Spontaneous Recovery Stats: Many Recover (3 Studies)

[Tom Cnyc]

I don't believe it outright but because of its source it was certainly potentially compelling information

most people I've spoken to had it get a lot better within 18 months and the rest they just got used to. There may be some validity.

Sadly my tinnitus has been shitty the past 2 days. Probably due to inflammation in sinuses from allergies. Mine are terrible. It's frustrating, but I know it'll calm down again. This happens time to time.

 

[Agrajag364]

most people I've spoken to had it get a lot better within 18 months and the rest they just got used to. There may be some validity.

Sadly my tinnitus has been shitty the past 2 days. Probably due to inflammation in sinuses from allergies. Mine are terrible. It's frustrating, but I know it'll calm down again. This happens time to time.

Is your affected by emotions significantly? Mine really did seem to be getting better but then a friend died and a few other things happened and it got worse again

I agree with you about inflammation. It may be a factor here, mine gets worse when I have some kind of infection

 

[Tom Cnyc]

Is your affected by emotions significantly? Mine really did seem to be getting better but then a friend died and a few other things happened and it got worse again

I agree with you about inflammation. It may be a factor here, mine gets worse when I have some kind of infection

Emotions make it harder to deal with it if it's a bad day, but don't make it worse IMO. The only reliable way for me to make it worse is poor sleep our if my bruxism gets out of control. I tend to grind my teeth when stressed out and this gets the TMJ going.

As to inflammation? Every year I get a 2 week bout of truly awful allergies before I adapt for the year. Last week was the second week of that (it's calming down) and I definitely spiked last week. It's back to my low baseline today. I wasn't surprised given how swollen my sinuses were.

 

[dpdx]

I don't think these recovery stats are true necessarily. There are people whose tinnitus never got better (stayed same throughout), some who has gotten better, some whose has gotten worse. I think that tinnitus primarily for most people (not always though) will fade 2-4 months to a mild level, however if your tinnitus is blasting for one year or two then it won't get better.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I don't think these recovery stats are true necessarily.

The recovery stats provide the estimates of the probability of each of the states that you had listed below. So I am not sure why you would say that they are not "true."

There are people whose tinnitus never got better (stayed same throughout), some who has gotten better, some whose has gotten worse.

 

[dpdx]

The recovery stats provide the estimates of the probability of each of the states that you had listed below. So I am not sure why you would say that they are not "true."

how much time was needed for you to recover after your tauma?
some peoples ears are stronger than others. I have weak ears and just a motorcycle passing by me can cause a week long spike.

 

[JohnFromChicago]

I'm doing ok . I heard silence last Tuesday when I walked in a closet with no sound. I still hear the T when I'm laying down on my T ear . I've seen progression slowly but still something to stay hopeful about.

Hey Houston, been reading your posts all sound very similar to my story...gun range induced hearing loss one instance 20 minutes of shooting, tinnitus with 50db at 3000hz in right ear and left year im at 25db at 3000hz. I do not "feel" any issue with my left ear so I am assuming that 25db was my level before this trauma took place. Did you ever have a follow up audiogram, did it improve? I am on Day7 since my trauma really sucks tinnitus is incredibly annoying, I hope it and my hearing get better soon or at least eventually. Thanks!

 

[Bill Bauer]

I am on Day7 since my trauma really sucks tinnitus is incredibly annoying

Check out my other thread
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...eone-else-who-has-tinnitus.26850/#post-307822

 

[Bill Bauer]

"Holgers et al. (8) report that between the first consultation which took place during the first 6 months after tinnitus onset and the endpoint of the study one year later, tinnitus symptoms decreased in 75% of the study participants, whereas the rest had symptoms that did not decrease over time."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5701924/#!po=0.495050

 

[Racehorse]

If you're not better after a year or so, don't count on it going away. Reality check my friend.

 

[Bill Bauer]

If you're not better after a year or so, don't count on it going away. Reality check my friend.

Conversely, if at the one-year mark you had improved compared to how you were at the 3 or 6 month mark, there is no reason for it to not continue to fade.

 

[NeoKortex88]

The first thing I read was that to find out you have tinnitus was the worst news aside from a terminal illness like cancer.

Chronic pain like CPPS can be MUCH MUCH MUCH worse. Well I rather have mild CPPS than a severe tinnitus but other than that...

 

[Juan]

The problem with "spontaneous recovery" is that what for some means recovery for others does not mean recovery. Each person regards hearing problems in a personal way, and saying "I have recovered" or "things have gone worse" is quite subjective.

What is objective is assessing whether T is stressing a person more or less over time, whether hearing recovers or gets worse, whether sounds bother you more or not.

Also sometimes hearing conditions change, and hyperacusis can turn into hearing loss. For some this may be a great trade off and for others maybe not.

 

[Ken219]

medication induced tinnitus

If you don't mind me asking, what medication caused your tinnitus?

 

[Core2Duo]

There are studies out there that state that T is considered permanent after two years (implying that if your T onset is less than 2 years, you still have a hope that it will eventually go away).

In two weeks is my two years mark. Even though the tinnitus is lower right now.. I feel the terror .. I have been on panic attacks for 3 weeks. I dont know how to handle the two years mark. All the tools that I had developed to managed this.. right know are not working any more. The horror !

 

[RichardGuy]

Hi @Bill Bauer. I can't message you due to your profile privacy settings. But I figured there was no better place to ask.

How have you improved over the last 2 1/2 years?

 

[Lulu187]

What about tinnitus from other causes? Like short term paracetamol/codeine use and/or some some sort of pressure related reason behind the ear causing it in a person in their 20s? Is there any hope for us that suffer the non acoustic related tinnitus

 

[Bill Bauer]

How have you improved over the last 2 1/2 years?

See my private message.

 

[Bill Bauer]

What about tinnitus from other causes? Like short term paracetamol/codeine use and/or some some sort of pressure related reason behind the ear causing it in a person in their 20s? Is there any hope for us that suffer the non acoustic related tinnitus

I believe that many of the studies cited in this thread do not specify the cause of tinnitus...

 

[SouthKorean]

This article is very hopeful.
Thank you Bill.

 

[Wheella]

Hi @Bill Bauer
Would you happen to know if the spontaneous recovery stats apply to somatic tinnitus acquires through a chiropractic neck adjustment? I had one done 3 weeks ago which led to somatic to tinnitus which is affecting me quite a bit. Thank you!

 

[Tom Cnyc]

I don't think these recovery stats are true necessarily. There are people whose tinnitus never got better (stayed same throughout), some who has gotten better, some whose has gotten worse. I think that tinnitus primarily for most people (not always though) will fade 2-4 months to a mild level, however if your tinnitus is blasting for one year or two then it won't get better.

Never gets better, eh buddy??

 

[BrianW.]

These are interesting stats, thank you. My ENT was also pessimistic about my recovery from sleep medication induced tinnitus. Then he said his opinion was biased because his patents who did recover never spoke to him again. My primary care physician said it should go away on its own in a couple of months. So, I am also getting mixed messages. Three months in. I am trying to maintain some hope this situation isn't permanent, given I was only on those meds for a week and quit once the tinnitus appeared. What do they say about "hope springs eternal?"

Did it ever go away?

 

[BrianW.]

Reading this topic, I would like to add the following link:
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0194599814545325
It states in page 5; "Tinnitus may improve spontaneously. In 1 cohort study,
nearly 50% of patients with significant tinnitus (moderate severity, sleep problems, or both) improved after 5 years, with 43% of those improved reporting complete resolution and the
remaining 57% reporting only mild symptoms.26 In another study,27 82% of patients who reported tinnitus at baseline had
persistent tinnitus after 5 years, suggesting close to a 20% rate of
spontaneous improvement."

So there's hope for the newly onsets.. I registered specifically to post this, since myself, I am also struggling with my tinnitus.

Did yours ever fade?

 

[BrianW.]

Well that's depressing for my severe hearing loss. Plus, there's another reference to three months.

However, it does say that tinnitus is still present 12 months later for 60 percent of patients with severe hearing loss. So 40 percent recovered after the initial three months?! Am I reading that correctly? Hey, I'll take even that slim hope.

Did yours ever fade?

 

[Tinker Bell]

Did yours ever fade?

Yes! It did fade from its original volume. I have not been to Tinnitus Talk in a long time, but I logged in today and saw your question.

It has somehow softened from the original volume, but more importantly it's taken a backseat in my life. I'm mentally back to who I was before my hearing loss, and that's a place I never thought I'd get to again.

 

[aot]

Yes! It did fade from its original volume. I have not been to Tinnitus Talk in a long time, but I logged in today and saw your question.

It has somehow softened from the original volume, but more importantly it's taken a backseat in my life. I'm mentally back to who I was before my hearing loss, and that's a place I never thought I'd get to again.

That's amazing! I'm so happy for you. (I hope to be that way again someday.)

 

[Tinker Bell]

That's amazing! I'm so happy for you. (I hope to be that way again someday.)

Thanks, it definitely took time. The noise is still there just not at the same volume as when I first lost my hearing. I can still hear it over a shower, in a crowded room, and everywhere I go. I just don't listen to it. I think that's the key for me.

 

[aot]

Thanks, it definitely took time. The noise is still there just not at the same volume as when I first lost my hearing. I can still hear it over a shower, in a crowded room, and everywhere I go. I just don't listen to it. I think that's the key for me.

Mine's not even that loud. The hell am I complaining about?

Congrats on your success!

 

[PhoenixAcademy]

Conversely, if at the one-year mark you had improved compared to how you were at the 3 or 6 month mark, there is no reason for it to not continue to fade.

What if you push those numbers out to another year and a half? Like what if around the 2 year mark or more you start to experience a stabilizing of it?