Lenire — Bimodal Stimulation Treatment by Neuromod

Hopefully we will get Tesla like software updates. Either by download or by taking it back to the audiologist for an update.

Even though I'm sure this will remove what tinnitus I have left, it would always be nice to have more significant reductions across the board for us.
 
My boyfriend also has tinnitus and moderate (sometimes severe) hyperacusis. I was wondering if we both can use the same device with of course different applicators for the tongue. But I guess it should be calibrated to an individual's tinnitus & hearing characteristics... :/
 
My boyfriend also has tinnitus and moderate (sometimes severe) hyperacusis. I was wondering if we both can use the same device with of course different applicators for the tongue. But I guess it should be calibrated to an individual's tinnitus & hearing characteristics... :/
Probably not. It could possibly make your/his tinnitus worse by using another person's individual configurations.
 
Hopefully we will get Tesla like software updates. Either by download or by taking it back to the audiologist for an update.

Even though I'm sure this will remove what tinnitus I have left, it would always be nice to have more significant reductions across the board for us.
I love your optimism, I also have it mild and wish Lenire can cancel it completely.
 
Probably not. It could possibly make your/his tinnitus worse by using another person's individual configurations.
I hope the software allows us to use two different settings. Because 8000-9000 euros converted to Turkish Lira literally equals to the price of a second hand luxury car here...
 
I hope the software allows us to use two different settings. Because 8000-9000 euros converted to Turkish Lira literally equals to the price of a second hand luxury car here...
I'm pretty sure if you don't have detectable hearing loss up to 8 kHz (flat audiogram) than it wouldn't matter so you both can use it without readjusting the settings.
 
I hope the software allows us to use two different settings. Because 8000-9000 euros converted to Turkish Lira literally equals to the price of a second hand luxury car here...
Unless you have an audiologist in your country that is trained in configuring the device to an individual's profile (unlikely until it's sold there), it will be very difficult to do. And when it's sold in your country, they won't reconfigure a device they didn't sell you. Especially not for another person.
 
I've been putting a lot of thought into my own plan on how to get my hands on one of these when it's released. I'm in the US, but don't really want to wait another year or more to get one. I'm very curious about what the official treatment parameters are going to be. We found out from the most recent leak that changing the parameters six weeks into treatment provided the best results. Will this be implemented into the treatment?

I'm looking forward to hearing about experiences people have that travel to get this device before it's offered in their home country. If the device does need to be adjusted six weeks in that may deter some.

I have the means to travel to Ireland, buy the device, and return six weeks later if I had to. However, with my job and family responsibilities that's a logistical nightmare.

After watching the initial video with Ross O'Neill he acknowledged that people do travel for medical treatment, but I was left with the impression that he was hesitant to recommend it in this instance.
 
I've been putting a lot of thought into my own plan on how to get my hands on one of these when it's released. I'm in the US, but don't really want to wait another year or more to get one. I'm very curious about what the official treatment parameters are going to be. We found out from the most recent leak that changing the parameters six weeks into treatment provided the best results. Will this be implemented into the treatment?

I'm looking forward to hearing about experiences people have that travel to get this device before it's offered in their home country. If the device does need to be adjusted six weeks in that may deter some.

I have the means to travel to Ireland, buy the device, and return six weeks later if I had to. However, with my job and family responsibilities that's a logistical nightmare.

After watching the initial video with Ross O'Neill he acknowledged that people do travel for medical treatment, but I was left with the impression that he was hesitant to recommend it in this instance.
I am in the same boat as you spedgas. I am in the US as well. I can afford it and can work around the revisit in six weeks, but I would still hate to travel over there only to tell me it wouldn't work for me. I am wondering if we could send an audiogram over for review. As far as the six week change you'd think in this day and age they could do a direct firmware or parameter change through USB or something along those lines. I also do slightly worry about Customs, but I am sure you could get around it or possibly have it shipped back to the US. I don't really want to wait around for years for the FDA to approve this.

I am still holding out some hope for getting in the Minnesota trial since I am close, but it seems like it may be some time for the next trial to begin.
 
. As far as the six week change you'd think in this day and age they could do a direct firmware or parameter change through USB or something along those lines.
I saw that Neuromod were hiring IoT professional along with some HW specialist few months ago on LinkedIn.

I know a little about IoT devices combined with modern cloud-based options/technologies like Microsoft Azure or AWS by Amazon, so it should be pretty straight-forward to set whatever you need remotely, including internal settings, remote wipe, tracking... etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if they announced that they can manage it remotely, however it's most probably going to be used under the supervision of a suitably qualified healthcare professional... (Germany, UK, Ireland?)...
 
I am in the same boat as you spedgas. I am in the US as well. I can afford it and can work around the revisit in six weeks, but I would still hate to travel over there only to tell me it wouldn't work for me. I am wondering if we could send an audiogram over for review. As far as the six week change you'd think in this day and age they could do a direct firmware or parameter change through USB or something along those lines. I also do slightly worry about Customs, but I am sure you could get around it or possibly have it shipped back to the US. I don't really want to wait around for years for the FDA to approve this.

I am still holding out some hope for getting in the Minnesota trial since I am close, but it seems like it may be some time for the next trial to begin.
Do you believe everything depends on the audiogram? They can see from the audiogram if you will be able to respond to the treatment?
 
Do you believe everything depends on the audiogram? They can see from the audiogram if you will be able to respond to the treatment?
Based on the Q&A video that was my understanding and that is how they configured the device. I know their exclusion criteria stated you couldn't have more than an 80 dB loss, but that again was only for the trial parameters.
 
Do you believe everything depends on the audiogram? They can see from the audiogram if you will be able to respond to the treatment?
My understanding is that the only thing the audiogram is used for is to determine if you have the hearing level to hear the audio part of the treatment. I think the only adjustments made are to ensure the volume of tones where your individual hearing loss is at are adequate volumes for you to hear. Unless your hearing loss is profound I don't think the audiograms are a decent predictors of success.
 
I love your optimism, I also have it mild and wish Lenire can cancel it completely.
Like take Ken for instance, his tinnitus dropped by 17 dB. I can hear mine in 35-40 dB rooms. I also have minor hyperacusis. If I can get a 17-20 dB reduction, it should put it below the threshold of hearing (20 dB), even at 23 dB, normal home noises will mask it.
 
Like take Ken for instance, his tinnitus dropped by 17 dB. I can hear mine in 35-40 dB rooms. I also have minor hyperacusis. If I can get a 17-20 dB reduction, it should put it below the threshold of hearing (20 dB), even at 23 dB, normal home noises will mask it.
I think it's a reference point. Not 17-20 dB above 0, but above threshold.
 
I think it's a reference point. Not 17-20 dB above 0, but above threshold.
I'm crossing my fingers Lenire is as good as Minnesota's technique, if it did THAT much for you, it should do wonders for a lot of us.

You had it way worse than I do right now. I can only hear mine in quiet rooms or when I go to bed.

IIRC you said yours was audible at 85 dB? Now you can only hear it with noise cancelling muffs on right? IMO, that's a colossal improvement.
 
Like take Ken for instance, his tinnitus dropped by 17 dB. I can hear mine in 35-40 dB rooms. I also have minor hyperacusis. If I can get a 17-20 dB reduction, it should put it below the threshold of hearing (20 dB), even at 23 dB, normal home noises will mask it.
What's a quiet room, 25-35 dB? My decibel app has it in that range. If my tinnitus stayed at hearing it in a quiet room of 35 dB, I'd have it at 18 dB with a 17 dB reduction. I wouldn't even hear my tinnitus anymore?

This is just theorizing because sometimes it gets louder than just quiet rooms.
 
What's a quiet room, 25-35 dB? My decibel app has it in that range. If my tinnitus stayed at hearing it in a quiet room of 35 dB, I'd have it at 18 dB with a 17 dB reduction. I wouldn't even hear my tinnitus anymore?

This is just theorizing because sometimes it gets louder than just quiet rooms.
I use Decibel X on my smartphone, I can hear mine beginning at 35-40 dB, depends on how severe it is.

I only have tinnitus and hyperacusis in my left ear. My right ear is silent as the night.

20 dB is the human threshold of hearing yes. If it went below 20 dB, then it should become inaudible for you. Severity is going to play a huge role in if it can get rid of your tinnitus or not, and what kind of tinnitus you have.

I may be in luck because I have some hyperacusis, and hyperacusis patients seem to respond the best to this form of treatment. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 
I use decibel X on my smartphone, I can hear mine beginning at 35-40db, depends on how severe it is.

I only have T and H in my left ear. My right ear is silent as the night.

20db is the human threshold of hearing yes. If it went below 20db, then it should become inaudible for you. Severity is going to play a huge role in if it can get rid of your T or not, and what kind of T you have.
I use Decibel Meter. Decibel X said my quiet room was 60 dB. That's wrong. 2 other apps said 25-38 dB for my quiet room.

My tinnitus is currently sharp and high pitched but not severe. Sometimes moderate I'd say. Severe is extremely debilitating. If I can get to a point where it's barely noticeable in quiet rooms I'll be happy.
 
I use Decibel Meter. Decibel X said my quiet room was 60 dB. That's wrong. 2 other apps said 25-38 dB for my quiet room.

My tinnitus is currently sharp and high pitched but not severe. Sometimes moderate I'd say. Severe is extremely debilitating. If I can get to a point where it's barely noticeable in quiet rooms I'll be happy.
It's a shame that it's almost 2020 and we still don't have a working treatment for tinnitus yet. Hopefully this first method will lay the groundwork for more methods and improvements until this awful monster is wiped from the face of the earth.
 
For Christ's sake can they release this thing already?!

No updates in months after we are told "early 2019".

First thing they need to do after release is fire their marketing / public relations team and then get some new people.

You're killing me Neuromod...
 
For Christ's sake can they release this thing already?!

No updates in months after we are told "early 2019".

First thing they need to do after release is fire their marketing / public relations team and then get some new people.

You're killing me Neuromod...
Here we go again.

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For Christ's sake can they release this thing already?!

No updates in months after we are told "early 2019".

First thing they need to do after release is fire their marketing / public relations team and then get some new people.

You're killing me Neuromod...
Careful... you'll get jumped on for being impatient.
 
Been following this for almost over a year. I think I can complain a little...
You obviously haven't been paying attention when you say there haven't been updates in months. For instance, did you skip over the photo they posted with the finished packaging? It's coming out soon. Sheesh...
 

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