Didn't @Clare B say that they tried to match her tinnitus volume? That's not part of the calibration? I think I remember her mentioning this in a post somewhere on this thread that she found it hard to get it right? Am I wrong? I'm reffering to tinnitus frequency.
Watch the video of the interview with Neuromod. They stated that tinnitus matching is not part of the device setup. This may have been done during the trial, but the finished product does not require it. The device is calibrated to the results of an audiogram. I would assume the only stipulation is that your hearing is good enough to hear the therapy tones.
That may be true if you discover very early on that the tinnitus is getting worse and immediately stop, however those who were helped during the course of Neuromod's full 12-month treatment regimen claim the effect has been "permanent" (at least to date). That's still an open question, how long-term the effect will be, but it sure sounds like if you do it for the full 12 weeks it won't wear off in a few days.
And why would they look for the tinnitus frequency during the trial when it doesn't matter with the finished product? Doesn't make sense to me.
Can you explain what you mean it won't work if you can't hear your tinnitus frequency?? What do you mean?? Can't we all hear our tinnitus...?I have asymmetric hearing above 15 kHz. One of my tinnitus tones is extremely high pitched, probably well above 16 kHz. I can hear 16 kHz quite easily on the left ear, and can hear up to 18 kHz or so on the left ear at normal volumes. I have to raise the volume to hear 16 kHz more clearly on the right ear, and I seem to be out at 16.5-17 kHz on the right ear, even at a fairly high volume on my phone frequency generator.
I have read that bimodal stimulation will not work for you if you can't hear your tinnitus frequency.
I'm really worried that MuteButton may not work for me, because I can barely hear my tinnitus frequency out of one ear, if at all. I really don't want to end up with 16-17 kHz+ tinnitus for the rest of my life.
Yes. Would also be interesting if they receive any media coverage or talks from the guys from Neuromod there.
Some people have a difficult time matching their tinnitus frequency, regardless this doesn't matter as the treatment is not tailored to the frequency but your audiogram so you receive all the necessary acoustic stimuli.
What I meant was that I can't physically hear a 17 kHz tone out of my right ear, but I can out of my left ear. I am worried that MuteButton won't work if you physically can't hear your tinnitus tone.
No point jumping to conclusion whether this will help or not, at this point nobody knows if it's the real deal or another false treatment.
Because it's a trial. They probably figured out that matching and using individual frequencies didn't matter. If you can eliminate the challenge of frequency matching and not affect the results then that's a good move. It's easier if less customization is necessary. Even though this device will be available soon it is still a work in progress. I expect the parameters of treatment to change further in the future as they get even more data.
If I remember correctly @Claire B was part of the first trial. They very well may have frequency matched the participants in that trial. It would be interesting to see if they frequency matched the participants of the second trial. I doubt they did.
No, I can't, because I am a severely biased person who was a direct participant. The whole reason that randomized controlled trials exist and are necessary is that we're all bad witnesses of our own subjective life experience.
I have absolutely no idea. Maybe it will, maybe it won't, maybe it will give you superpowers, maybe it will give you a whole new kind of cancer that's never been discovered before. Need moar data with large-sample longitudinal followup.
Nobody really knows who will or won't be deemed eligible for treatment once this gets into wider release. It's still in a testing phase.
Some people in this thread state that the tinnitus frequency is not a problem. Claire, as she claims, was part of the first tests and that was one of the parameters they were looking for. Now it seems that's not needed and they only adjust the MuteButton to your hearing. Doesn't sound right...
WTF? Are you talking about the Neuromod device?
It is being released soon.
Do you know approx when? What do you mean by high frequency desynchronisation?
Nobody knows, not even them. They just say "soon"
Hi Allan - have a read over the thread, I and others have done some posts on this.
Watch the Q&A video with Neuromod. They go over this in detail. They set the device up to the measurements of your audiogram. Whether or not you think that is the right way to go about it is immaterial. They are testing the device in these trials and this is the solution they are using.
You would think up to 16 kHz. Reason being is that they tailor the device to your audiogram. If you have some hearing loss over 8 kHz then the purpose of it being tailored is that all the frequency ranges in your cochlear achieve the same levels of stimulation. That's just my theory though.
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I now understand.