New University of Michigan Tinnitus Discovery — Signal Timing

#511
Stakovic said:
If realy this device will help us, £4495 is nothing
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I disagree with that notion. It is still a rip off and many people with tinnitus will not be able to afford it at that price (then they might add consultations that will cost you extra couple £ hundreds, like the first assessment etc.)

If it proves effective in treating chronic tinnitus it should be accessible for everybody. Period. Health insurance companies e.g. could contribute to it so the final price is more affordable and you don't have to take a loan.

Not everybody has a perfect social security and a Merc Benz parked in their garage, so if £4495 is nothing to you then you're a lucky guy in that respect.
 
#512
Jiri said:
I disagree with that notion. It is still a rip off and many people with tinnitus will not be able to afford it at that price (then they might add consultations that will cost you extra couple £ hundreds, like the first assessment etc.)

If it proves effective in treating chronic tinnitus it should be accessible for everybody. Period. Health insurance companies e.g. could contribute to it so the final price is more affordable and you don't have to take a loan.

Not everybody has a perfect social security and a Merc Benz parked in their garage, so if £4495 is nothing to you then you're a lucky guy in that respect.
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This device has been 20 years in the making and provides relief for a condition which previously had next to none. I think that price would be fair for the hypothetical gain. If you're truly suffering and the device really provides significant relief, I think you'd find a way to get the cash.
 
#519
crd3 said:
Saving? Selling? Asking for help? GoFundMes? Better job? Better healthcare plan?
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Saving: not possible with my income, I barely have enough to live and pay rent
Selling: I have nothing of value
Asking for help: My whole family and my friends are of the poor kind.
GoFundMes: don't know what that is.
Better job: I cant work full hours because of tinnitus and other mental issues
Healthcare plan: Not sure what you mean

Really, it's great that you are so fortunate that you can find the money, but some of us can't, so please dont be arrogant and assume that everybody can find the money, cause that is not the case.

If they truly want to help people and relieve them of their suffering, and not just those with money, then they will make this device more affordable. If they make the device expensive, I don't believe they have any deepfelt desire to help people.
 
#520
TheDanishGirl said:
Really, it's great that you are so fortunate that you can find the money, but some of us can't, so please dont be arrogant and assume that everybody can find the money, cause that is not the case.
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If it's what the device is worth, it's what it's worth. There is high demand for this device and if it works as advertised, no real substitute. I think it's important that people have access to it, but I also think that the creators should get royalties for their hard work.

GoFundMe is just an online fundraiser site.

It could also get cheaper with time, new products are always more expensive.
 
#521
Btw I found this article the other day, where a German doctor claims to be able to cure tinnitus with what sounds like Susan Shore's device/method: talking of overactive cells and stimulating them with electric wires... The article is from Denmark and from 2008.

It makes me discouraged. It was not successful back then, so why should it be now... at least that is what I am thinking, Hope I am proven wrong of course.

Link to article translated to English: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&u=https://politiken.dk/viden/art5027873/Tinnitus-ofre-kan-reddes&edit-text=&act=url
 
#522
100% agreed with what TheDanishGirl said. Think of hard-up students (with student loans already), families who got kids, mortgages, other bills to pay, people who are less fortunate and still have to provide for themselves and the list goes on

In the opening video it's said about $2.26 Billion projected costs in the U.S. for the treatment of tinnitus. This would differ from country to country and I'm no expert but it would make sense if governmental instutions decided to contribute a considerable sum of money so that the final price of the device would be more affordable.

Keep in mind it's said 1 out of 10 people in the world suffers from tinnitus. It'd only make sense. I'm all for
crd3 said:
the creators should get royalties for their hard work.
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but with so many people suffering out there it would only be fair to make it less pricey.

I know of people who lost their jobs because of T. That leads to not being able to pay your rent, no food on the table, end of relationships, depression, anxiety, pain..

I just want it to be accessible to the general public.
 
#523
Jiri said:
100% agreed with what TheDanishGirl said. Think of hard-up students (with student loans already), families who got kids, mortgages, other bills to pay, people who are less fortunate and still have to provide for themselves and the list goes on

In the opening video it's said about $2.26 Billion projected costs in the U.S. for the treatment of tinnitus. This would differ from country to country and I'm no expert but it would make sense if governmental instutions decided to contribute a considerable sum of money so that the final price of the device would be more affordable.

Keep in mind it's said 1 out of 10 people in the world suffers from tinnitus. It'd only make sense. I'm all for

but with so many people suffering out there it would only be fair to make it less pricey.

I know of people who lost their jobs because of T. That leads to not being able to pay your rent, no food on the table, end of relationships, depression, anxiety, pain.. I'm sure you get the picture.

I just want it to be accessible to the general public.
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You nailed it!
 
#524
TheDanishGirl said:
Btw I found this article the other day, where a German doctor claims to be able to cure tinnitus with what sounds like Susan Shore's device/method: talking of overactive cells and stimulating them with electric wires... The article is from Denmark and from 2008.

It makes me discouraged. It was not successful back then, so why should it be now... at least that is what I am thinking, Hope I am proven wrong of course.

Link to article translated to English: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&u=https://politiken.dk/viden/art5027873/Tinnitus-ofre-kan-reddes&edit-text=&act=url
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It seems this guy was only using magnetic stimulation without the audio component, which as I understand isn't any better than audio without physical stimulation. Also, Shore's device uses electric pulses rather than magnetism. I wouldn't be too worried yet.
 
#525
crd3 said:
It seems this guy was only using magnetic stimulation without the audio component, which as I understand isn't any better than audio without physical stimulation. Also, Shore's device uses electric pulses rather than magnetism. I wouldn't be too worried yet.
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Oh, okay, i see....I just thought it sounded very much like Susan Shore's approach.
 
#526
TheDanishGirl said:
Oh, okay, i see....I just thought it sounded very much like Susan Shore's approach.
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Sandra I thought you was from Denmark? I thought that your socialist country had a great healthcare system/free at point of use, you never know the Danes might pay for your treatment. I love Denmark. Great country.
 
#529
Jiri said:
The only thing I'm worried about (apart from the device actually being able to do its job) is the final price of the product. I hope it won't be priced anywhere near as riduculous as Acoustic CR® Neuromodulation (£4495) *rip off
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There's NO WAY I'm paying that unless I'm 100% sure it works by trying it before (paying for individual sessions of use of the machine or something like that).
 
#536
I will sell my car and work in 2 jobs if it works and allows us to hear complete silence! This device was mentioned back in 2013. And we are still not there yet. I just do not want to get disappointed.

Let's wait and see!
In my opinion in 5 years we will be very close to understanding tinnitus to the fullest.
 
#537
MickV said:
I will sell my car and work in 2 jobs if it works and allows us to hear complete silence! This device was mentioned back in 2013. And we are still not there yet. I just do not want to get disappointed.

Let's wait and see!
In my opinion in 5 years we will be very close to understanding tinnitus to the fullest.
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It's been in development for over 20 years from what I understand. These things take time. But the more time they spend getting it right, the more likely it is to provide results. I would think think that if it really didn't show substantial promise, they wouldn't have wasted all that time and money on it.
 

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