I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

Hey, at this point, I'm willing to try just about anything. What harm could it do? I downloaded the file. Kinda reminds me of the Industrial music I used to listen to at high volume in my younger years. Probably what gave me tinnitus in the first place!

 

That's just it - it could be harmful listening to those artificially generated tones and sweeps, as I linked to the relevant thread a few posts back, and it's especially concerning listening through headphones which some have advised you absolutely should not do.

 

You can play on speakers but it takes longer to see results, about 4-6 weeks instead of 3 weeks.

What you posted says it is circumstantial evidence. In fact, Tinnitus Mix helps hearing because most people do not get exposed to high frequencies, just speech (low frequencies), which causes the sections of the brain that processes high frequencies to shut down.

 

Is this speculation?

 

Throbbing Gristle is easy listening compared to Tinnitus Mix. I'll never again listen to it through headphones while I'm try sleep, but I'm certainly going to keep it in my collection. Desperation makes us humans do silly things.

 

Haha! Throbbing Gristle... Yeah, I couldn't imagine even trying to sleep through that ungodly racket, but I could listen to it for a little while. Probably not through headphones, though. I tend to avoid those now if I can.

 

Facts are few when someone stops posting after a long stretch of posting how their life had become undone by tinnitus and life is no longer worth living.

 

Female voice harmonics reach 17 kHz, so that's very high frequency for sound. And there are many other sounds with high frequencies, including commonly in music. From what I've read, it's overexposure to loud sounds at those frequencies that is the issue, not underexposure. So be careful with those loud tone exposures. They have spiked my tinnitus before as mentioned in the thread I linked to a few posts back.

Some anecdotal screensshots really don't prove anything. They could still be exceptions or placebo effect.

As someone else and myself have already mentioned earlier in the thread, there are some haunting sounds like from a horror movie in the Tinnitus Mix, so it could be unsettling trying to sleep listening to that.

 

You are a little off on frequencies of human voice. Human voice is very low frequency and does not give the ears enough high frequencies. If you don't use the high frequency section of the brain, it shuts down and you will acquire hearing loss, which is associated with one of the causes of tinnitus!

 

Depends what you look at and if you're referring to a base vs. harmonics. I have a hard time believing that lack of use causes hearing loss. Maybe sensitivity. My perhaps incorrect understanding is that hearing loss begins in higher frequencies as damage to the cochlea occurs on the outer ring or part where higher frequency hearing occurs. Who knows, this disorder seems so random.

Fundamentals and Harmonics of Human Voice Frequency Range
A Female voice frequency range covers fairly upto 350 Hz to 17 kHz.
Its fundamental frequency is 350 Hz to 3 kHz and Harmonics is 3 kHz to 17 kHz.

Male voice covers a Frequency range of 100 Hz to 8 kHz.
The fundamental is 100 Hz to 900 Hz and Harmonics is 900 Hz to 8 kHz.

 

We don't just hear fundamental frequencies, we also hear harmonics. In the case of the human voice, the harmonics make for an important amount of information, see here.

The following diagram, commonly used by hearing specialists, shows how much of the speech we'd be missing if we limited ourselves to 165-255 Hz. Basically, we'd just be able to "process" the "j" consonant.



I have personal experience with this myself since I have high frequency losses but perfect hearing in the lows (such as the 165-255 Hz): speech is very much affected by my loss.

More info:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_frequency
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice

 

Yeah... no. He is right about female voices, because he said their HARMONICS, which means the higher frequencies that are multiples above the fundamental tone, which of course is at the low frequency range 100-300 Hz or something and that's the main pitch.

I don't know about 17 kHz, but human voices have content at least at around 12 kHz, but many everyday sounds have frequencies above 10 kHz, like water running, birds chipping, and especially music which has all the spectrum. So you can just go listen to any song that isn't some weird lo-fi or recorded before the 60s, and get your high frequency dose.

 

Yeah, nice guy and very bright. I hope he’s still walking the earth. From what I remember his severe tinnitus was caused by someone rear ending his vehicle while they were texting.

 

Thanks for the information.

 

Hello. I started your treatment last night. For now, no difference. I will continue the following days/weeks.

 

Make sure you follow the instructions and use the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones.

It can take 3 weeks on average to see results. Do not skip a night/day. Glad to help.

 

Can your invention help reactive tinnitus?

 

No, it will make it worse.

Pumping more sound into a damaged auditory system is not good. Rest is best.

 

Your claims that your system is more advanced than Dr. Shore's tinnitus device are laughable! This is a completely absurd and "God Complex" type of thinking.

You are a delusional quack! I tried your method with the recommended headphones for well over a year never missing a day. And it made my tinnitus worse to this day!

 

This thread should be marked with a big warning that this is unproven, unscientific and a dangerous procedure.

 

There is a warning in the first post.

I agree with that warning that nobody with hyperacusis at least should try this but I can't see it being harmful for regular tinnitus if the volume is kept low.

 

I used this "treatment" on low volume for well over a year, and it did indeed make my (already severe) tinnitus worse!

 

What else did you do in the last year, though? Did you stay at home in silence, eat soft, non-crunchy foods, listen to this file only, rinse and repeat for 365 days, and so on? I'm not saying this guy's audio file is worth squat, but there are too many causative factors at play here for you to blame any one thing, man.

 

"Sound therapy" pushers have blood all over their hands. Especially @R. David Case. This is the dumbest stuff to push onto people with damaged auditory systems. When I first got reactive tinnitus and was looking for hope, I got caught up with this scam bullshit. @R. David Case had mild tinnitus, not from sound damage, and achieved natural remission. Had I not listened to this and remained in quiet, I wouldn't have worsened to a homebound state. Sound therapy pushed by doctors & @R. David Case should never happen.

I advise anyone with tinnitus to rest your auditory system. It is best. Take no meds and stay in quiet as much as possible. You might achieve natural remission like @R. David Case & the ones that he says he cured... like Liam Stops Tinnitus. This guy is just getting positive reviews off of people who had a mild case, and it went away.

DO NOT DO THIS THERAPY. Do not push more damage into your auditory system! Give up headphones, earbuds, and bone-conduction headphones if you have tinnitus!

 

No, I'm not blaming my tinnitus on this one thing. I've had it for 34 years! Look at my profile. I'm saying that I believe (strongly) that his "treatment" took my already severe tinnitus and made it worse than it was before.

 

I downloaded Tinnitus Mix quite a while ago out of curiosity. For the first time in months, I just played a little bit of it at low volume and couldn't help but laugh a little. I don't know if I could sleep much at all with this thing roaring into my ears using the recommended headphones. But I don't think it's safe and it would probably cause nightmares if I did sleep.

 

Yeah, I played Tinnitus Mix for a quick brief moment myself not too long ago as well and had to turn it off immediately. Sounded way too diabolical for me. Big pass.

 

Same for me. After less than a minute, I had enough.

 

Yeah, listening to something that sounds so nonsensical is not my forte, especially now. To each their own I guess.

 

If you look up Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music, he has something similar to Tinnitus Mix. I remember someone claiming some similar sounds took their tinnitus away.

I wonder what and how the brain interprets these sounds. Maybe using mindfulness meditation while listening to these sounds could be beneficial?