What do you mean? My new improved version works fantascially well, now that I've added a laugh track.
Well you may try it on high frequency speakers but we are still testing and trying to see if there is a protocol that works for reactive tinnitus.
You must use the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones because hearing aids do not go high enough in frequency to make the ultra sonic harmonics.
I totally agree that noise can cause many problems, using headphones and noise exposure can even cause tinnitus and hearing loss. The weirdest thing is that Tinnitus Mix, when played on Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones causes neuroplasticity (neural healing or rebooting) so these specific sounds in Tinnitus Mix (and the 2.8 MHz) has stopped sound induced tinnitus in hundreds of people (band members, etc.), and improved hearing in many others. Several people on this forum reported improved hearing after using Tinnitus Mix per instructions. if you play it too loud or use wrong headphones, it won't work.Is it really good to listen to audio long term, i.e. during all the hours of sleep?
I'm still scared of listening to this despite wanting to give it a try and having the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones.
I found the question "Does prolonged exposure to low pitch but low volume noise affect hearing or stress?" and a response from one who claims to be a "Noise Engineer" who says this:
"I am a Noise Engineer and an Air-conditioning (Mechanical) Engineer, and it is my job to understand the effects of noise to our hearing capability. To start with an analogy, can you smell yourself on your pillow that you used for a long time (say 3 months)? You cannot, but a visitor who just borrowed your pillow for a night can smell it.
Now to answer the question directly, a "prolonged and constant" exposure to a low level noise, even less than 30 dBA (whisper), can cause hearing loss. Specific study showed that exposure to 40 dBA on specific frequency for 3 months will cause a hearing loss on that frequency. Notorious about this common occupational risk are those working in an improperly designed air handling system, those living/working a 2 km radius from a Wind Turbine, those living within a 1.5 km from a sub-station transformer, and many more.
What causes hearing loss is not the sound(pressure/level) itself, but the SOUND POWER. Power is a product of sound level/pressure/energy and TIME! A Firecracker is an explosion that has very high sound energy but short duration. A wind turbine sound has very low sound energy but very long duration. In effect, the product or result is the same.
I hope this has answered directly the question and put the issue to rest."
What do you think of that, @R. David Case?
I know they're speaking of a constant frequency there, but I wonder if listening to the same sound/music over and over won't risk damaging the hearing too? I'm afraid that's what I have done to my left ear and I was listening to music with my phone in speaker mode next to me in bed at a volume of average 35 dB sometimes peaking at 50 dB. Shouldn't be harmful, but I've been playing the same tracks (which all are quite similar – sweeping synth and piano) over and over again for many nights in a row.
Here's what I listened to when I got my latest tinnitus – "Sleeping Music" on the service Tidal:
https://tidal.com/browse/album/77525403
If you read the whole thread, you would see all of the positive posts from Tinnitus Talk members. Many here are scared to post positive results because members will ridicule them in disbelief. Many that see good results don't want their name plastered all over the internet, I don't blame them, so I try to remove names. Only about 19 people report trying Tinnitus Mix on this thread, about 12 report good results:
For what it is worth, I would imagine that far more than 19 people have given this a try after 98 pages of a discussion thread. For example I gave it a brief try before putting the headphones back on the shelf, but never made any comment.
David, we thump thumbs on the back of our heads, eat every supplement imaginable, fast, give up coffee, alcohol, music, zap our tongues while listening to weird noises, get experimental drugs injected into our ears, walk around with earplugs in, give up hobbies and friends, spend thousand of dollars on useless treatments, I even went to a traditional healer who blew smoke over me and stuck his fingers so far in my ears I thought they would touch in the middle, and we post our way without embarrassment on Tinnitus Talk through every step of the journey; playing some sounds on headphones while sleeping is one of the last strange things I have tried and hardly ridicule worthy.
I am very, very far away from being a medical professional, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but as you just got tinnitus last month caused by headphone use, I think the overwhelming consensus from both the Tinnitus Talk community and from the medical community would be to stay away from headphones for the time being.Another fascinating thread on Tinnitus Talk. This forum is interesting to say the least... not sure what to think of this one. Who knew getting tinnitus would expose me to all of this
What are the Sony noise-cancelling headphones that have worked with Tinnitus Mix, David? I have the MX3. I might give this a shot.
Well said, @AfroSnowman!
That's great. If you read the entire thread you will find that about 60% of those that said they tried Tinnitus Mix got good results. I think you are right that many more people have tried Tinnitus Mix and got good results but never post ANYTHING. So I can't count them, only the ones that post results. I get emails all the time saying "sorry, it's been 8 months and I have not got back with you but your CD worked great."Well said, @AfroSnowman!
I'm no doubter or naysayer, @R. David Case, but I do believe in the power of statistics to sort fact from fiction. Doing stats and coding are a big part of my daily job. That said, if you have data you could supply to me that shows the number of people who have tried your product and the number who have benefitted from it, I will donate my time to analyze that dataset (some kind of generalized linear model with a binomial distribution) and report the results here. Surely the data will not have been binned by participant characteristics, but it could help others here (including myself) know whether it's worthwhile to continue adding to this thread. The analysis for that kind of data is extremely simple... there is truly no reason whatsoever not to do such an analysis. If what you say is true, the results I'll provide would only strengthen your case. Let me know if you would send that dataset over to me.
Ciao!
EDIT: With David's data, I would also like to solicit responses from people here or elsewhere who (1) have tinnitus, and (2) have listened to something on headphones at some point in time while having tinnitus. This would enable comparisons among the two groups. Super not FDA-approved, FYI, but hell, it's better than 98 pages of conjecture
I agree totally that some sounds played over headphones (especially poor quality ones) can cause tinnitus. My girlfriend got tinnitus from working at McDonalds by using their headphones. But here is what makes Tinnitus Mix different and what makes it knock out tinnitus: the buttercake of sound waves are forming a 2.8 MHz harmonic, when this harmonic hits the coils of the KOSS KTX-PRO1 headphones, the harmonic is reproduced by way of MAGNETOSTRICTION. No other system does that out there.
There are only a few headphones that will reproduce the 2.8 MHz harmonic. The best is the Koss KTX-PRO1 and they are dirt cheap at $19. Another one is the earbuds by 1MORE brand called Triple Drivers. And then there is the Bose noise-cancelling headphones at $350.Another fascinating thread on Tinnitus Talk. This forum is interesting to say the least... not sure what to think of this one. Who knew getting tinnitus would expose me to all of this
What are the Sony noise-cancelling headphones that have worked with Tinnitus Mix, David? I have the MX3. I might give this a shot.
I'm no doctor but I think you are giving very dangerous advice if you are recommending people with recent onset tinnitus from noise trauma to use your or any sound therapy.
There is a simple way to find those posts in this thread. As these are screenshots, you can't copy and paste, but just write down a phrase from the post you want to find, go to Search , type in the phrase ( make sure no typos) and select "Search in this thread only". You will get the original posts in their contexts.
As @Ultra said, you can search and read all posts yourself. You don't seem to want to read the thread and want me to do everything for you.
Sifting through 98 pages of literature to find data points is not a good use of my time. You are the expert of your system, so if you indeed have data, I will donate my expertise in statistics to analyze those data, as I suggested. Keep in mind that missing data (i.e. folks who don't provide feedback on your system) is not data, so they don't count. Vague responses are also not data, so statements such as "CD worked great" does not allow us to use a binary scoring system of "yes, it worked for me" versus "no, didn't work for me".
How are you playing Tinnitus Mix on speakers? Are you still getting better sleep from using Tinnitus Mix?
Come on. Please share the names of folks from Tinnitus Talk that have reported on using your system. You have them or at least the subset that have reported positive results.
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