I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

#991
just1morething said:
So then do you swap out the speakers from your Koss head phones? Or are the one's in the SleepPhones adequate? My static dissipated after about an hour. I put my hearing aids/maskers in. Or it may just be an awakening nasty static noise I have to deal with every morning.
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Yes I swapped the speakers but apparently you can buy SleepPhones without speakers so it's cheaper.
 
#992
Someone told me that if I ask a dumb question that I will get a dumb answer, so I try to engage my brain before my mouth (or keyboard).

Those SleepPhones look nice even if you are listening to Simply Noise nature sounds.
 
#993
Hi all, I've just finished three weeks of @R. David Case suggested therapy and have mixed results, the hissing has seemed to have gotten a bit louder, well it seems to be more intrusive and my hearing seems to have got a little more sensitive, I stopped this therapy on Wednesday night which was the end of the third week, I have a feeling it is probably my anxiety which has caused my perception of the noise I hear to change (increase?)

I'm not sure if I want to give it another go, I have had tinnitus for 29 years, was mild till 4 years ago and seems to be getting worse or more intrusive anyway, because I have chronic Phonophobia and self inflicted Hyperacusis through extended ear plug use, I have a feeling I am not listening to the Tinnitus Mix loud enough, I have major anxiety issues when I think a noise is maybe too loud which I'm sure is not, in turn, increases my tinnitus or my perception of my tinnitus at least.

I was listening to it with the slider volume on halfway to just under three quarters and my iPhone volume level on three bars, my wife, who has tinnitus and excellent hearing with minimal hearing loss says she can hardly hear it when she listened, so yes the volume was low, so there's really no way my tinnitus should have gotten worse listening to this at the volume I have it on.

Do you think it was too low to be having any effect on my tinnitus?

Have I had tinnitus for too long for this to be effective?

Any more advice you could give would be evaluated and appreciated.
 
#995
RichL said:
the hissing has seemed to have gotten a bit louder, well it seems to be more intrusive and my hearing seems to have got a little more sensitive
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@RichL, I was hoping David's Tinnitus Mix would lessen your noise. I'm not sure if I should pursue it more. Not quite set up yet properly. I'm wearing hearing aids/maskers all day. I seem some better. Waking up in the morning is the killer for me...very bad static sound.
 
#996
RichL said:
Hi all, I've just finished three weeks of @R. David Case suggested therapy and have mixed results, the hissing has seemed to have gotten a bit louder, well it seems to be more intrusive and my hearing seems to have got a little more sensitive, I stopped this therapy on Wednesday night which was the end of the third week, I have a feeling it is probably my anxiety which has caused my perception of the noise I hear to change (increase?)

I'm not sure if I want to give it another go, I have had tinnitus for 29 years, was mild till 4 years ago and seems to be getting worse or more intrusive anyway, because I have chronic Phonophobia and self inflicted Hyperacusis through extended ear plug use, I have a feeling I am not listening to the Tinnitus Mix loud enough, I have major anxiety issues when I think a noise is maybe too loud which I'm sure is not, in turn, increases my tinnitus or my perception of my tinnitus at least.

I was listening to it with the slider volume on halfway to just under three quarters and my iPhone volume level on three bars, my wife, who has tinnitus and excellent hearing with minimal hearing loss says she can hardly hear it when she listened, so yes the volume was low, so there's really no way my tinnitus should have gotten worse listening to this at the volume I have it on.

Do you think it was too low to be having any effect on my tinnitus?

Have I had tinnitus for too long for this to be effective?

Any more advice you could give would be evaluated and appreciated.
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That's great you listened for the three weeks @RichL and thanks for the info, sorry it didn't help you but if you think the volume is really too low to have any effect then you are only adding stress and anxiety I think.

I can only let you know that for me it helped during use so I guess it doesn't work for everyone. I hope your hissing goes down again soon.
 
#998
RichL said:
Hi all, I've just finished three weeks of @R. David Case suggested therapy and have mixed results, the hissing has seemed to have gotten a bit louder, well it seems to be more intrusive and my hearing seems to have got a little more sensitive, I stopped this therapy on Wednesday night which was the end of the third week, I have a feeling it is probably my anxiety which has caused my perception of the noise I hear to change (increase?)

I'm not sure if I want to give it another go, I have had tinnitus for 29 years, was mild till 4 years ago and seems to be getting worse or more intrusive anyway, because I have chronic Phonophobia and self inflicted Hyperacusis through extended ear plug use, I have a feeling I am not listening to the Tinnitus Mix loud enough, I have major anxiety issues when I think a noise is maybe too loud which I'm sure is not, in turn, increases my tinnitus or my perception of my tinnitus at least.

I was listening to it with the slider volume on halfway to just under three quarters and my iPhone volume level on three bars, my wife, who has tinnitus and excellent hearing with minimal hearing loss says she can hardly hear it when she listened, so yes the volume was low, so there's really no way my tinnitus should have gotten worse listening to this at the volume I have it on.

Do you think it was too low to be having any effect on my tinnitus?

Have I had tinnitus for too long for this to be effective?

Any more advice you could give would be evaluated and appreciated.
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Yea sounds like you had it too low of volume. Having tinnitus 29 years causes a lot of brain damage and would take much longer for the Tinnitus Mix to work. If you did not get the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones it will not work either.
 
#999
Alex Matyjasek said:
This is not looking very promising...
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For the 440 people that eliminated their tinnitus it is promising, you can't judge Tinnitus Mix just by one or two people's results, read all the testimony letters I have posted on previous pages!! All of the negativity and calling me a scammer has caused many not to try Tinnitus Mix, I think we got 5 to use it per instructions and 4 reported good results.

We have had 23,000 views of this thread and because of fear mongering we only had a few try it, that's a shame, I had hoped to help hundreds stop their tinnitus.
 
#1,002
R. David Case said:
For the 440 people that eliminated their tinnitus it is promising, you can't judge Tinnitus Mix just by one or two people's results, read all the testimony letters I have posted on previous pages!! All of the negativity and calling me a scammer has caused many not to try Tinnitus Mix, I think we got 5 to use it per instructions and 4 reported good results.

We have had 23,000 views of this thread and because of fear mongering we only had a few try it, that's a shame, I had hoped to help hundreds stop their tinnitus.
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I never said you were a scammer. Why should I when you are trying to help people for free? Ok, 4 out of 5 haven't done this properly... But still I haven't seen the results that we are expecting for. Why hardly anyone isn't trying this out? Probably because they are scared trying something out that clinically hasn't been proven and just like me, waiting to see any positive stories.

Out of the 24,000 that have read this thread, I'm pretty sure some else is trying this but not reporting.

Don't get me wrong, if I start seeing positive reports from various sufferers, I'm all in. And thank you David for trying to help.
 
#1,003
R. David Case said:
For the 440 people that eliminated their tinnitus it is promising, you can't judge Tinnitus Mix just by one or two people's results, read all the testimony letters I have posted on previous pages!! All of the negativity and calling me a scammer has caused many not to try Tinnitus Mix, I think we got 5 to use it per instructions and 4 reported good results.

We have had 23,000 views of this thread and because of fear mongering we only had a few try it, that's a shame, I had hoped to help hundreds stop their tinnitus.
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A lot of members on this board are under extreme stress and struggling with anxiety so any negative experience on here will be what they remember the longest, it's how an anxious mind work. The last thing they want to do is make things worse, I would also like to see more people trying this since it helped for me but I totally understand them for not trying this.
 
#1,005
My noise all started in my left ear years ago. It was the same ear I had an airplane barotrauma in 2008. It used to be a high pitched whine. It is static atm. I don't like it at all and will try EarPopper and hearing aids/masker today. ENT's say it's HF hearing loss caused. I am still open to trying @R. David Case Tinnitus Mix when I get a headband that @gorzakus mentioned. Even if it worked short term it would be worth it.

Would it play on a iPad Classic? I haven't used that one in years and forgot if I would have to sync it in iTunes. Or if there is a repeat or loop?
 
#1,006
GregCA said:
The content doesn't go above 22.05 kHz, so having headphones that go beyond doesn't seem particularly useful.
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Well I have tested many headphones and the Koss works the best, we can argue over 22.05 kHz but that is still ultrasonic range. I am just saying if you look at the output graph of any device it doesn't just stop at a certain frequency, there is a curve, the higher the frequency the lower the output.
 
#1,007
Alex Matyjasek said:
I never said you were a scammer. Why should I when you are trying to help people for free? Ok, 4 out of 5 haven't done this properly... But still I haven't seen the results that we are expecting for. Why hardly anyone isn't trying this out? Probably because they are scared trying something out that clinically hasn't been proven and just like me, waiting to see any positive stories.

Out of the 24,000 that have read this thread, I'm pretty sure some else is trying this but not reporting.

Don't get me wrong, if I start seeing positive reports from various sufferers, I'm all in. And thank you David for trying to help.
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Sure nothing against you, it's just frustrating. I did not know it would be so difficult to give hope to people for free and so many try to stop me.
 
#1,009
leledany said:
@RichL did you use the recommended headphones?
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Yes as I alluded to earlier in this thread.

R. David Case said:
Yea sounds like you had it too low of volume. Having tinnitus 29 years causes a lot of brain damage and would take much longer for the Tinnitus Mix to work. If you did not get the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones it will not work either.
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I used the recommended headphones and I'm sure you said in previous comments that as long as you can hear the mix it would still be okay because it still is audible to the brain?
So you recommend using it for longer?
Have you any further recommendations or advice?
 
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#1,010
R. David Case said:
Well I have tested many headphones and the Koss works the best, we can argue over 22.05 kHz but that is still ultrasonic range. I am just saying if you look at the output graph of any device it doesn't just stop at a certain frequency, there is a curve, the higher the frequency the lower the output.
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The curve is simply a gain vs frequency curve. It tells you how much attenuation your signal is going to suffer based on its frequency.

It means that if your signal had any energy at, say, 23 kHz, it would be attenuated by a factor of X decibels.

However, if you feed it a signal that maxes out at 22.05 kHz, it is not going to magically create energy above that value.

There is no ultrasound coming out of a 22.05 kHz band signal by definition. The ultrasonic range is defined as the range that starts where humans stop hearing. Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound - "Ultrasound is sound waves with frequencies higher than the upper audible limit of human hearing."

The CD format that your file uses (44.1 kHz sampling) is defined to encode sound up to the limit that humans can hear, which is, by definition, the lower bound of the ultrasonic range. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio#Audio_format - "The audio contained in a CD-DA consists of two-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz." and "An audio CD can represent frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, the Nyquist frequency of the 44.1 kHz sample rate."

So no, there is no overlap, by the very definition of what ultrasounds are.
 
#1,011
gorzakus said:
That's great you listened for the three weeks @RichL and thanks for the info, sorry it didn't help you but if you think the volume is really too low to have any effect then you are only adding stress and anxiety I think.

I can only let you know that for me it helped during use so I guess it doesn't work for everyone. I hope your hissing goes down again soon.
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Thanks and I'm glad it helped you, I'm not entirely sure that it did cause any increase in my tinnitus because I hardly had it on any sort of volume, as I said because of my paranoia etc, it was hardly drowning out my tinnitus and my perception of my tinnitus was last measured 4 years ago at being 25 dB, as static noise at 29 dB drowned my tinnitus out so if it was hardly audible over that, then it would have been at barely 25 dB and that is between rustling of leaves and barely a whisper at 3 feet away.
 
#1,012
GregCA said:
The curve is simply a gain vs frequency curve. It tells you how much attenuation your signal is going to suffer based on its frequency.

It means that if your signal had any energy at, say, 23 kHz, it would be attenuated by a factor of X decibels.

However, if you feed it a signal that maxes out at 22.05 kHz, it is not going to magically create energy above that value.

There is no ultrasound coming out of a 22.05 kHz band signal by definition. The ultrasonic range is defined as the range that starts where humans stop hearing. Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound - "Ultrasound is sound waves with frequencies higher than the upper audible limit of human hearing."

The CD format that your file uses (44.1 kHz sampling) is defined to encode sound up to the limit that humans can hear, which is, by definition, the lower bound of the ultrasonic range. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio#Audio_format - "The audio contained in a CD-DA consists of two-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz." and "An audio CD can represent frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, the Nyquist frequency of the 44.1 kHz sample rate."

So no, there is no overlap, by the very definition of what ultrasounds are.
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Wow, that sounds awfully technical and way over my head. Bottom line do you think the https://www.amazon.com/AcousticSheep-SleepPhones-Classic-Headphones-Medium/dp/B0046H8ZHS/ would be adequate for his tinnitus mix.? I don't know how to do URL shortening yet.

What size do I order if I have large head but a small brain? :)
 
#1,013
just1morething said:
Someone told me that if I ask a dumb question that I will get a dumb answer, so I try to engage my brain before my mouth (or keyboard).

Those SleepPhones look nice even if you are listening to Simply Noise nature sounds.
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@gorzakus, that post was not directed at you at all. Just something I heard before that was a bit humorous.

Did you order the medium size SleepPhones or the large?
 
#1,015
Night 5: not enough sleep (5 hours).
Day 5: mid tone: 40 / high tone: 45.
"Mosquito effect" +5%= 10%.

Before the Tinnitus Mix mid tone: 30 / high tone: 20.

I drank alcohol yesterday and I know it has an influence.
I continue...
 
#1,017
#1,018
RichL said:
Thanks and I'm glad it helped you, I'm not entirely sure that it did cause any increase in my tinnitus because I hardly had it on any sort of volume, as I said because of my paranoia etc, it was hardly drowning out my tinnitus and my perception of my tinnitus was last measured 4 years ago at being 25 dB, as static noise at 29 dB drowned my tinnitus out so if it was hardly audible over that, then it would have been at barely 25 dB and that is between rustling of leaves and barely a whisper at 3 feet away.
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If I were you I would increase volume and try again.
 
#1,019
GregCA said:
The curve is simply a gain vs frequency curve. It tells you how much attenuation your signal is going to suffer based on its frequency.

It means that if your signal had any energy at, say, 23 kHz, it would be attenuated by a factor of X decibels.

However, if you feed it a signal that maxes out at 22.05 kHz, it is not going to magically create energy above that value.

There is no ultrasound coming out of a 22.05 kHz band signal by definition. The ultrasonic range is defined as the range that starts where humans stop hearing. Reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrasound - "Ultrasound is sound waves with frequencies higher than the upper audible limit of human hearing."

The CD format that your file uses (44.1 kHz sampling) is defined to encode sound up to the limit that humans can hear, which is, by definition, the lower bound of the ultrasonic range. Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Digital_Audio#Audio_format - "The audio contained in a CD-DA consists of two-channel signed 16-bit Linear PCM sampled at 44,100 Hz." and "An audio CD can represent frequencies up to 22.05 kHz, the Nyquist frequency of the 44.1 kHz sample rate."

So no, there is no overlap, by the very definition of what ultrasounds are.
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You have already posted that 22.5 kHz is technically ultrasonic, using the link in your post even Wikipedia says it is. As for the frequency output graph shows it just doesn't stop at 22.05 kHz, yes it is much lower but some higher frequencies get through to Koss headphones. You also must consider the very short pulses on Tinnitus Mix that act differently than audio waves.
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