Stop Researching a Cure for Tinnitus. Anyone Can Recover Naturally.

[glynis]

Tinnitus can be mild but also irritating and anxiety and depression take hold and each of us have our own threshold limit.
Tinnitus can be in one ear or both and head and multi tones or musical sounds.
Tinnitus at any level can cause Anxiety and Depression and also the support for each individual is different.
Doctor,family,forum,ENT,counselling , living alone,pressure coping at work and family life, getting enough sleep and appetite.
What is mild to someone can be another person's downfall and Blasting ears can send you into mental torture and turmoil.
Tinnitus Talk can support everyone and members try therapy that they think might help
Let's hope one day Tinnitus for some people can be cured but until then getting through the tough times with support is vital and trying to live your life enjoying every minute you can will help get through the down times.
We are stronger with support.
Love glynis x

 

[Oscram]

Ok guys - I'm going to draw a line under this now. Feel free to keep the shit storm going if you like. I'll read it all but I won't reply. Hopefully people who read this thread later will see what's going on here. The main thing to understand is people can and do get better from Tinnitus, and I don't think anyone on this thread disagrees with that. I believe that everyone can get better from Tinnitus - however it's fair to say that most people here disagree with that. I think they're wrong. I stand by everything I wrote in my original post, maybe it will resonate with you.


Take care

 

[Michael Leigh]

@Oscram

With all due respect, I don't think you know how debilitating tinnitus can be for some people. You claim it took you to a dark place and you had sleepless nights with a level of 10 screaming in your head that led to depression. I am pleased that these symptoms have reduced and you have made significant improvement. However, please don't think your experience with tinnitus will be the same for everyone else. Whilst it's true many people habituate to tinnitus there are some whose lives have been ruined by it.

Tinnitus comes in many forms and intensities and no two people experience the same. Perhaps, if you looked back on the difficulties that you had with tinnitus and the dark places that you say it took you to, then you would be a little more humble and not so cavalier in saying: "Anyone can recover from tinnitus". And "You can get rid of it 100%".

I am a believer in being positive and optimistic but don't want to become too triumphant in anything, as one never knows what's around the corner, especially with a condition like tinnitus. My tinnitus had reduced to a low level like yours but a second noise trauma in 2008 brought it back with a vengeance. Although it has improved and I have habituated, it is variable and can reach severe levels that require medication to reduce its severity.

If you decide to post again in this forum, please try to be a little more considerate of others and what they might be going through. The reaction on this thread hasn't been favourable towards you? People in this forum have enough difficulty coping with this awful condition, without having to content with someone that clearly shows no understanding or empathy now they are no longer in a dark place.

Michael

 

[InfiniteLoop]

@Oscram

You are extremely lucky that your T is almost gone, and I understand your positive outlook (even if it is a bit over the top). Unfortunately, luck is not contagious and most people can consider fortunate if it does not get worse. There are some long term studies that find that for a few the noise gets better, for a few gets worse, and stays about the same for a large amount of people. Yes, there is no medical cure, and we can only hope for the best and try to manage the reaction to it.
Again, you are extremely lucky....

 

[TuneOut]

@Oscram

You are extremely lucky that your T is almost gone, and I understand your positive outlook (even if it is a bit over the top). Unfortunately, luck is not contagious and most people can consider fortunate if it does not get worse. There are some long term studies that find that for a few the noise get better, for a few get worse, and stays about the same for a large amount of people. Yes, there is no medical cure, and we can only hope for the best and try to manage the reaction to it.
Again, you are extremely lucky....

He better stay away from those earbuds or his luck may run out.

 

[PaulBe]

Just when we thought the bar couldn't be set any lower..... we have a new winner.

I thought he was here to sell us something with this sunshine and lollipops crap.

 

[fishbone]

@Oscram

With all due respect, I don't think you know how debilitating tinnitus can be for some people. You claim it took you to a dark place and you had sleepless nights with a level of 10 screaming in your head that led to depression. I am pleased that these symptoms have reduced and you have made significant improvement. However, please don't think your experience with tinnitus will be the same for everyone else. Whilst it's true many people habituate to tinnitus there are some whose lives have been ruined by it.

Tinnitus comes in many forms and intensities and no two people experience the same. Perhaps, if you looked back on the difficulties that you had with tinnitus and the dark places that you say it took you to, then you would be a little more humble and not so cavalier in saying: "Anyone can recover from tinnitus". And "You can get rid of it 100%".

I am a believer in being positive and optimistic but don't want to become too triumphant in anything, as one never knows what's around the corner, especially with a condition like tinnitus. My tinnitus had reduced to a low level like yours but a second noise trauma in 2008 brought it back with a vengeance. Although it has improved and I have habituated, it is variable and can reach severe levels that require medication to reduce its severity.

If you decide to post again in this forum, please try to be a little more considerate of others and what they might be going through. The reaction on this thread hasn't been favourable towards you? People in this forum have enough difficulty coping with this awful condition, without having to content with someone that clearly shows no understanding or empathy now they are no longer in a dark place.

Michael

Empathy is the word and becoming humble. If one truly has beat tinnitus, then they need to be humble and understand just how bad many suffer from this ordeal. Keep moving forward good folks, it's hard but we are a strong bunch of warriors

 

[zombiechick]

I wish it was attention that I craved. Being curled up in a ball crying over my T during my pregnancy begging for spouse to kill me wasn't how I pictured spending my pregnancy. Or having my recent T spike almost cost me my job. I think there are better ways to get attention. It's been almost 4 and half years with this.

 

[Lex]

Not everyone can overcome tinnitus (and hyperacusis) in the same way that not everyone can overcome cancer!

I can't believe how fellow sufferers are the most unsympathetic! I don't see cancer survivors walking around saying "I recovered from cancer so let's stop looking for a cure." In fact, they're the opposite. They're among the biggest supporters of finding cures for cancer.

1) I hope mine goes away, I still do. But it doesn't happen for everyone so I have to be realistic about my expectations. I have to strike a balance so that I can move forward in the right direction.

2) Though I agree with you that many people panic at first and then recover soon after, I can't help but bristle at "tinnitus journey." You make it sound like it's a rite of passage, not a disease.

3) Who are you to say how bad someone's tinnitus is? Mine is mild. But others' are not. How dare you call their suffering exaggeration? You are insensitive and unsympathetic.

4) Understand that this is a support forum for people who want -- surprise, surprise -- support! It's hard to get support in real life so people go to forums and seek refuge. How hard is it to comprehend that?

5) Some causes are actually curable, like TMJ disorder, compressed nerves, etc. Those are worth a look! People don't have suffer when the cause can be treated.

6) Why can't you accept that some people commit suicide because of tinnitus? They might have had other issues in life as everyone does but it was the tinnitus that pushed them over the edge. They said so themselves before they self-exited! I can't believe that even in their deaths, you would dare silence their voices.

7-10) I actually agree with you on these, so don't say I'm just picking on you.

Dude, I'm glad you got better because it gives me hope that I'll get better but don't say we don't need a cure. We do. It boggles my mind that I can undergo surgeries to enhance my breasts and buttocks and take pills to whiten my skin for cosmetic purposes if I want to, but I can't get anything substantial to help my ears even when I NEED to. That's not right.

 

[Lex]

Hi Telis, thanks for the message, you seem pretty angry so I'm not going to try and change your mind. Out of interest, what are you doing hanging around Tinnitus forums if you're so sure you can't get better? Same goes for you Foncky and Jomo? Why are you here?

Jomo, Foncky, Telis, they're all here because it's a support forum where sufferers are welcome to share their experiences. I've read their posts, they provide another perspective to this illness. They're also sympathetic and supportive to people who need it.

What about you, why are you here? To act superior over all of us?

Even worse, how do you think a person new to tinnitus will feel when they read your posts? It will scare the hell out of them. Have you considered that? You can get better, and people who've had tinnitus much longer than you guys have got better. That is a fact, no matter what angle you put on it.

Telis' posts scared the hell out of me when I first read them but:

* He has no obligation to stop sharing his experiences just because other people would be scared.
* I could easily have stopped reading had I wanted to; no one was forcing me to read his posts.
* I would rather learn about real experiences of people who got better and people who got worse so I can make informed decisions about my coping mechanisms.
* I didn't want to become a person who only sees one side and thinks they know everything. I didn't want to be like you.

 

[Foncky]

and take pills to whiten my skin for cosmetic purposes if I want to

Racist

 

[Lex]

Racist

Thank goodness I don't want to hahaha. I'm happy with my natural tan. Not happy with my broken ears though.

 

[brownbear]

There are a lot of threads like this on here and they never seem to go well! I do understand what the OP is trying to get at, if not done very tactfully. I think we are all on a different timeline for recovery (whatever recovery means). I wonder whether eventually even the most affected contributors on this forum will look back on this with a slightly softer view in years to come. I genuinely hope so. I saw something on the TV recently about a man who lost his sight in his twenties and was of course devastated for years. He was filmed at the time of the onset of his blindness and during the piece he was replayed the audio of himself from 10 years earlier. He was amazed to re-hear his emotions and distress from that time and no longer had any negative thoughts regarding his condition. Of course he did not want to be blind but his negative thoughts had evaporated.

Not sure if that makes sense, I've been up most of the night on call!

 

[Foncky]

My negative thoughts have evaporated for the most part. It doesn't mean life is easy with severe T and H.

The OP says T can be 100 % cured for everyone, that's why he gets so many angry replies. It's not factual, it's not scientific, it's just a lie.

He doesn't even know what he means actually. Much confusion here : being "100 % cured" and "getting better" is not the same.

I think the OP is scared as hell because of his mild T and he wanted to reassure himself by showing-off like this. Unfortunately he got much violence in return, not admiration. I hope he won't be too devastated.

Or he's just a dick, we'll never know !

 

[Lex]

He also said to STOP RESEARCHING A CURE FOR TINNITUS. The angry replies he received are not because of the negativity of other people, but because of his own stupidity.

 

[glynis]

@Oscram ,
Habituating to Tinnitus isn't a cure and for the lucky ones their tinnitus can go as fast as it came but for some people it can be a living hell and won't go away.
There are lots of reasons why people get tinnitus and all have our own journey and story to tell and I can see why the post didn't go down well with members.
Love glynis

 

[Foncky]

When glynis disagrees, you know something is REALLY wrong

 

[Zenyatta]

@Oscram , you're obviously a person with zero sense of empathy. Hope you're satisfied with your shit-stirring though! On a support forum, no less... Disgusting.

 

[Amber]

OSCRAM scored 0 POINTS

TELIS and LEX scored 100 POINTS

 

[Ricardo AM]

I agree with most (if not all) of the reactive arguments here!
But to be honest, and after (carefully) read a 2º time the first post (from the author) i dont think it was made with bad intention....
I see it as a kind of very naive thread but.....PLEASE PEOPLE we dont need to judge him as if we were in the Middle Ages era!

Understanding and diversity of opinion is part of the forum!

 

[william adams]

I certainly believe that your attitude does have an effect on your T. Reading some of the comments above there is anger and doom and gloom in some of these post. My T has backed off because I keep my brain occupied with other material not just listening to my T. A friend of mine was a navy seal with T from gun fire an demolition exposives . His comment we were trained to ignore pain and its just a sound in your head and fuck it. Also I know a gentleman that worked in a noisy factory that had T for over 25 years and one morning he woke and his T was gone so there is always hope. my T I can hear over everything but the shower but it aint going to ruin my life and with the right attitude mine has backed off so i tend to agree with Oscram...Im not saying that Telis and some others may have a super loud T where they cant habituate. But if there is any chance of eliminating T you need to habituate to it first.

 

[Michael Leigh]

read a 2º time the first post (from the author) i dont think it was made with bad intention....
I see it as a kind of very naive thread but.....PLEASE PEOPLE we dont need to judge him as if we were in the Middle Ages era!

One is entitled to their opinions and to air them if they so wish. The moment one does so in a public forum then they open themselves up to other people's comments and to be judged. I agree, that the author probably meant well. At the very least his comments were naïve, at the worst they were insensitive, triumphant and bordering on arrogance. If anything the dark place that he mentions tinnitus sent him too, should have taught him a few things about humility and what this condition can do to a person's mental well being. Unfortunately, I saw no evidence of this or of someone that should understand how debilitating tinnitus can be for some people.

Michael

 

[glynis]

I think @Oscram understands how members feel now.
I think it was his first post so lets put this thread to bed now and move on supporting people etc
Love glynis x

 

[.bill]

Geeez I must have missed the middle part. I went 5 days with no jets or hair dryer in my ears. Then I read this. My t is still going but I have managed to ignore it. And thanks to the good laugh I'm so happy. NOT

 

[Tom Cnyc]

OK everyone. I think you all need to take a breath and relax. Yeah - he didn't word things amazingly but lets take a step back and evaluate his goal. His goal is not to act superior to you. His goal is to make the new sufferer feel as if they'll get their life back.

AND MOST OF THEM WILL.

That's a bitter pill to swallow if you're part of the minority that won't. Like it or not - when someone in the majority enters the freak out phase they'll end up here. And seeing nothing but horror stories is scary as fuck. He's right about that.

I've mentioned it multiple times on this site but most people I know that have dealt with this have had meaningful relief. Most are back to live music as performers and spectators. Most still use guns and ride motorcycles. And those people all had serious life disturbances. My own condition has improved a lot as well.

Yeah - we need research. But let's take a step back and take some of the wisdom available.

- Coming here every day looking for the next cure is counter intuitive.
- It's likely that since there are so many causes to this symptom, a cure will come from fixing other issues as a side effect. Those issues are likely to be based on hearing loss, postural / muscular issues, and overactive brain activity similar to Parkinsons.

I think we all missed the point where someone that dealt with this at a very high level (hyperacusis + louder than a hair dryer + sleepless nights and severe depression from NOISE INDUCED (what most say is unfixable) TINNITUS for YEARS feels better.

THAT'S GREAT. LET'S NOT SHIT ON GOOD NEWS WHEN IT COMES.

 

[fishbone]

OK everyone. I think you all need to take a breath and relax. Yeah - he didn't word things amazingly but lets take a step back and evaluate his goal. His goal is not to act superior to you. His goal is to make the new sufferer feel as if they'll get their life back.

AND MOST OF THEM WILL.

That's a bitter pill to swallow if you're part of the minority that won't. Like it or not - when someone in the majority enters the freak out phase they'll end up here. And seeing nothing but horror stories is scary as fuck. He's right about that.

I've mentioned it multiple times on this site but most people I know that have dealt with this have had meaningful relief. Most are back to live music as performers and spectators. Most still use guns and ride motorcycles. And those people all had serious life disturbances. My own condition has improved a lot as well.

Yeah - we need research. But let's take a step back and take some of the wisdom available.

- Coming here every day looking for the next cure is counter intuitive.
- It's likely that since there are so many causes to this symptom, a cure will come from fixing other issues as a side effect. Those issues are likely to be based on hearing loss, postural / muscular issues, and overactive brain activity similar to Parkinsons.

I think we all missed the point where someone that dealt with this at a very high level (hyperacusis + louder than a hair dryer + sleepless nights and severe depression from NOISE INDUCED (what most say is unfixable) TINNITUS for YEARS feels better.

THAT'S GREAT. LET'S NOT SHIT ON GOOD NEWS WHEN IT COMES.

I think, that you need to re-read his post. He comes here saying that tinnitus will go away on its own. He's saying that tinnitus is a temporary thing and it will disappear on its own. He also mentions for those that have had it for 10,20,30 years..that it will go away and we need to have better attitudes.

I been at this game since 1988 and it's offensive when someone says BS and thinks its ok just to say it. I have full blown tinnitus and careless about its LOUD...annoying..sounds in both ears (most of the time). For someone to come to a tinnitus forum and insult our members is not needed.

I read and support numerous people on this board daily, many are crying and hurt by tinnitus and we don't need people to come say BS and just anger these people more on this board. My tinnitus will not go away, its been here for almost 30 years and it will stay. I live my life as good as I can and still do what i mostly enjoy.

But for some, their lives have been ruined by tinnitus. Lets respect these people and their lives.....

I pray that we do find a cure for this crap, but support is the next best thing and i sure as hell will support this people, like they are my brothers and sisters...

 

[Tom Cnyc]

I think, that you need to re-read his post. He comes here saying that tinnitus will go away on its own. He's saying that tinnitus is a temporary thing and it will disappear on its own. He also mentions for those that have had it for 10,20,30 years..that it will go away and we need to have better attitudes.

I been at this game since 1988 and it's offensive when someone says BS and thinks its ok just to say it. I have full blown tinnitus and careless about its LOUD...annoying..sounds in both ears (most of the time). For someone to come to a tinnitus forum and insult our members is not needed.

I read and support numerous people on this board daily, many are crying and hurt by tinnitus and we don't need people to come say BS and just anger these people more on this board. My tinnitus will not go away, its been here for almost 30 years and it will stay. I live my life as good as I can and still do what i mostly enjoy.

But for some, their lives have been ruined by tinnitus. Lets respect these people and their lives.....

I pray that we do find a cure for this crap, but support is the next best thing and i sure as hell will support this people, like they are my brothers and sisters...

Thing is for most it does mostly go away. Thats my point.

I concede he didn't word it well

 

[Paul10]

I get your premise, and it is true eventually people do 'make peace' with their new neighbour, but it sure can be loud to the point of dominating everything. The idea of earplugs is a no-no for me. Putting my fingers in my ears and listening to the disco going on is bad enough.

 

[Mike82]

Now that you've got your tinnitus sorted @Oscram, you should probably get checked out for a Borderline Personality Disorder next.

 

[TuneOut]

Now that you've got your tinnitus sorted @Oscram, you should probably get checked out for a Borderline Personality Disorder next.

No need. You can just shake that off, too.