Is It True That Some People's Tinnitus Go Away?

@Relic Hunter,

I don't believe its a matter of psychological profile but a case of physical differences. I find it rather weird that "medical people" are so firm in their physical T theories but when it comes to volume they are all leaning towards psychological aspects. It is and will always be contradictory. Some of us are unlucky enough to have severe T, it's just how it is. I have a bad case of H on top of that as well, I also envy those who can only hear a faint whistle or very low tones. I guess it's good to know that it's possible to experience progress, thus meaning lower volume, but I can't say I agree with those who says it's an achievement - as in something we need to achieve. I don't feel T is something I can think myself to shrink, at least I can't. All kudos to those who feel they can. In my world habituation is another word for getting used too, and you can't sit down and decide to get used to it. Time is the only carrier of habitation I think. However, I do think it's possible to accept it and perhaps the key to some "progress" can lay within those terms.
 
Relic Hunter, I am worse than you.
I think we need to band together those few of us who have been told by our audiologists that we are the worst and contact the Tinnitus Research Initiative so they could study us as a group.
What exactly sets our brains apart from non-suffering tinnitus people...
Otherwise they just keep picking a random group where MAYBE 1 person is severe and the rest are mild/moderate.
 
@Per often specialists tend to acknowledge physical symptoms by waving them off as psychological issues.
Not to underestimate the psyche, nor to overestimate the specialists, when experts are unsure of their field it's so easy waving it off as being subconcious (quite dangerous for one's rights to be diagnosed and taken seriously yeah)

I can only second those contradictions you mention. Personally the vol of my t can be modified only by tweaking my head in special ways, to become Extremely loud - ofc as a psychosomatic result of something subconcious -.-.. Hard to argue with subconcious 'facts'.

As for whether it can go away or not. Two days ago I had a t-free second, not sure what happened, yesterday it happened again but it was different. It was as if my ear shut off so I can't be sure if it was temporary deafness but I didn't hear the t, making it diffused and very interesting.
 
I do think that Tinnitus in itself is a purely physical thing. A short circuit in the brain or whatever but purely physical. We are not generating our tinnitus thru a thought process or even a subconscious thought process.

I also believe our reaction to it is mostly a physical thing. When I first went into a treatment program with the VA. my Dr. told me that tinnitus sets up in our body a FIGHT or FLIGHT reflex and this F & F reflex was the first thing I must overcome if I ever was going to be better.

Being ex-military and a fireman for years I was already familiar with F & F but really did not apply it to my tinnitus .
I was experiencing the same physical reactions to my tinnitus as I experienced in actual life and death situations.

My adrenaline level was up, my heartbeat faster, I was tense and anxious, afraid and doing my best to control the panic. Above all I was completely focused on the situation and that situation was tinnitus.

I see the same pattern of fear, hopelessness , anxiety, desperation in the posts of people here. Most especially the people who are just first experiencing their tinnitus.

I am a rational, logical thinking person. It did not take me long, as it does most people, to realize that tinnitus posed no real threat to me. It was not a symptom of cancer, nor would it cause cancer, I was not crazy because I had it or any other thing. It was just a noise. Yes, just a little noise.

Why is it that most people with tinnitus come to the same conclusion and allow themselves to "standdown" from this proposed threat and go on with their life. Why is it that people with even severe tinnitus adapt and move on while others with just mild tinnitus never cope. I believe the answer lies somewhere deep within the psychic nature of the individual.

I am stuck in a constant FIGHT or FLIGHT mode with my tinnitus and for whatever reason I think that reason is purely psychological. I am at constant war. I will not surrender. I will not compromise. Why?
 
Why is it that most people with tinnitus come to the same conclusion and allow themselves to "standdown" from this proposed threat and go on with their life. Why is it that people with even severe tinnitus adapt and move on while others with just mild tinnitus never cope. I believe the answer lies somewhere deep within the psychic nature of the individual.
Well, I have elaborated on this earlier but to me it's all about the volume. That's the thing that defines the severity of the condition to me. Low T = relief. Loud T= Suffering. I'm sorry to say that I have a severe T thus meaning loud volume. Hoping to habituate by time, but as I have written before I do not agree with those who say it's an achievement, cause that's like saying I CHOOSE not to get lower T because I LISTEN to the T. That's rubbish in my mind. Some people have it mild, others have it hard. It's like my tooth ache analogy, two people can have the same loose tooth, one is fine with no pain the other one is struck by terrible tooth ache - perhaps the third has a mild version of what the second person has etc. As this forum is telling us, we come in all shapes and sizes in terms of T. Some have T&H, some just T, others have multiple tones and others have the same static noise. I think people in the medical environment should stop defining T as ONE condition with ONE color, it simply doesn't correspond with the truth and saying "don't listen to it cause that is what makes the volume loud" is almost an insult. It's loud anyways for many of us.

Last night I felt kinda mellow, my heartbeat was relaxed and I didn't feel anxious or worried about anything in specific, yet my T was raging mad on typical loud level.
 
In some paper, it was explained that for those who had a tinnitus associated with a high level of distress, the noise volume mattered. For those who were fine, volume didn't matter and could eventually be high. I hear my tinnitus over a busy street and music on headphones. When i go to bed it is like my head was exploding.

But i am still fine. I was worried about the eventual variations of intensity of my tinnitus in my early times. Now i do not care.
 
Yes, I had T about 15 years ago. It stuck around for awhile then was gone. I don't know if it disappeared gradually or suddenly or if I habituated to it or if it truly went away, but I never heard it again during all those years. I have it again... For about 4 weeks now. It's changed for the better during this time. I can tell that the ringing is predominately in my left ear. The hum/hiss is softening (although I had a miserable day and night a couple days ago). I still hear the slight ring most of the time, though not always, in my left ear.
 
Well, I have elaborated on this earlier but to me it's all about the volume. That's the thing that defines the severity of the condition to me. Low T = relief. Loud T= Suffering. I'm sorry to say that I have a severe T thus meaning loud volume.
Very interesting... I have read that the degree of severity is not on the actual volume of the T sound, but rather the patient perceived volume. A person with high volume T may perceive it as not as bothersome as a person with lower volume T perceives theirs.


*** Sorry. I suppose I don't know how to quote others here.
 
Well, I have elaborated on this earlier but to me it's all about the volume. That's the thing that defines the severity of the condition to me. Low T = relief. Loud T= Suffering. I'm sorry to say that I have a severe T thus meaning loud volume. Hoping to habituate by time, but as I have written before I do not agree with those who say it's an achievement, cause that's like saying I CHOOSE not to get lower T because I LISTEN to the T. That's rubbish in my mind. Some people have it mild, others have it hard. It's like my tooth ache analogy, two people can have the same loose tooth, one is fine with no pain the other one is struck by terrible tooth ache - perhaps the third has a mild version of what the second person has etc. As this forum is telling us, we come in all shapes and sizes in terms of T. Some have T&H, some just T, others have multiple tones and others have the same static noise. I think people in the medical environment should stop defining T as ONE condition with ONE color, it simply doesn't correspond with the truth and saying "don't listen to it cause that is what makes the volume loud" is almost an insult. It's loud anyways for many of us.

Last night I felt kinda mellow, my heartbeat was relaxed and I didn't feel anxious or worried about anything in specific, yet my T was raging mad on typical loud level.

There is absolutely no question in my mind: volume is the biggest factor in the annoyance of T. The higher the volume, the greater the annoyance, the greater the anxiety.

I am doing much better with T than when it all started, and I can say that the vast majority of the time it does not bother me. The times when it does bother me a little is when it is the loudest. I always still hear it, but most of the time I don't pay attention to it anymore. That is not something I consciously achieved as @Per has mentioned. It is just something that happened on its own schedule over time.

I believe it is possible to get used to even loud T, but I think it stands to reason that the louder it is, the more difficult it is to get used to it. I don't think any amount of rationalizing (telling yourself it is harmless), or any effort expending on accepting it makes a bit of difference on the time frame in which habitation happens. It just happens gradually over time. That is not to say that one cannot do things to ease the suffering from T. I think that reminding oneself that it is not cancer, and working to accept that it is part of you can help ease the mental anguish and maybe get over the anxiety that T can cause, but I do not think there is anything anyone can do short of iffy neuromodulation therapy to affect the speed at which habitation happens.
 
Very interesting... I have read that the degree of severity is not on the actual volume of the T sound, but rather the patient perceived volume. A person with high volume T may perceive it as not as bothersome as a person with lower volume T perceives theirs.
As mentioned many times here on this forum, both from me and others that have severe T. The volume IS paramount and that is what defines the condition, those who differ do not have severe T and/or they simply don't know what makes T destroy lives. The concept of T is all about unwanted sound/tones, obviously the volume will be of utmost importance in the fight to cope. Low T is easier to cope with than really loud T. It's rather simple math. "The patient perceived volume" is as I have pointed out before a theory it's hard to consume. That's like saying pain is pain and there's no mild or hard pain levels. Or a person with a knife in the back COULD cope better then a person with a knife in the leg. It's too naive to compare that way. It's an insult if u ask me. Yes, some ppl. cope better than others, but still its's the volume that defines the condition, like its the pain that defines the severity of a tooth ache although both patients have the same loose tooth. I believe that to be a good analogy. A sound is defined on it db, that's how we measure its strength, the higher the db the more damage it can do, to people standing around consuming those airwaves to their hearing system, if the sound level is way lower that sound decreases in threat and danger. It is far easier to cope and be social in a room with a moderate sound level then if it was madly loud. Yeah, there's always some freak that would work fine in the max volume setting, but the vast majority would prefer moderate levels. It's no difference with T&H. My T is loud and if I could lower it with just 20% I would feel a lot better! Trust you me. It would decrease my stress hormones, my tens neck muscles and my mental agony of having to have loud T&H. If my H went 20% less sensitive it would make a big difference too. It would be easier to socialize, go out and talk to ppl. and open my life more. Again, its the severity of T&H that defines the condition. And the severity can only be measured in loudness. To be honest, If my T was down like 50% I wouldn't even bother now. Theres a lot of people on this forum that had moderate T for 10 years but when they experienced a substantial increased T volume they became sick very fast, and they started going here. I read about that all the time.

Well, here on this forum we are well aware about the agony of T&H, we all know more than the next what makes us tick and not. The thresholds differ but the volume is a key factor to feel in some sort of control. Mad loud T will generate pain, fear and mental pressure. Moderate to low T levels will better these parameters. If I meet a doctor that say "Stop listening to your T, it will just make it louder" I will have to give him an honest and deserved spank. I demand to be taken seriously and hearing nonsense like that from people that don't even have the T themselves don't have the slightest idea how it is. Please, fluffy theories and wild presumptions don't go well with me.
 
Thank you for that, Per. I appreciate your explanation. Is an audiologist able to measure T volume? I'm thinking I need to see an audiologist to have my hearing tested soon anyhow. I suppose it may be hard to image what another's T sounds like. I've tried describing mine to my husband, and although he's sympathetic, I'm sure he can't truly understand.
 
Thank you for that, Per. I appreciate your explanation. Is an audiologist able to measure T volume? I'm thinking I need to see an audiologist to have my hearing tested soon anyhow. I suppose it may be hard to image what another's T sounds like. I've tried describing mine to my husband, and although he's sympathetic, I'm sure he can't truly understand.
I'm picking up my white noise generator next week, the audiologist never measured my T levels as far as I know but I guess I will be offered to see my audiogram, a visualization of my hearing test. I also did a speech test and a threshold test for my H. It's the latter the noise generator is supposed to treat by wearing it for a long time. I know it's possible to actually measure the T frequency but if they assume that levels don't make any difference with the patient I guess they never consider to inform the patients. My experience is that they walk like sheep's in the same paths, read the same books, conduct the identical tests and think the same stuff on T - until some wise doc. comes around introducing new ideas and theories. Remember, it wasn't too long that EVERY doctor working with T believed that it was 100% noise inducted and NOTHING else. After some time neural science introduced the auditory brain cortex and all of a sudden it was more like a brain disorder, not a mechanical destruction of the inner ear. These medical environments have been going back and forth with these theories for years now. I don't listen too seriously to any of them now cause it's really impossible to KNOW cause T is all about theories, assumptions, philosophies and guesswork.

All I know is that having severe T&H sucks and I would do a lot to get rid of it. At least to get the loud level lowered to a volume where I can hear myself think. Then my next goal is to re-train my brain to accept high frequency sounds better, I believe I can get hypersensitivity less hyper by time. There are many reports of H getting better by time.
 
I'm not sure what caused mine in either instance. I work in a trophy shop (I'm the graphic artist there, I get to redraw logos when folks bring me really bad versions of theirs, adjust photographs, set up files for glass etching, etc.). But I'm also in the same room with our three laser engravers. Two of them are small and relatively quiet, but the third is a heavier-duty fellow with louder cooling fans. None of these are on ALL DAY, but all of them are on SOME of each day, sometimes two at a time, on rare occasions all three. The first time I got T we had ONE entirely different machine (an extremely quiet one) but the exhaust blower for it was mounted above the ceiling tile (and that was pretty loud). But in spite of no change in my work surroundings at that time, the T still went away that first time. I went for years afterward in the same situation with no T. We even remodeled the room and shunted the exhaust blowers (by now there are two) to the outside of the building entirely. Now the main source of noise is that one larger engraver - it's a large-wattage model and as such needs more cooling, hence more fans - it's almost as loud as the blowers used to be. I work with a few other folks in this same room, one of whom has been there longer than I have (which for me is fifteen years) - no one else has developed T. Just me, sigh....
One morning about three years ago, I woke up and the noise was back in my head. A DIFFERENT noise than what I remembered from before - higher pitched, and accompanied by a clattering rattling noise. That clattering noise comes and goes - which is good because it's the sound that drives me up the wall the most - and four doctors later I think I've heard the gamut of comments. First doctor (general practitioner): "Sorry. This isn't my specialty, I really have NO idea. Let's send you to an ENT". 2nd doctor, ENT #1: "Let's wait a while, it will probably go away on its own". After about eight months and two hearing tests that said my hearing was normal for my age bracket (I'm 54) with only the hearing loss that would be attributable to simply being middle-aged present - nothing out of the ordinary that someone could point to and say "see, right here, this is probably where your T is coming from" - and after being patted on the back by the other doctors and told "it'll go away" I went for ENT #2 and had another hearing test, with the same results - this one said flat-out and rather coldly, "Nothing I can do for you. Sorry." and all but ushered me out of the office, with an over-the-shoulder comment as he walked away of "If it bothers you that much maybe you can try biofeedback". I left that office crying my eyes out. For a while I didn't go anywhere else ... just discouraged. Finally I heard of a TRT program in UPMC and I signed up for that - the doctor there was very kind, very honest, but totally sold on his program (he has T also and evidently the retraining therapy worked for him) - as in, if this doesn't work for you there's nothing else in his arsenal to offer. I paid the $500 to sign up, I got hearing test #4 - same results as the other three - and I bought the $1800 pair of sound generators and started wearing them. Now, the doctor had said that the T would probably be worse for a little while when I started - I had no idea HOW MUCH WORSE. For me, it spiked through the roof, got so bad I was hitting my own head trying to stop this new wall of sound. I couldn't take it - I returned the generators in three weeks. The doc said this TRT program has an 80% success rate - I guess I'm in that 20% for whom the treatment was worse than the disease, so to speak.
That was back in May and I haven't been to a hearing doctor since. I've just been working on adapting my attitude rather than trying to fix the T. I don't know if it's a result of my attempts at attitude adjustment or not, but within the last few months the T seems to be a bit quieter on average; it DOES spike routinely but I seem to be able to handle those spikes a bit better and on the quieter days I can go for good periods of time without fixating on it. I *always*, at some level, know it's there - it just doesn't annoy me as much most times now. The first year I think I got maybe two hours sleep a night because of the T, and was seriously depressed and quite panicky; the family doctor prescribed Elavil, which didn't do a thing as a mood drug but was surprisingly effective as a sleeping pill. I didn't like developing a dependence on a prescription drug to sleep, though, so I switched to over-the-counter Alteril (melatonin/l-tryptophan) which works just as well - indeed, a little better because it sometimes calms the T down at night too, it's often noticeably quieter after I take a couple of those. They do make you quite drowsy, though - that's their function, so it's not like I can take 'em all day to suppress the T :)
I have a loving, supportive significant other (feels weird to say "boyfriend" when we're in our mid-50s, LOL!!) and I thank God that he's been there for me throughout. He held me while I cried myself out night after night because I couldn't find any peace anywhere, and indeed he helped me "hold it together" simply by letting me lean on him. Not once has he ever said anything condescending or belittled what I felt, and that's been a gift beyond compare.
 
@AnnieM,

Sorry to hear about your reaction to that sound generator. At least you are on the right track now with periods of lower T. Your wrote in your other post that this is your second bout with T, have you received any response from any medical people after you lost T the first time around and what reflections do you make yourself from that experience? How did that come about? Did you have it bad the first time around and constant? Anything in your life that changed around that time? Did it go away suddenly or fade?

You obviously don't have severe hearing loss or any hearing loss at all (except from the normal age based loss) as all those tests are showing. So could it be stress inducted? Have you made any reflection to what extent other factors could have played a role in you being able to loose the T the first time around? And of course, why it returned? I've never heard of any case quite like yours myself although I have trough this forum read stories on others that had moderate T for a long time then followed by a spike lasting for years. But you write you got rid of T all together and then was without any T for years, right?
 
Hello. I am new to this board. My heart goes out to everyone. I am 60 years old. A little over two weeks ago, my husband and I went to a very, VERY loud, two hour long, heavy metal concert that was indoors. I had forgotten my ear plugs. My husband never wears ear plugs. I had some cotton in my purse so I shoved that in my ears, which didn't help. We should have left. The next morning I had the intense tinnitus. Mine is like crickets and like a hissing sound in the whole head with pressure in both ears. It is constant. I can hear it over the motor of the car. I am very depressed. It affected me way worse than my husband. He had a little tinnitus the next morning that lasted about a week, and now it has faded. He gets some sounds once in a while, now. He works with power tools and already had a slight tinnitus, but nothing bad. I guess he has strong ear drums. He is fine. We are all different. My ears have hurt for most of the time after the concert. My ears feel "full," like there is pressure. I am hoping the tinnitus will go away. My son said it would go away. He told me he went to very loud concerts when he was in his late teens and he got tinnitus. He said it went away after a while. I told him that he was in his teens, and I am in my 60's, and there is a difference. He is in his late twenties now, and his tinnitus never came back. He continues to go to loud concerts but doesn't wear ear plugs. I told him please wear them. He won't. My daughter, who is in her late twenties, told me the tinnitus would go away. She told me that she wears ear plugs to concerts, but she said she did go to some concerts and did not wear ear plugs and got the loud tinnitus. She said it lasted for a while, and then it went away. I want to have hope, and I want everyone here to have hope. Sometimes the tinnitus sounds like a low tone with pressure in my ears. This is maddening. Twice, in the two weeks after the concert, it seemed the sound got less, but it didn't last. Very frustrating. Right now the sound is very loud like hissing and crickets with that terrible ear pressure. So difficult to endure. Peace to everyone. I want us all to be healed. Thank you for this message board.
 
I used to hear loud humming in my head most of my life, it would come and go for weeks and months at a time, I was so crazy habituated to it though, to the point where it was pretty much non existent and when I did (rarely) focus on it, it was actually comforting. Weird aye?

I also had pulsatile tinnitus when I first got tinnitus which went away, this also happened to my sister - she had pulsatile tinnitus out of nowhere for about 3 months.

I've read quite a few stories where people "lose" their tinnitus, and many more who achieve real habituation to the point where it doesn't affect them anymore.

My dad also had tinnitus but had no idea what it was or cared for it, the only way I found out was by asking if he heard anything in his head and made the typically hissing noise and he was like "oooh yeah, I do", then that was it - never stopped him from functioning, and he was pretty deaf (worked with super loud tools and never, ever, wore ear plugs) also so I'm guessing his tinnitus would've been quite significant. I also found out my sisters boyfriend had it, but only because I brought it up one night at dinner and he was like, "oh that static noise?" - he didn't even know what tinnitus was but said if he focused on it, he could hear what he described as static - never bothered him either. A couple friends also have tinnitus and laughed when I was worried about it, they've had it a lot longer and don't care about it.[/quote

Omg all my life i realized i had that
Low huming in my head kinda like a lil vibration in the really quiet
Places.. And it was always really relaxing lol i wish i just had that forever instead
 
I strongly believe that if I didn't attend the concert in November, which caused my spike/hyperacusis, my T would have gone away. I could sit in a totally quiet room and plug my ears and hardly hear it. It had become 8x quieter than it was from my initial onset.

Here's to hoping that can happen again.
 
Mines got better in 5 weeks. But the hearing system heals very slowly according to doctors. So I expect it will take quite a while for me to know if its permanent or not.
 
I have had T for around 3 years. I believe it is due to meds I have to take. At first, when I discontinued the offending medication, it went away at least to my level of awareness. Now I have found there are othere meds that have this SE which sucks, but some have no substitutions.

Someone above asked about the sound of silence. I loved the mountains and desert and the absence of traffic and city noise. When I was younger, I know there was no ringing in my ears. Probably won't ever have quite the same quiet experience again. But I have learned to pay less attention to it and focus on other things. I am still able to enjoy the things I used to love. (except for some physical activities on hold)

I am sure I don't have the severity that plagues some members. I consider mine moderate. Sitting here now, focused on it, with daytime sounds, my fiance watching tv, traffic, kids next door, etc., I can hear the whir like a white halo around my head. And the intermittent ringing metallic sound. I use a small fan at night if it is bugging me. I also might bunch my pillows up so that there is an empty space below my ear - I'm a side sleeper.

Anyway, you can get used to it to one degree or another. As said above - I think it was Annie - it must depend on the degree of severity and a person's psychological responses. I know I felt anxiety and depression when it first appeared. I found coping mechanisms like white noise, meditation/visualization/relaxation, slow deep breathing, changing mental focus. I read till I am really sleepy. The reading distracts me, then falling to sleep is not bad. Most of the time if I'm not insomniac.

I hope many of you will be returned to blessed silence. But if you are not, just have patience, perseverance, and faith! Your quality of life may not have to suffer. My apologies to those whose symptoms are so severe, that they are not so optimistic.
 
Two days ago I had a t-free second, not sure what happened, yesterday it happened again but it was different. It was as if my ear shut off so I can't be sure if it was temporary deafness but I didn't hear the t, making it diffused and very interesting.
Fleeting tinnitus maybe? it is often preceded by a second of silence.
 
@Per often specialists tend to acknowledge physical symptoms by waving them off as psychological issues.
Not to underestimate the psyche, nor to overestimate the specialists, when experts are unsure of their field it's so easy waving it off as being subconcious (quite dangerous for one's rights to be diagnosed and taken seriously yeah)

I can only second those contradictions you mention. Personally the vol of my t can be modified only by tweaking my head in special ways, to become Extremely loud - ofc as a psychosomatic result of something subconcious -.-.. Hard to argue with subconcious 'facts'.

As for whether it can go away or not. Two days ago I had a t-free second, not sure what happened, yesterday it happened again but it was different. It was as if my ear shut off so I can't be sure if it was temporary deafness but I didn't hear the t, making it diffused and very interesting.

Could it be that there is some connection to the bloodflow???
 
@frohike no idea. I woke up tonight where one of my firm big tones had completely changed into a very sharp tone for 20 seconds. Basically my most intrusive tone changed 180degrees. The activity nomatter the shape is scary but still very interesting=)
 
Mine has changed a lot since it 1st began, and while it's worse now I've somehow adapted to it....I think the noises are capable of regressing back to the background a bit, that's what I have noticed . Just a shame new tones have come in to the front line bit at least i know they are capable of shifting a bit. Unless your t is from hair cell damage, loud noise over a long long time, I believe it could go down to a lower level or go altogether.
 
Ive had mega neck issues for some years, so it could very much contribute yeah, certainly doesnt help anything;\

Have you considered some alternative therapy? After I broke my arm in the winter I visited the reflexologist for a couple of times and that took the tension out uite nicely. She has helped many people with sportsi njuries. Of course I dont know what caused your problems but if its a good therapist it couldnt make it worse. I also have tension in the neck quite often but yoga thats away pretty fast. But that of course takes months of practice.
 
I have tried somedifferent kinds yeah jusr non of which worked unfortunately.

@Penelope33 several people with t from noise exposure have had decreases of their t, just like t caused by other things.:) some nothing, some a decrease, some t completely gone away.
 
After hearing so many things, is it truly possible that tinnitus can disappear fully. Or have you heard of anybody's tinnitus is going away without habituation?
 
Yes I have heard and read many such examples that T just disappears or fades over time. Perhaps it just goes back to the normal T that even normal persons can hear in a quiet room but nothing intrusive enough for attention or treatment.
 

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