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When we talk about "type of tinnitus" are we talking about the type of noise or the specific area of the brain where there is overactivity of the neurons?
I have the impression that there is an infinite number of combinations of neuronal alterations in the areas of the brain in which the activity takes place and that little by little a specific treatment will be created, a bimodal stimulation based on echoencephalography, magnetic resonance etc, and it will be possible to solve but it may be very expensive, you have to find the neurologist or specialist who knows what to do and how to analyze it and surely those people are only in the big cities because I do not think it is something general, even if there are many people with tinnitus, because most people end up getting used to it.
I have the impression that there is an infinite number of combinations of neuronal alterations in the areas of the brain in which the activity takes place and that little by little a specific treatment will be created, a bimodal stimulation based on echoencephalography, magnetic resonance etc, and it will be possible to solve but it may be very expensive, you have to find the neurologist or specialist who knows what to do and how to analyze it and surely those people are only in the big cities because I do not think it is something general, even if there are many people with tinnitus, because most people end up getting used to it.
Member- Apr 15, 2017
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I'm guessing the area of the brain it's involved in. Just like with epilepsy, it's can occur at different areas of the brain. Unfortunately there's no way to directly objectively measure tinnitus so there's no way of knowing where the tinnitus is localised. It could be that the 2/3 of the patients who benefitted had it through a specific area of the brain and the 1/3, the non-responders, had it elsewhere, but there's no certain way to know - unless Neuromod know something we don't.
Anyway, it's a good point and would be worth sharing your question for the upcoming Richard Tyler podcast.
I don't really understand what you're asking but here's the Wikipedia on what a CE Mark is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking
"CE marking is a certification mark that indicates conformity with health, safety, and environmental protection standards for products sold within the European Economic Area (EEA)."
Looking at the UK Gov website, Medical Devices must be CE marked to be sold in the UK.
Cool little rabbit hole of information though.
- Apr 15, 2017
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Have you not followed it at all?
You have headphones and the tongue stimulator with a control unit.
How else are you meant to deliver bimodal stimulation?
- Mar 1, 2018
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- Born with ETD, several acoustic traumas, most recently ETD
Many other ways. The device I used had a roadmap to bring it all into one device (think hearing aid on one side).
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- Mar 1, 2018
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https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...rch-with-acoustic-and-body-stimulation.28022/
You can read about it here.
The University of Minnesota's sonic lab website talks about their form factor. An obvious benefit is that you aren't tethered to headphones, a mouth electrode, and the device.
http://soniclab.dl.umn.edu/research...tus-treatment-and-other-auditory-applications
Or
http://soniclab.umn.edu/
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He already has. Achieved great results. Hopefully Neuromod device will do the same for most people here.
It is pretty quiet around this thread. I am guessing at this point we aren't going to hear anything until May 5th when there trademark is approved. It is rather disheartening. I guess I will have to hope that I can get in on the Minnesota trial.
Yeah I think we've just realised that there isn't much else to say until they finally release. RIP.
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https://www.parasym.co/tVNS-deactivates-tinnitus-brain-regions.html
Is this device anything similar? It seems to claim to stimulate the vagus nerve to reduce tinnitus, but seems to lack the audio component and calibration of other treatments.
Is this device anything similar? It seems to claim to stimulate the vagus nerve to reduce tinnitus, but seems to lack the audio component and calibration of other treatments.
How exactly is it disheartening? The trademark is simply a formality and I don't know why there's this handwringing over it. Even if by some extreme case someone comes around and claims they have the trademark (which is doubtful), they just rename the damn thing and continue. So the trademark is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things. There are a lot of ways for Neuromod may wind up being vaporware but the trademark is the least likely.
Now is probably the worst time to write off Neuromod. Those who do will look silly if they really are weeks or only a few months away from delivering.
Meanwhile, good luck trying to ram yourself into a (presumably out-of-state) clinical trial that probably only allows for a few hundred participants at most and may not even be running right now (just as Susan Shore's trial doesn't look like it's running). I know we have a couple people here who have been in trials but that doesn't mean everyone who wants tinnitus relief can just automatically get in on them. It's like winning a lottery.
Again, let's see if things are still in this limbo state with little explanation through July-August.
tVNS didn't work for me or a friend of mine. University of Regensburg did a trial some years ago - the final result was that it doesn't affect tinnitus at all.
This is the German company behind it. I think they now only target epilepsy and migraine.
https://cerbomed.com/
This is the German company behind it. I think they now only target epilepsy and migraine.
https://cerbomed.com/
If you have read the thread I have been a strong advocate of Neuromod. I have never written them off. I am just frustrated by their lack of communication as are many others. I don't care about the name. I was just guessing that may be the next time we may hear an update from them.
As far as the Minnesota trial I have been in contact about them for the next stage of the trial and I live relatively close so don't assume you know about me.
My preference would be for Neuromod to come out and cure us all. We are all suffering here and I want this for me and you!
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- May 7, 2015
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I haven't been on this thread, but must say that I don't really quite understand the excited euphoria.
Nobody knows yet whether this thing is going to be of any significant help, or just a pipe dream, do they?
Nobody knows yet whether this thing is going to be of any significant help, or just a pipe dream, do they?
Initial test results and hope. It's powerful stuff. Rather people be hopeful than the alternative.
Well, they are advertising on Page 16 of the Spring 2019 Tinnitus Today Magazine.
That's a start.
https://issuu.com/tinnitustoday/docs/tinnitustoday-spring2019-11-web?e=33013928/68690298
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