Ketamine Relieves Depression by Restoring Brain Connections

[Michael Sullivan]

I stay away from louds clubs but do go to bars (with custom ear plugs). I don't have T from loud noises but have close friends who do, and they always wear ear plugs. I have bartender friends who don't have T but who also always wear ear plugs. It's just common sense to protect your hearing. There is nothing cool about damaging your hearing, like many people who go to rave or heavy metal concerts seem to believe. Give your ears love! Girls sometimes ask me why I have ear plugs, and I say something like "my ears are the opening to my heart, and it's sensitive and needs to be protected" and they usually laugh and couldn't care less about the ear plugs. So don't worry about that bit

My T isn't affected by anything as far as I know. Tried and tracked things like sleep, diet, stress etc but it's living its own life. Always changing, always several noises, always a pain in the ass. Never stable or consistent.

To summarize, you MUST protect your hearing and stay away from loud places (loud clubs, concerts, headphones etc) but don't let the T control you. Live your life and invest in developing yourself.

Hahahaha I love that line.
It is good to hear that it really isn't as big of a deal as I thought wearing earplugs in public was. Yeah most people neglect their hearing health until they have a problem. I used to listen to loud music through ear buds but have stopped. I'll be careful and I am going to invest in some custom earplugs. Yeah the T is starting to bother me less.

As far as headphone use goes, Is it a good idea to use Noise canceling headphones like Bose Quiet Comfort 35 and at a soft volume? The headphones supposedly lower 20 decibels of sound and are the best on the market. Like when I'm at the gym I rather wear those then wear nothing. I could even use them and play no music if I wanted. I read that headphone use is a bad idea if you have noise induced T which is me.

 

[PatrickG]

Hahahaha I love that line.
It is good to hear that it really isn't as big of a deal as I thought wearing earplugs in public was. Yeah most people neglect their hearing health until they have a problem. I used to listen to loud music through ear buds but have stopped. I'll be careful and I am going to invest in some custom earplugs. Yeah the T is starting to bother me less.

As far as headphone use goes, Is it a good idea to use Noise canceling headphones like Bose Quiet Comfort 35 and at a soft volume? The headphones supposedly lower 20 decibels of sound and are the best on the market. Like when I'm at the gym I rather wear those then wear nothing. I could even use them and play no music if I wanted. I read that headphone use is a bad idea if you have noise induced T which is me.

I have noise cancelling headphones at work but never have the noise canceling functionality activated. The reason is that there is a thread here somewhere on the forum where a lot of people reporting getting their T after using them. There is no study that confirms this but when you think about how noise canceling works then it can makes sense that it might damage your hearing. The head phones play counter sounds waves which makes it quiet but there is still sound waves going on. So, to be sure, don't use the noise cancelling function.

 

[Jim51042]

Ketamine prescriptions are in mainstream news.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-...sion-how-do-you-not-offer-this-drug-to-people

 

[Champ]

I have noise cancelling headphones at work but never have the noise canceling functionality activated. The reason is that there is a thread here somewhere on the forum where a lot of people reporting getting their T after using them. There is no study that confirms this but when you think about how noise canceling works then it can makes sense that it might damage your hearing. The head phones play counter sounds waves which makes it quiet but there is still sound waves going on. So, to be sure, don't use the noise cancelling function.

Yep, got my tinnitus from my Bose headphones.

 

[BuzzyBee]

Has anyone experienced relief from low dose ketamine infusions? Clinics are opening up all over the US to treat depression and chronic pain, and I've read the treatments can help tinnitus. It's confusing because most of what I read about ketamine is that it causes tinnitus.

 

[Mic]

New trial with Ketamine IV injection for the treatment of T started by New York State Psychiatric Institute. More info @ https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03336398?recrs=abdfm&cond=tinnitus&draw=3&rank=28

P.S.: Anybody any experience with this stuff??

 

[Benoves]

Looks like am101 to me, isn't it? Esketamine

 

[Mic]

Looks like am101 to me, isn't it? Esketamine

No... the compound is called ketamine and they are injecting it intravenous (directly in your veins). AM101 is called esketamine and is injected into the middle ear.

This is also explained on the clinicaltrails.gov page I provided with the link... please read first...

 

[WaqasVic]

I have noise cancelling headphones at work but never have the noise canceling functionality activated. The reason is that there is a thread here somewhere on the forum where a lot of people reporting getting their T after using them. There is no study that confirms this but when you think about how noise canceling works then it can makes sense that it might damage your hearing. The head phones play counter sounds waves which makes it quiet but there is still sound waves going on. So, to be sure, don't use the noise cancelling function.

Yes I only use my phone speaker with a noise cancellation app, the white noise. I only put it in low volume near my pillow it cancels the sound and puts me to sleep like a baby, and after that the app shuts itself down after like 15 to 20 minutes.

 

[EatMoTacos]

I have noise cancelling headphones at work but never have the noise canceling functionality activated. The reason is that there is a thread here somewhere on the forum where a lot of people reporting getting their T after using them. There is no study that confirms this but when you think about how noise canceling works then it can makes sense that it might damage your hearing. The head phones play counter sounds waves which makes it quiet but there is still sound waves going on. So, to be sure, don't use the noise cancelling function.

Isn't the counter sound outside the hearing range? I use mine all the time and haven't noticed an increase in my T or any adverse effect. I keep my volume low though because of the cancellation effect.

 

[Paul10]

A while back I had to take ketamine in the hospital. It's a mind-blowing drug but now that I think of it, my T didn't seem to bother me for the next week. Granted, I was also being injected with morphine that week and had other things to worry about, but I never really thought about it. Now I wish I'd known to actively watch out for if it had an effect on my T or not. I would NOT recommend taking this drug unless you're hooked up a machine and had a doctor by your side like I did.

 

[RichardGuy]

Sounds very interesting. A psychiatrist friend knows a doctor in Tampa who has a license to fool around with Ketamine. Anything I should ask about?

 

[Summers2]

Hello forum,
has anyone here tried ketamine therapy? From what I read it seems to be more effective when used before one year has passed.[1][2][3]
I am considering the the therapy offered by Arizona Ketamine Treatment & Research Institute in USA.[1]
It seems like the same therapy is used for depression. And that seems to be offered all over the US and in Europe.[4]
There is one trial I know of where ketamin is used. [5] And another where esketamin is used.[6]

1 http://arizonaketamine.com/tinnitus-treatment-ketamine/
2 https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/43843/title/The-Sounds-of-Silence/
3 https://labiotech.eu/hearing-loss-tinnitus-vertigo-auris-medical/
4 http://nyketamine.com/depression/contact-us/
5 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03336398
6 http://ir.aurismedical.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=253572&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2318777

 

[AZeurotuner]

Hello forum,
has anyone here tried ketamine therapy? From what I read it seems to be more effective when used before one year has passed.[1][2][3]
I am considering the the therapy offered by Arizona Ketamine Treatment & Research Institute in USA.[1]
It seems like the same therapy is used for depression. And that seems to be offered all over the US and in Europe.[4]
There is one trial I know of where ketamin is used. [5] And another where esketamin is used.[6]

1 http://arizonaketamine.com/tinnitus-treatment-ketamine/
2 https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/43843/title/The-Sounds-of-Silence/
3 https://labiotech.eu/hearing-loss-tinnitus-vertigo-auris-medical/
4 http://nyketamine.com/depression/contact-us/
5 https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03336398
6 http://ir.aurismedical.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=253572&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2318777

This right here piques my curiosity, and I happen to live in Arizona as well. Hmmmm....

 

[just1morething]

This treatment was brought up to me recently. I thought the cost was $600 for a 45 minute ketamine IV. I never met with the Dr. though for the specifics. Not covered by insurance as far as I know.

 

[just1morething]

This is the Dr. I was talking about. First time I've seen this video. I've been to this office to see other Dr.'s, but never met this Dr. so far. I am somewhat more interested now. I wonder if you have to buy a package of treatments or if you can purchase individual ones?

 

[jimH]

This treatment was brought up to me recently. I thought the cost was $600 for a 45 minute ketamine IV. I never met with the Dr. though for the specifics. Not covered by insurance as far as I know.

After suffering from depression for years, my niece had it done last year. Initially, the doctor said about six treatments is the average to achieve lasting improvement. However, after six treatments, she still lapsed back into depression. The doctor then recommended two more. Since the additional treatments, she's been doing very well. That was four months ago.

The doctor also stated that she can get additional treatments in the future if necessary.

Unfortunately, the treatments, which were $500 each, were not covered by her insurance.

 

[Summers2]

I was at a ketamine clinic yesterday, but just before we started the infusion I stopped the therapy. I am afraid of getting addicted and afraid it would change me. I've seen drug addicts that seem to live in their own world. I don't want to end up like that.
But... I also don't want to have this ringing in my ears, with the fatigue and depression that comes with it, for the rest of my life. I wish more was known about the therapy. Has anyone any stories to tell?

 

[AZmom]

I was at a ketamine clinic yesterday, but just before we started the infusion I stopped the therapy. I am afraid of getting addicted and afraid it would change me. I've seen drug addicts that seem to live in their own world. I don't want to end up like that.
But... I also don't want to have this ringing in my ears, with the fatigue and depression that comes with it, for the rest of my life. I wish more was known about the therapy. Has anyone any stories to tell?

I have been taking my daughter to Ketamine treatments for over a year. After the initial several treatments in a 2 week period, we do one treatment a month. Ketamine treatments have been one of the only things that work for her depression. She has never mentioned that she felt like she was addicted. Yet she has felt addicted to some of the other type of meds for depression and anxiety. She said it has saved her life. Good luck to you.

 

[AZmom]

Hello forum,
has anyone here tried ketamine therapy? From what I read it seems to be more effective when used before one year has passed.[1][2][3]
I am considering the the therapy offered by Arizona Ketamine Treatment & Research Institute in USA

I have been taking my daughter to Ketamine treatments for over a year to the Ketamine Wellness Centers in Mesa, AZ. After the initial several treatments in a 2 week period, we do one treatment a month. Ketamine treatments have been one of the only things that work for her depression. She said it has saved her life.

 

[just1morething]

Minnesota Ketamine clinic charges $600 per treatment. I asked him if it would help tinnitus and he said that he doesn't know as he has never treated anyone for that. I think $300 per treatment would be enough to charge. He said Ketamine substance itself is dirt cheap. I suppose $600 or so is the going rate with the IV, monitoring, etc. He said he has to eat too, haha, just kidding.

You need to have a driver after your treatment. I thought he said that you are a bit groggy.

 

[Summers2]

So I scheduled another another appointment. I hope I dare go through with it this time. It can't be that dangerous right? And the payoff, if it works, is huge

 

[Summers2]

So I am supposed to go tomorrow...

 

[just1morething]

So I am supposed to go tomorrow...

Please let us know about your experience if you go.

 

[jimH]

So I scheduled another another appointment. I hope I dare go through with it this time. It can't be that dangerous right? And the payoff, if it works, is huge

It worked wonders for my niece! She's doing so well now after years of depression and not improving after trying a variety of AD's. See my previous post above.

She did experience some light-headedness after the treatments. No severe reactions at all. You should have someone with you that can drive you home afterwards.

Good luck!....

 

[Summers2]

Thank you jimH. I am happy for your niece. My best friend will be there and follow me home. My biggest worry is that the ketamine could give me some form of brain damage, change my personality or make my psychotic for life. But I reason that they do give ketamine to healthy voluntaries for experiments and they wouldn't do that if the side effects are that severe.

 

[Paulmanlike]

New trial with Ketamine IV injection for the treatment of T started by New York State Psychiatric Institute. More info @ https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03336398?recrs=abdfm&cond=tinnitus&draw=3&rank=28

P.S.: Anybody any experience with this stuff??

@Aaron123 @attheedgeofscience What are your thoughts on this trial?
@HomeoHebbian
This is the first I knew about it. Completion date 2022 though... to see if it works on 40 people, you'll think they could do it faster if they really thought it would work.

 

[Summers2]

Hi. I emailed the physician and she said she felt that I was not ready for the therapy. I could contact her again after I've spoken with my psychologist again. So... I guess I will do that.

 

[Summers2]

http://www.ketamedhealth.com/services/tinnitus Another option. I'm surprised not more people here are engaged in finding out if this therapy works.

 

[BuzzyBee]

http://www.ketamedhealth.com/services/tinnitus Another option. I'm surprised not more people here are engaged in finding out if this therapy works.

I'm curious too! I wish someone who had experience with this would post. I wonder if the ketamine works for people with significant hearing loss or if it's just suited for those with mild anxiety related tinnitus.