a Honda Africa Twin next year, but now I'm so scared that I kinda gave up on that dream.
I've ridden mostly low cc dirt bikes before and one time I've tried my friend's touring motorcycle with an aftermarket windshield and it made a huge difference. It's was much quieter and the wind noise was not bothersome.
I suggest everyone getting a proper aftermarket windshield. Unfortunately most bikes (even expensive ones) have inadequate wind protection. But please be very diligent, since you are interfering with aerodynamics and bad windshields are known to cause speed wobbles!

Hello !

Very good and beautiful bike the Africa Twin !

I could put a windshield on my very small motorbike... But I don't know if it could help with the wind...

So what did you do ?

Did you buy any motobikes ?
 
Following. Long time biker, current ride is a Harley 1200 Sporty. Audiologist can make custom plugs. May say the hell with it, I'm 66 anyway and don't ride it a lot the last few years...
 
I rode for many years. But it was before cell phones and every other driver distraction imaginable. I dodge at least an accident or two a week in my truck. All it takes is once on a motorcycle to kill you or ruin your life if you live.

But if you insist on riding, I would try to stay on smooth pavement just to prevent the jarring of your head. That alone can make your Tinnitus worse. You've already addressed the wind noise with ear plugs. Now you may miss hearing a horn that could prevent an accident.
 
Hello everyone !

I went finally back on small trips with my Motorbike 125cm3 last weekend, it was so great to ride again, after many months of avoiding it !

I rode for more than 100km Saturday and Sunday... :)

But still not sure if this would be ok for my ears :/

I bought a new Arai Helmet, which is quite good, and always put wax earplugs in my ears...

I love riding so to me this is one of the loud things I would "risk"... But still not very ok with that ! :ROFL:
 
Here is the Beast ! :D

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This is a Mini-Motorbike that is SO FUN to ride with !
 
I used to ride and build custom motorcycles from cruisers to café racers. I am sure along the way, this increased sound took a cumulative affect on degrading my hearing contributing to my T. I used to ride with ear plugs FWIW....full leathers...full face helmet which is quieter...what is referred to in motorcycle circles as ATGATT

I stopped riding motorcycles because I wanted to live...not because of T. I saw too much foolishness on the road. I am a skilled motorcycle rider...raced...tracked etc. Btw, automobile drivers drive stupidly but so do a subset of motorcycle owners. Many drivers don't see motorcycle riders on the road.

You can buy an electric motorcycle which I presume has a lower noise quotient compared to a gasoline bike.

Or if just looking for recreation, you can buy an electric bicycle...whereby you can get some fitness benefit as well.

As someone said, your life and we each make our choices.

Good luck whatever you decide.
 
@Christophe_85 very nice. The MSX is basically the same engine block as a Grom, right?

I also got a new ride this season :D

She's stalling at speed with the clutch in after a mud bath, though -- headed to the dealer on Friday.

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This bike isn't actually amazingly more powerful than your MSX -- 24hp vs 9, my absolute balls-to-the-wall max speed is like 83mph to your 63, and my 0-60 is about 40-60% faster. But, my bike also weighs twice as much as yours, ha. It's a great bike for where I am up in the hills here, since it has a theoretically offroad-capable suspension, but it's not a highway bike. It's also pretty quiet; wind noise exceeds engine noise by the time you hit 50.
 
@linearb I'm not really into motorbikes although my husband and sons are, however, I loved the scenery lol... you're lucky to live in those surroundings... I've always loved and wanted an Italian Vespa though. Could see myself zooming round on one of them... red or pale blue...
 
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Vespa's aren't good for everybody. A friend of mine who never had tinnitus got hit by a truck who turned in front of him on one and his life changed dramatically. In spite of him never having tinnitus, I would never trade places with him now. Handsome guy...trained scientist like me...he lives in a lot of pain...both sleeping and just living.

Really why I stopped riding motorcycles. Some that love the sport like I do know that track riding and racing is a lot safer than riding a motorcycle on the street where you are subjected to moronic drivers.

I love all kinds of motorcycles from custom choppers to crotch rockets but my soft spot is cafe racers that got their start out of the UK.

Below is my cafe'd Triumph Bonneville...a remake of the original. Not much about this bike is stock. Before I rode it I took it to pieces to put my signature on it. I sold it to a collector who said if I ever built another one, he would buy that one too. I miss riding. But...not the peril of knowing that one mistake by a driver at an intersection or along a cross road even on a country road can change one's life irrevocably. There are some things even worse than tinnitus. I've seen it as being heavily invested into motorcycles which I will always love.
 
I used to ride and build custom motorcycles from cruisers to café racers. I am sure along the way, this increased sound took a cumulative affect on degrading my hearing contributing to my T. I used to ride with ear plugs FWIW....full leathers...full face helmet which is quieter...what is referred to in motorcycle circles as ATGATT

I stopped riding motorcycles because I wanted to live...not because of T. I saw too much foolishness on the road. I am a skilled motorcycle rider...raced...tracked etc. Btw, automobile drivers drive stupidly but so do a subset of motorcycle owners. Many drivers don't see motorcycle riders on the road.

You can buy an electric motorcycle which I presume has a lower noise quotient compared to a gasoline bike.

Or if just looking for recreation, you can buy an electric bicycle...whereby you can get some fitness benefit as well.

As someone said, your life and we each make our choices.

Good luck whatever you decide.

Thanks for your message ! :)

Don't you miss riding sometimes ?

My small Motorbike doesn't do a lot of noise, quiet in fact... :D

This is more the wind into the Helmet which can be uncomfortable...
 
@Christophe_85 very nice. The MSX is basically the same engine block as a Grom, right?

I also got a new ride this season :D

She's stalling at speed with the clutch in after a mud bath, though -- headed to the dealer on Friday.

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This bike isn't actually amazingly more powerful than your MSX -- 24hp vs 9, my absolute balls-to-the-wall max speed is like 83mph to your 63, and my 0-60 is about 40-60% faster. But, my bike also weighs twice as much as yours, ha. It's a great bike for where I am up in the hills here, since it has a theoretically offroad-capable suspension, but it's not a highway bike. It's also pretty quiet; wind noise exceeds engine noise by the time you hit 50.

Thanks man, yes the MSX is exactly the same than the Grom ! ;)

Really fun to ride with !

Your bike seems really great ! :)

Yes the most disturbing noise is from the wind... :-/ Is it still ok for you to ride ? Even if the wind can be quite loud into your Helmet ?
 
Thanks for your message ! :)

Don't you miss riding sometimes ?

My small Motorbike doesn't do a lot of noise, quiet in fact... :D

This is more the wind into the Helmet which can be uncomfortable...
Yes, I miss riding. If I were to ride again...other than an occasion blast on a friend's bike down the street, I would buy a race track bike and track it only. Probably a 600cc supersport. Speeds are higher...overall skill level of track riders is higher, and no dumb cagers pulling out in front of you changing your life. Track is a blast but it is even more elective than riding on the street which has the utility of actually going some place. :) Riding a race bike at the track...developing this skill is pretty intoxicating...and humbling.

If you want a sense of what a handful of immortals can do at the track on a 1 liter 200hp race bike, check this out:



PS: if this rider were a pianist, he would be Mozart.
 
My motorcycles (older, but both shaft drive and low miles) Suzuki 850cc, Kawasaki 1200cc.

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@John Mahan totally agree. 90% of my riding is mostly dirt country roads where I rarely see a car; trees and silt are what I've got to worry more about. But, on the face of it, motorcycles are idiotically dumb. Every time I get on one I think "am I really bad at stats and basic physics? This seems like a really bad idea".

then I twist the throttle and wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
@John Mahan totally agree. 90% of my riding is mostly dirt country roads where I rarely see a car; trees and silt are what I've got to worry more about. But, on the face of it, motorcycles are idiotically dumb. Every time I get on one I think "am I really bad at stats and basic physics? This seems like a really bad idea".

then I twist the throttle and wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

It's the wheeeeeeeee that gets me too. I have been riding my whole life (I'm 59...been riding since I was 7 or 8) and tomorrow morning will be the first time I ride with my new partner Mr. Tinnitus. Have a nice Bell full face helmet that should muffle the "neighbor hater" pipes on my Sporty. Hoping to be able to continue as riding has ALWAYS been therapeutic for me.
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But, on the face of it, motorcycles are idiotically dumb. Every time I get on one I think "am I really bad at stats and basic physics? This seems like a really bad idea".

then I twist the throttle and wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

I've been on this forum for over a year now, and this might just be the best post yet! lol :D:p(y)
 
@John Mahan I totally agree about the dangers of dealing with moronic drivers.... It is bad enough dealing with them when you are in another car, let alone a motorcycle or Vespa.....

I saw some tragic things during my nursing career and unfortunately this included horrendous life changing injuries like you described in your post from motorcycle road accidents..... so I will continue to dream of riding around on a Vespa like Audrey Hepburn in Roman holiday..... a safer option for me.....
 
@John Mahan totally agree. 90% of my riding is mostly dirt country roads where I rarely see a car; trees and silt are what I've got to worry more about. But, on the face of it, motorcycles are idiotically dumb. Every time I get on one I think "am I really bad at stats and basic physics? This seems like a really bad idea".

then I twist the throttle and wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
I lived out in the country when I built and owned my last motorcycle you see above. I picked my times for best riding conditions, fewest cars on the road. I rode for much of my life on and off. I believed, right or wrong, that the sand was passing thru my hour glass and I was living on borrowed time. When this pervades your thinking....it is time to stop riding because it subtracts too much from the joy of riding. I am a self avowed speed junkie. I have probably been over 100 mph on a motorcycle 1000 times.

When I moved to the city, I knew this was incompatible with my riding. People die in my town all the time on motorcycles.
 
It's the wheeeeeeeee that gets me too. I have been riding my whole life (I'm 59...been riding since I was 7 or 8) and tomorrow morning will be the first time I ride with my new partner Mr. Tinnitus. Have a nice Bell full face helmet that should muffle the "neighbor hater" pipes on my Sporty. \
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I would definitely not rely on any helmet to keep your ears safe if you're not wearing earplugs under it.

Ignoring your short pipes and thick block, wind noise at 70-80mph exceeds 100db, measured inside a full-face helmet. Riding at highway speeds for more than 5-10 mins without earplugs will do some amount of permanent hearing damage.

My bike is low power and I rarely exceed 65, but I put plugs in for anything more than "moving it up the driveway".

I lived out in the country when I built and owned my last motorcycle you see above. I picked my times for best riding conditions, fewest cars on the road. I rode for much of my life on and off. I believed, right or wrong, that the sand was passing thru my hour glass and I was living on borrowed time. When this pervades your thinking....it is time to stop riding because it subtracts too much from the joy of riding. I am a self avowed speed junkie. I have probably been over 100 mph on a motorcycle 1000 times.

Well, I've been doing this for 5 years, I've borrowed at least one truly insane sport bike, and I've literally never gone faster than 75, nor do I intend on it. Most of my riding is 40s, I have a dual sport bike and like to take it up on class-IV roads where I see more moose than people. So, I've never had that sense of "borrowed time", as much as "this is dangerous and probably stupid".

When I moved to the city, I knew this was incompatible with my riding. People die in my town all the time on motorcycles.
This makes sense. I actually learned to ride in the DC metro area and I used to ride home in the dark on route 66 at ~50-60-70. Last time I was in that area, I took an Uber on that same stretch of road, and I thought "I used to ride a motorcycle on this? That's insane!"

And yes, there were many traffic reports of bike deaths in that area.
 
I would definitely not rely on any helmet to keep your ears safe if you're not wearing earplugs under it.

Ignoring your short pipes and thick block, wind noise at 70-80mph exceeds 100db, measured inside a full-face helmet. Riding at highway speeds for more than 5-10 mins without earplugs will do some amount of permanent hearing damage
You are correct sir, and I stand corrected...once I put my helmet on I realized I still needed earplugs and promptly put them on. I also made it a very short "putt" just around the neighborhood due to the fact that I am not in top shape lately due to the sleep issues that come with this new (to me) T condition.
Thanks for your wise advice.
 

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