Lion's Mane Mushroom

[MikeAMFM]

Update

Niacin is up to 1/8 TSP which is 275 mg/day. RDA is 25 mg so about 10x that.

Lion's Mane is up to 1/4 TSP/day.

The Niacin flush is nice actually and there's some good science behind it for so many other neurological conditions and health benefits.

I'm going to stick at 275 mg for a week just to get adapted fully.

For gut health and energy production, I added SunButyrate:

https://well.ca/products/genestra-sunbutyrate-liquid_201617.html

And I'm going to get back on Taurine:

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/taurine-and-tinnitus.4466/

No question. Gut health matters.

 

[Matchbox]

How are you guys sure the Niacin helps at all?

Yes it induces capillaries in the skin to open, but the receptors might be different in the brain/inner ear.

However, I don't know. A source or someone who knows the biochemistry would be nice.

Similar to how caffeine constricts some but dilates other blood vessels due to the receptor responses (I can't even recall how that works right now, caffeine amps some other hormone up which has this dualistic effect).

 

[Lukee]

How are you guys sure the Niacin helps at all?

Yes it induces capillaries in the skin to open, but the receptors might be different in the brain/inner ear.

However, I don't know. A source or someone who knows the biochemistry would be nice.

Similar to how caffeine constricts some but dilates other blood vessels due to the receptor responses (I can't even recall how that works right now, caffeine amps some other hormone up which has this dualistic effect).

Amongst the Stamet Stack users there is debate to whether Niacin helps at all. Remember though, it's not specifically to get the Lion's Mane and Psilocybin to the ear, but more so to the head. Stamet advocates for the use of Niacin regardless of tinnitus.

I will tell you, without a doubt, Niacin affects my middle ear. Earlier on when taking it, I could feel something happening in my middle ear and I was able to equalize by Valsalva easily, when I wasn't able to do it before the Niacin.

 

[Lukee]

Without a doubt Lion's Mane causes hyperacusis for me. It seems transient and gets better once I'm off it for a couple days but it's a very noticeable effect. It is the equivalent of a tinnitus spike.

If in fact Lion's Mane scan spike hyperacusis and the effect is transient, then it seems that there should be a mechanism to tone it down just the same.

 

[twa]

Without a doubt Lion's Mane causes hyperacusis for me. It seems transient and gets better once I'm off it for a couple days but it's a very noticeable effect. It is the equivalent of a tinnitus spike.

If in fact Lion's Mane scan spike hyperacusis and the effect is transient, then it seems that there should be a mechanism to tone it down just the same.

Interesting... I'm not sure what I did yesterday or the day before, but I was more sensitive this morning. The previous two nights I had more sleep and felt much better. Today I feel more shaky and tired. I did eat sugar and chocolate yesterday and had gluten the day before. I've been gluten free and on an anti-inflammatory diet for about 8 months except a piece a cake on the holidays.

 

[Lukee]

Interesting... I'm not sure what I did yesterday or the day before, but I was more sensitive this morning. The previous two nights I had more sleep and felt much better. Today I feel more shaky and tired. I did eat sugar and chocolate yesterday and had gluten the day before. I've been gluten free and on an anti-inflammatory diet for about 8 months except a piece a cake on the holidays.

When I have the increased sensitivity I feel uneasy, anxious and tired, so I know what you're talking about. I can't particularly relate it to diet but I wouldn't be surprised. Sleep definitely plays a part.

 

[Christiaan]

Well, my promise to update y'all took a little bit longer than expected. My multi-tonal tinnitus is generally volatile, but I think it's now safe to say that my baseline has been reduced by following the BDNF/NGF protocol + notched therapy.

If I compare the current level of my tinnitus to what it was a month ago, I would say that it has been improving. It's not a matter of weeks that you see a clear improvement, but it's more of an incremental progress in terms of a month or even more. I would rate my current level between a 4 and a 5, which is way better than 12 months ago (9/10, THI = 92).

One thing that really stands out, is that I barely notice my high pitched tinnitus outside. I would normally hear it everywhere, except in a park or when I shower. But now I really have to look for my tinnitus to notice it. Another good thing is that two of my sounds are gone for more than a month or so. The high pitched dental drill has disappeared, as well as an intermittent morse code sound. So that's at least something. Now I'm just left with a low pitched drone sound that only appears when it's quiet or when I'm stressed and a high pitched hissing sound.

It's still no walk in the park, but I think my tinnitus has reached a level that makes it manageable again. I can focus better on certain things (e.g., books), I generally feel much better & more relaxed, and I don't need shitty pills anymore, such as sleep aids.

So, all in all, it's an improvement in many respects. I'm still planning to continue on this route in hopes that more progress can be made. Yet, I'm still in doubt about going back to teaching this year. It's still a lot of hassle to work in an environment with busy and noisy kids, but if my tinnitus continues to improve, there's a chance that I might go for it.

 

[Lukee]

Well, my promise to update y'all took a little bit longer than expected. My multi-tonal tinnitus is generally volatile, but I think it's now safe to say that my baseline has been reduced by following the BDNF/NGF protocol + notched therapy.

If I compare the current level of my tinnitus to what it was a month ago, I would say that it has been improving. It's not a matter of weeks that you see a clear improvement, but it's more of an incremental progress in terms of a month or even more. I would rate my current level between a 4 and a 5, which is way better than 12 months ago (9/10, THI = 92).

One thing that really stands out, is that I barely notice my high pitched tinnitus outside. I would normally hear it everywhere, except in a park or when I shower. But now I really have to look for my tinnitus to notice it. Another good thing is that two of my sounds are gone for more than a month or so. The high pitched dental drill has disappeared, as well as an intermittent morse code sound. So that's at least something. Now I'm just left with a low pitched drone sound that only appears when it's quiet or when I'm stressed and a high pitched hissing sound.

It's still no walk in the park, but I think my tinnitus has reached a level that makes it manageable again. I can focus better on certain things (e.g., books), I generally feel much better & more relaxed, and I don't need shitty pills anymore, such as sleep aids.

So, all in all, it's an improvement in many respects. I'm still planning to continue on this route in hopes that more progress can be made. Yet, I'm still in doubt about going back to teaching this year. It's still a lot of hassle to work in an environment with busy and noisy kids, but if my tinnitus continues to improve, there's a chance that I might go for it.

This is great news. I wish you continued improvement. Do you mind to share the protocol again?

Do you have any other symptoms, pain, hyperacusis, TTTS, pressure etc? If so, have they improved?

 

[Christiaan]

I do mind! Just joking

Well, I had some trouble with my hyperacusis a month ago. I have a mild variant of hyperacusis, but after a loud accident that involved ambulances, it quickly spiked to an unbearable level. Luckily it diminished to its previous level after a week or two.

Another thing is my visual snow. I think it has slightly decreased. I see less floating sparkles in the dark, if you know what I mean. So, I'd say it has diminished a bit, but I still have the damn thing unfortunately.

And lastly, and this is perhaps the best part, I think that the combination of this protocol + notched therapy has contributed to less head pressure. I really suffered from constant head pressure right after I experienced a worsening in my tinnitus. I don't know if you've experienced that sentiment, but I had the feeling like parts of my brain were constantly electrified by something. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. When I started this trajectory, that feeling incrementally subsided and I now only feel a weird sensation (or pressure, if you will) in the back of my head at certain times when my low drone tinnitus raises its ugly head

Anyway, here's my BDNF/NGF list again. There are a few changes, which I've marked in bold.

BDNF/NGF Protocol:

Things I take daily:

- Wild blue berries (2 tbsp)
- Cacao Nibs (2 tbsp)
- Vegan multivitamins (just to be sure)
- 2x Lutein pills (20 mg each)
- 2x pills NAC (600 mg each)
- 1 x pill Mega Green Tea Extract (725 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Quercetin with vitamin C (950 mg)
- 2x pills Double Strength Theracumin
- 2x pills Vrill Omega oil (Omega 3 algae oil with Astaxanthin)
- 3x pills Magnesium L-Threonate (500 mg per pill)
- 2x pills probiotics
- 3x-4x pills Niacin/B3 (100 mg per pill)
- 0.9-1.2 grams of Psilocybe Mexicana truffels
- 4x-5x pills Lion's Mane (500 mg per pill)
-2x pills Resveratrol-VT (250 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Taurine (500 mg per pill)
-1x pill Vitamin D3 (75 micrograms per pill)
- 1x pill Nicotinamide Riboside (300 mg per pill)
-1x pill vitamin B1 (100 mg per pill)

Things that are optional to boost/stabilise BDNF:

- Organic green tea
- Organic tofu
- 4-5x per week HIIT
- Practice meditation (Optional: Transcendental Meditation)

Things to avoid:

- Generally stuff that contains a lot of sugar
- Stressful situations (try not to react in anger or be resentful, etc.)

Other Details:

- Vegan diet (+/- 80% organic)
- Tailored notched therapy (white noise)

 

[Lukee]

I do mind! Just joking

Well, I had some trouble with my hyperacusis a month ago. I have a mild variant of hyperacusis, but after a loud accident that involved ambulances, it quickly spiked to an unbearable level. Luckily it diminished to its previous level after a week or two.

Another thing is my visual snow. I think it has slightly decreased. I see less floating sparkles in the dark, if you know what I mean. So, I'd say it has diminished a bit, but I still have the damn thing unfortunately.

And lastly, and this is perhaps the best part, I think that the combination of this protocol + notched therapy has contributed to less head pressure. I really suffered from constant head pressure right after I experienced a worsening in my tinnitus. I don't know if you've experienced that sentiment, but I had the feeling like parts of my brain were constantly electrified by something. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. When I started this trajectory, that feeling incrementally subsided and I now only feel a weird sensation (or pressure, if you will) in the back of my head at certain times when my low drone tinnitus raises its ugly head

Anyway, here's my BDNF/NGF list again. There are a few changes, which I've marked in bold.

BDNF/NGF Protocol:

Things I take daily:

- Wild blue berries (2 tbsp)
- Cacao Nibs (2 tbsp)
- Vegan multivitamins (just to be sure)
- 2x Lutein pills (20 mg each)
- 2x pills NAC (600 mg each)
- 1 x pill Mega Green Tea Extract (725 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Quercetin with vitamin C (950 mg)
- 2x pills Double Strength Theracumin
- 2x pills Vrill Omega oil (Omega 3 algae oil with Astaxanthin)
- 3x pills Magnesium L-Threonate (500 mg per pill)
- 2x pills probiotics
- 3x-4x pills Niacin/B3 (100 mg per pill)
- 0.9-1.2 grams of Psilocybe Mexicana truffels
- 4x-5x pills Lion's Mane (500 mg per pill)
-2x pills Resveratrol-VT (250 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Taurine (500 mg per pill)
-1x pill Vitamin D3 (75 micrograms per pill)
- 1x pill Nicotinamide Riboside (300 mg per pill)
-1x pill vitamin B1 (100 mg per pill)

Things that are optional to boost/stabilise BDNF:

- Organic green tea
- Organic tofu
- 4-5x per week HIIT
- Practice meditation (Optional: Transcendental Meditation)

Things to avoid:

- Generally stuff that contains a lot of sugar
- Stressful situations (try not to react in anger or be resentful, etc.)

Other Details:

- Vegan diet (+/- 80% organic)
- Tailored notched therapy (white noise)

Your list is pretty comprehensive and I have tried most of the supplements on this list with varied success.

One thing I can say is the Nicotinamide Riboside had some effect on my hearing, it got better and the tinnitus got quieter but the hyperacusis got worse, I was also taking it with Resveratrol so I don't know how much I can attribute to each supplement. Taurine helps with tinnitus, it keeps it a little lower but its not a miracle. B1 has some crazy effects, in high doses (300-400 mg) it spiked my tinnitus but strangely it was less bothersome, I can't explain it but that was the effect. I also tried TTFD (another form of B1) with similar results. I take D3 daily, haven't noticed any correlation. Lion's Mane and Niacin... I'm having a hard time with these as they seems to increase my hyperacusis but possibly help with tinnitus. Without a doubt Niacin gives a physical feeling in my ear and changes the physiology of the middle (possibly inner) ear.

The rest of the supplements have had some effect one way or another so I imagine that a combination, like you have done, could offer some significant solution. I am going to be honest here, I don't believe that this will give a lasting or permanent cure, you will likely need maintenance, but at the very least its a start. I would also say that the truffles are probably the most powerful supplement you are taking and if you upped the dose, you may see a more significant change. I know psychedelics can increase BDNF in plasma but I don't know exactly how it translates in the brain.

You are on your way to success. Keep at it and good luck. Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[Christiaan]

Your list is pretty comprehensive and I have tried most of the supplements on this list with varied success.

One thing I can say is the Nicotinamide Riboside had some effect on my hearing, it got better and the tinnitus got quieter but the hyperacusis got worse, I was also taking it with Resveratrol so I don't know how much I can attribute to each supplement. Taurine helps with tinnitus, it keeps it a little lower but its not a miracle. B1 has some crazy effects, in high doses (300-400 mg) it spiked my tinnitus but strangely it was less bothersome, I can't explain it but that was the effect. I also tried TTFD (another form of B1) with similar results. I take D3 daily, haven't noticed any correlation. Lion's Mane and Niacin... I'm having a hard time with these as they seems to increase my hyperacusis but possibly help with tinnitus. Without a doubt Niacin gives a physical feeling in my ear and changes the physiology of the middle (possibly inner) ear.

The rest of the supplements have had some effect one way or another so I imagine that a combination, like you have done, could offer some significant solution. I am going to be honest here, I don't believe that this will give a lasting or permanent cure, you will likely need maintenance, but at the very least its a start. I would also say that the truffles are probably the most powerful supplement you are taking and if you upped the dose, you may see a more significant change. I know psychedelics can increase BDNF in plasma but I don't know exactly how it translates in the brain.

You are on your way to success. Keep at it and good luck. Keep us posted on your progress.

Thanks for your insights, Lukee. You know a lot about this stuff and I can say with certainty that you helped me, and I suppose a lot of others here, a lot. Mille grazie

I am also afraid that once I slowly phase out the supplements, my tinnitus would go back to a previous level. But would I be willing to risk that? So for now, my take is to keep going until a viable, effective treatment arrives and at the same time hoping that these supplements + notched therapy might alter the way my tinnitus behaves (via neurogenesis and neuroplasticity). But I have to say it's a welcome bonus that my tinnitus has been gradually becoming less prominent as time passes by. And it's definitely worth every penny I've spend on those supplements so far

Anyway, thanks for the encouraging words. I'll surely post more about my current journey if something noteworthy happens.

 

[Uklawyer]

@Christiaan, hello and congrats on the improvements - I sincerely hope they last and that you continue to see further positive change.

Just a question on your history: did you add the notch therapy after the supplement stack or were you already doing it prior to taking the supplements? Do you think it is the combination that has helped you? Or one more than the other?

Best.

 

[Christiaan]

@Christiaan, hello and congrats on the improvements - I sincerely hope they last and that you continue to see further positive change.

Just a question on your history: did you add the notch therapy after the supplement stack or were you already doing it prior to taking the supplements? Do you think it is the combination that has helped you? Or one more than the other?

Best.

Hi @Uklawyer, sorry for responding a tad late. I wasn't notified of your comment. Anyway, I started with the supplement stack at the start of December 2020, I believe. I added the notched therapy around the end of February.

From what I've experienced so far, I dare to say: both. With the supplements, I could already tell after a month that my HF tinnitus was slightly reduced (electric drill sound and high pitched hiss), but not a lot happened for my LF drone sound, which was quite loud after a worsening in 2020. It took about a month or two on notched therapy before I noticed a minor reduction in my LF tinnitus. My tinnitus reduced even further in the months that followed after a combo of BDNF/NGF protocol & notched therapy.

 

[Aaron91]

I do mind! Just joking

Well, I had some trouble with my hyperacusis a month ago. I have a mild variant of hyperacusis, but after a loud accident that involved ambulances, it quickly spiked to an unbearable level. Luckily it diminished to its previous level after a week or two.

Another thing is my visual snow. I think it has slightly decreased. I see less floating sparkles in the dark, if you know what I mean. So, I'd say it has diminished a bit, but I still have the damn thing unfortunately.

And lastly, and this is perhaps the best part, I think that the combination of this protocol + notched therapy has contributed to less head pressure. I really suffered from constant head pressure right after I experienced a worsening in my tinnitus. I don't know if you've experienced that sentiment, but I had the feeling like parts of my brain were constantly electrified by something. It was one of the worst experiences of my life. When I started this trajectory, that feeling incrementally subsided and I now only feel a weird sensation (or pressure, if you will) in the back of my head at certain times when my low drone tinnitus raises its ugly head

Anyway, here's my BDNF/NGF list again. There are a few changes, which I've marked in bold.

BDNF/NGF Protocol:

Things I take daily:

- Wild blue berries (2 tbsp)
- Cacao Nibs (2 tbsp)
- Vegan multivitamins (just to be sure)
- 2x Lutein pills (20 mg each)
- 2x pills NAC (600 mg each)
- 1 x pill Mega Green Tea Extract (725 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Quercetin with vitamin C (950 mg)
- 2x pills Double Strength Theracumin
- 2x pills Vrill Omega oil (Omega 3 algae oil with Astaxanthin)
- 3x pills Magnesium L-Threonate (500 mg per pill)
- 2x pills probiotics
- 3x-4x pills Niacin/B3 (100 mg per pill)
- 0.9-1.2 grams of Psilocybe Mexicana truffels
- 4x-5x pills Lion's Mane (500 mg per pill)
-2x pills Resveratrol-VT (250 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Taurine (500 mg per pill)
-1x pill Vitamin D3 (75 micrograms per pill)
- 1x pill Nicotinamide Riboside (300 mg per pill)
-1x pill vitamin B1 (100 mg per pill)

Things that are optional to boost/stabilise BDNF:

- Organic green tea
- Organic tofu
- 4-5x per week HIIT
- Practice meditation (Optional: Transcendental Meditation)

Things to avoid:

- Generally stuff that contains a lot of sugar
- Stressful situations (try not to react in anger or be resentful, etc.)

Other Details:

- Vegan diet (+/- 80% organic)
- Tailored notched therapy (white noise)

Huge respect to you @Christiaan for sticking to such a regimented protocol. I think one of the problems many of us have on here is patience and discipline, but you've been rewarded for sticking to all these supplements for a prolonged period. The body takes time to heal and it shows.

I have tried pretty much everything on your list, the only exception being that I haven't always had these things all together at the same time and for an extended period. I'm going to revisit my own strategy again moving forward. I think notched therapy though is out of the question for me, my pain hyperacusis is pretty bad for now.

 

[Mehmet]

Hi @Uklawyer, sorry for responding a tad late. I wasn't notified of your comment. Anyway, I started with the supplement stack at the start of December 2020, I believe. I added the notched therapy around the end of February.

From what I've experienced so far, I dare to say: both. With the supplements, I could already tell after a month that my HF tinnitus was slightly reduced (electric drill sound and high pitched hiss), but not a lot happened for my LF drone sound, which was quite loud after a worsening in 2020. It took about a month or two on notched therapy before I noticed a minor reduction in my LF tinnitus. My tinnitus reduced even further in the months that followed after a combo of BDNF/NGF protocol & notched therapy.

Christian,

Could you please suggest an app for NOTCH THERAPY? My tinnitus frequency is 8,000 Hz. It's caused by an accident.

 

[Uklawyer]

My tinnitus reduced even further in the months that followed after a combo of BDNF/NGF protocol & notched therapy

Great to hear @Christiaan - I hope it continues for you!

@Lukee, this BDNF/NGF protocol: aren't these products mostly anti-inflammatories?

 

[Lukee]

Great to hear @Christiaan - I hope it continues for you!

@Lukee, this BDNF/NGF protocol: aren't these products mostly anti-inflammatories?

Many of them, yes. I would be more surprised if it was actually about BDNF and not inflammation. Either way it seems to be working for @Christiaan so that's what's important.

I still stand by my opinion that lots of tinnitus is rooted in some form of inflammation.

 

[Christiaan]

Huge respect to you @Christiaan for sticking to such a regimented protocol. I think one of the problems many of us have on here is patience and discipline, but you've been rewarded for sticking to all these supplements for a prolonged period. The body takes time to heal and it shows.

I have tried pretty much everything on your list, the only exception being that I haven't always had these things all together at the same time and for an extended period. I'm going to revisit my own strategy again moving forward. I think notched therapy though is out of the question for me, my pain hyperacusis is pretty bad for now.

Thanks @Aaron91. So far, I haven't skipped a single day on this regime since the very start. And TBH, It's really an expensive hobby to maintain this stuff, but it's still definitely worth it

I'm sorry to hear about your hyperacusis. Pain hyperacusis is truly the devil and I find it amazing that you manage to remain resilient despite all of this. Hopefully yours will subside on its own. Do you have any plans of what your next strategy is going to be, if I may ask?

 

[Christiaan]

Could you please suggest an app for NOTCH THERAPY? My tinnitus frequency is 8,000 Hz. It's caused by an accident.

Hi @Mehmet, it's not an application I'm using, but it's actually a software program: Adobe Audition. Thanks to a YouTube video published by a fellow TT'er (shout out to @ryand ), I came across this program, which allows you create a personalised playlists of songs for which you can adjust the frequency spectrum or implement notch filters. Here's a clip from Ryand D, in which he explains how all of this works. If you have any questions about the nuts and bolts, feel free to ask me.

 

[Christiaan]

Many of them, yes. I would be more surprised if it was actually about BDNF and not inflammation. Either way it seems to be working for @Christiaan so that's what's important.

I still stand by my opinion that lots of tinnitus is rooted in some form of inflammation.

Hi @Lukee & @Uklawyer, after reading your comments, I think I should have changed some things in my list for more clarity Vitamin D3 and Nicotinamide Riboside are, for example, indeed anti-inflammatory supplements. But most of the other pills have both anti-inflammatory and boosting BDNF/NGF components (e.g. Omega 3 & Lion's mane). And you also have Taurine and Resveratrol, which seem to be BDNF boosters, anti-glutamate busters & anti-inflammatories. Basically, my hope from the get-go was that this shotgun approach (BDNF/NGF levels, glutamate excitotoxicity and chronic inflammation) would do something about the intensity of my tinnitus.

 

[Aaron91]

Thanks @Aaron91. So far, I haven't skipped a single day on this regime since the very start. And TBH, It's really an expensive hobby to maintain this stuff, but it's still definitely worth it

I'm sorry to hear about your hyperacusis. Pain hyperacusis is truly the devil and I find it amazing that you manage to remain resilient despite all of this. Hopefully yours will subside on its own. Do you have any plans of what your next strategy is going to be, if I may ask?

Thank you, @Christiaan. I'm not sure what my next move is. I'm currently on Ambroxol to try to tame some of the trigeminal neuralgia symptoms and plan to stick to it for 4-6 weeks (some studies show it has nerve repair qualities over time). After that, I may try something like a 7-day fast. After that, I may look at trying anti-virals in the event I've had some kind of activation of a latent virus I'm not aware of.

I'm hoping at some point I'll have the resources to rent a quiet place for 3-4 months in the countryside or mountains, away from all noise, technology, distractions and stress. My sole focus would be healing - sleeping well, eating well, exercising (when possible) and supplementing well, none of which I'm doing right now. I would also stick to a very regimented programme, never missing a day of any supplement. For example, I really should commit to cacao for 12 weeks - the max I've done is about 3 weeks.

 

[Christiaan]

Thank you, @Christiaan. I'm not sure what my next move is. I'm currently on Ambroxol to try to tame some of the trigeminal neuralgia symptoms and plan to stick to it for 4-6 weeks (some studies show it has nerve repair qualities over time). After that, I may try something like a 7-day fast. After that, I may look at trying anti-virals in the event I've had some kind of activation of a latent virus I'm not aware of.

I'm hoping at some point I'll have the resources to rent a quiet place for 3-4 months in the countryside or mountains, away from all noise, technology, distractions and stress. My sole focus would be healing - sleeping well, eating well, exercising (when possible) and supplementing well, none of which I'm doing right now. I would also stick to a very regimented programme, never missing a day of any supplement. For example, I really should commit to cacao for 12 weeks - the max I've done is about 3 weeks.

Hi there. It sounds like a good, comprehensive plan. Fasting has some moderate potential, from what I gather on Reddit. But it mostly concerns intermittent fasting and not something like long term dry/water fasting. Hopefully you'll end up as one of the lucky people who benefit from it. I haven't heard of Ambroxol before. I'll cross my fingers that it will make a difference for you.

I would love to be in a position like you some day, spending some time in the English countryside. Sounds idyllic. A change of scenery would indeed be very helpful to get into a better mood or change one's routine, I think. I sure do hope you'll manage to get a nice, fancy place somewhere. The Cotswolds must surely be on your top list, right

 

[Mehmet]

Hi @Mehmet, it's not an application I'm using, but it's actually a software program: Adobe Audition. Thanks to a YouTube video published by a fellow TT'er (shout out to @ryand ), I came across this program, which allows you create a personalised playlists of songs for which you can adjust the frequency spectrum or implement notch filters. Here's a clip from Ryand D, in which he explains how all of this works. If you have any questions about the nuts and bolts, feel free to ask me.

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the detailed reply. What kind of music do you recommend to notch and listen. Please advise.

Secondly, how many hours daily should we listen to the notched music? Is there a protocol?

I'm listening to notched white noise without any melody. What's your suggestion? Should I listen to notched songs or white noise? What did you mean by saying "adjusting the frequency spectrum"?

Are there any new treatment alternatives for tinnitus other than notched music treatment?


Thanks for your precious help

 

[Christiaan]

Hi Christian,

Thanks for the detailed reply. What kind of music do you recommend to notch and listen. Please advise.

Secondly, how many hours daily should we listen to the notched music? Is there a protocol?

I'm listening to notched white noise without any melody. What's your suggestion? Should I listen to notched songs or white noise? What did you mean by saying "adjusting the frequency spectrum"?

Are there any new treatment alternatives for tinnitus other than notched music treatment?


Thanks for your precious help

No problem @Mehmet.

Well, I've read some papers about what kind of music is considered the most effective for tinnitus and it seems that broadband music seems to be one of the best options (e.g. white noise), as it covers a broader frequency spectrum than most music genres. You can read the paper here:

Broadband Sound Equalized by The Hearing Loss Curves as an Improved Stimulus for Tinnitus Retraining Therapy-A Pilot, Non-Controlled Observational Study

The exposure to broadband music is by the way stereo & it's adjusted to the volume just under the level your tinnitus. 1 hour a day should be enough, but not necessarily the bare minimum. Personally, I listen to white noise for about 2 hours a day. Anyway, more specifics about how they applied the method is mentioned in the paper.

I imagine it would be boring as hell to listen to white noise all day long and I think it's not a bad thing if you decide to switch between notched broadband music and notched regular music (e.g., country, pop, rock, etc.) during the day. I do this as well and so far it hasn't done anything bad to my hearing or tinnitus.

What I mean with ''adjusting the frequency spectrum'': removing the frequencies of a song in Adobe Audition that correspond to the frequency of your tinnitus. You can see in the following picture what I mean by this:

And lastly, I don't think I'm in a position to help you with advising other treatments for your tinnitus. I'n not really in the big leagues of the hearing industry, nor do I have a medical background, as you may already know But you can ask your ENT what your options are.

 

[Mehmet]

No problem @Mehmet.

Well, I've read some papers about what kind of music is considered the most effective for tinnitus and it seems that broadband music seems to be one of the best options (e.g. white noise), as it covers a broader frequency spectrum than most music genres. You can read the paper here:

Broadband Sound Equalized by The Hearing Loss Curves as an Improved Stimulus for Tinnitus Retraining Therapy-A Pilot, Non-Controlled Observational Study

The exposure to broadband music is by the way stereo & it's adjusted to the volume just under the level your tinnitus. 1 hour a day should be enough, but not necessarily the bare minimum. Personally, I listen to white noise for about 2 hours a day. Anyway, more specifics about how they applied the method is mentioned in the paper.

I imagine it would be boring as hell to listen to white noise all day long and I think it's not a bad thing if you decide to switch between notched broadband music and notched regular music (e.g., country, pop, rock, etc.) during the day. I do this as well and so far it hasn't done anything bad to my hearing or tinnitus.

What I mean with ''adjusting the frequency spectrum'': removing the frequencies of a song in Adobe Audition that correspond to the frequency of your tinnitus. You can see in the following picture what I mean by this:

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And lastly, I don't think I'm in a position to help you with advising other treatments for your tinnitus. I'n not really in the big leagues of the hearing industry, nor do I have a medical background, as you may already know But you can ask your ENT what your options are.

Brother Christian,

Thanks once again for the detailed reply. What you are telling is parallel with my thinking. I'm at the beginning of treatment. May Allah ease yours and all ours tinnitus.

 

[mcomeaux]

Does anyone have recommendations for people who don't feel comfortable with Lion's Mane mushrooms? I'm just nervous about accidentally getting addicted to them.

 

[Lukee]

Does anyone have recommendations for people who don't feel comfortable with the Lion's Mane mushrooms? I'm just nervous about accidentally getting addicted to them.

Lion's mane mushrooms are not addictive. They are not a drug.

 

[Uklawyer]

anti-glutamate busters

@Christiaan - What are the anti-glutamate busters in the list? How are you doing?

 

[mcomeaux]

Lion's mane mushrooms are not addictive. They are not a drug.

My apologies, I must have misunderstood. I thought I read in one of the thread posts that if someone started taking the mushrooms they would have to stop after a while so as to not build up a tolerance.

 

[Christiaan]

@Christiaan - What are the anti-glutamate busters in the list? How are you doing?

Hi @Uklawyer. It's getting slightly better, as of late. Since my last post on this thread, I'd say that my tinnitus has diminished even a bit further.

How are you?

I've looked it all up and I am fairly certain that the following supplements, which I've marked in black, work as anti-glutamate busters:

- Wild blue berries (2 tbsp)
- Cacao Nibs (2 tbsp)
- Vegan multivitamins (just to be sure)
- 2x Lutein pills (20 mg each)
- 2x pills NAC (600 mg each)
- 1 x pill Mega Green Tea Extract (725 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Quercetin with vitamin C (950 mg)
- 2x pills Double Strength Theracumin
- 2x pills Vrill Omega oil (Omega 3 algae oil with Astaxanthin)
- 3x pills Magnesium L-Threonate (500 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Probiotics
- 3x-4x pills Niacin/B3 (100 mg per pill)
- 0.9-1.2 grams of Psilocybe Mexicana truffels
- 4x-5x pills Lion's Mane (500 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Resveratrol-VT (250 mg per pill)
- 2x pills Taurine (500 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Vitamin D3 (75 micrograms per pill)
- 1x pill Nicotinamide Riboside (300 mg per pill)
- 1x pill Vitamin B1 (100 mg per pill)