The Toughest Lesson in the World

[Greg Sacramento]

I know for sure that severe painful physical related tinnitus can lower quality of life. With this one needs to try to place body before mind as structural, injury, degenerative or disease problems can be hard to overcome especially when getting older. It's also can be difficult for those with severe hearing loss from loud noise exposure or bad medications to cope.

There is no other condition that has as many possible reasons as tinnitus, but possible hearing loss and dead hair cells as a stand alone or with connections from physical problems makes each of us different. Sometimes one's tinnitus will move up and down in volume and there would be a human condition as to why. Sometimes a single problem can cause any type of tinnitus. BUT - unless one has each others medical, wellness, heredity, lifestyle and environmental history under consideration among an endless amount of possible other human body interactions then we can't judge. Judging is the responsibility of healthcare and complete physical examinations needs to be made.

There's over 900 testing method examinations for tinnitus where I know about 600. From blood and urine work, to radiological exams, to hearing and ear exams, to eye movements, to one shoulder being lower than the other, to does one work or walk with head looking down, to complete oral examination. Doctors and often a medical team needs to have the knowledge and concern to spend time with each patient to know which testing examinations are needed.

 

[Bam]

Why don't you place Jazzer on your Ignore List (and Dave ought to place you on his Ignore List)?

How about we all place every single member on ignore? That ought to stop the arguing. Yet still allow the outside world to gaze at our suffering like they're wandering through some shit Chinese zoo staring aghast at the dead eyed animals drowning in misery in their isolated cages.

 

[coffee_girl]

sigh....this really needs to stop.

If youve read our previous arguments, you would know Jazzer and i go about this often, at the end of the day it means nothing...everyone laughs at one another and we move on...no biggie. It seems people try to get into it when they do not understand our history. Jazzer teased me a lot when i first got on this forum, and eventually i got sick of it and threw it back at him...that pretty much continues to this day. It means nothing, to any of us. We have made this clear to one another.

We are just horsing around, people take this stuff too seriously.

 

[Jazzer]

Disagreement is inevitable - healthy in fact.
'Taking the Mickey' is fine.
We're all grown ups - let's face it.
Without going into detail, serious accusations on a personal level are quite another matter though, and 'spite' to be avoided at all costs.

Having said all of the above - I am clearly no saint - I have a tongue that could do battle with half a dozen gladiators - so there are definitely times when I should 'hush my mouth' as you Yankee-doodles like to say.

I promise to do my best folks.
"Scouts honour."

Dave x
Jazzer

 

[Starthrower]

We are just horsing around, people take this stuff too seriously.

Is that true @Jazzer?

If you were just "horsing around" and it "means nothing" why the thread in the other forum?

 

[Jazzer]

......er.....don't take the scout's honour bit too seriously though.

The scout master instructed me to learn eight complex knots, for my 'knotting badge.'

Almost impossible task for me, but with sweat and tears, I managed it. A week later I asked if I could show him, to get my badge.
He said 'No,' next week.
I couldn't remember them, so I had to relearn them all over again.
"Can I show you this week Sir please?"
"No - I'll tell you when I'm good and ready!"

"Okay" - so I ripped off my scarf, threw my hat on the floor, and said to him
"So stick your scout troupe right up your arse!"
(as politely as I knew how.)

You could say I was a bit 'bolshy' even then!

 

[JohnAdams]

Look pricks, we are all in this together. we don't need to have factions between different levels of suffers and habituated people and people that hate tinnitus.

@fishbone concede something and make peace
@Bill Bauer concede something and make peace
@Jazzer join in and make peace
@Contrast rally the troops against these scammers

I'm probably the king of assholes and I really don't think any of you are really meeting my level assholeness. so chill and kiss on the lips while hugging.

we need to be friends and not be thin skinned.

we need to mobilize against people that want to use us.

we are not enemies.

ATTACK HERE:
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...at-knocked-out-my-tinnitus.33001/#post-401569

 

[Bill Bauer]

we need to mobilize against people that want to use us.

Who wants to use us?

 

[JohnAdams]

Who wants to use us?

lots of pricks. you know this.

 

[coffee_girl]

I have nothing against anyone, I'm cool with everyone. I have history with certain individuals yes but there is a mutual understanding in place.
If a man can insinuate that I am a community hooker (which is far from the truth, I have never considered prostitution), then I can Crack jokes back at his expense. It seems fair to me.

 

[Bill Bauer]

If a man can insinuate that I am a community hooker

What did you say to him, to cause him to write that?

 

[Bill Bauer]

lots of pricks. you know this.

I am not aware of anyone wanting to use us. Nobody needs us. How do you use a person who claims that his or her ears ring?

 

[fishbone]

I have nothing against anyone, I'm cool with everyone. I have history with certain individuals yes but there is a mutual understanding in place.
If a man can insinuate that I am a community hooker (which is far from the truth, I have never considered prostitution), then I can Crack jokes back at his expense. It seems fair to me.

 

[fishbone]

I am not aware of anyone wanting to use us. Nobody needs us. How do you use a person who claims that his or her ears ring?

It's a figure of speech, he doesn't mean it

 

[JohnAdams]

I am not aware of anyone wanting to use us. Nobody needs us. How do you use a person who claims that his or her ears ring?

uh to make money....

 

[Bill Bauer]

uh to make money....

I see what you mean. Nobody made any money off of me, so this possibility hasn't occurred to me. I knew that hypnosis, TRT, etc are not for me. Ok, supplement manufacturers must have made around $500 off of me, and 3M made under $100 off of me.

 

[Okalready]

The toughest lesson in the world.

We all had pretty good lives - am I right?
Some of us had truly wonderful lives.
I would't have traded my life with anybody.

For me, jazz ability represents the pinnacle of artistic achievement - the ability to create passionate spontaneous music, literally while thinking on one's feet.
I played it - I always listened to the playback - I loved it. I could barely wait for my next engagement - my next foray into the world of jazz.

But I digress.
We all had very enjoyable lives, often full of truly considerable achievements, undoubtedly with even better times to come.
Other sufferers could tell equally impressive accounts, or more so.

But then - with absolutely no warning - our lovely peaceful lives were thrown into utter turmoil, complete chaos, by some hateful accident that sought to destroy us.

Physical injury of some sort which managed by some vile fluke of fate to destroy nerve fibres in our cochleas.

The next step for us takes incredible courage, if we wish to survive.

Are we going to allow our lives to end here, or is there some way to, not only ensure our survival, but to make a success of the rest of our lives.
How can we possibly do that?

Unbelievably sad that we can not have our old lives back - what a hateful twist of fate - but we all know that that is the truth of it.

To make sense of any of this, it is vitally important to me that my close family 'know' what happened to me, and accept it for what it is.

It is not my fault - I am not some pathetic neurotic depressive - I am the same person that they knew before, except that I have suffered an unbelievably dreadful trauma - I am a true victim, of a hateful condition.
If I am to live and fulfil my responsibility to them, then that is the very least I expect of them.
'Understanding and respect!'

If I am to be criticised - then I'm outa here,
perhaps literally!

The reality for us all is:

"Reality is all there is.
We are where we are.
Unfortunately we cannot return
to factory settings.
However unpalatable,
our only option is acceptance,
hopefully with humane support."

For the sake of those around me, and my three adorable pussycats, I want to 'make it.'

I write things like this because in some strange way it actually helps me to build my own often flagging resolve.

*This piece is only relevant to severe sufferers.
Those with mild tinnitus will not have one pickled clue what I am talking about.

**Trolls respectfully stay away pleas.

Hi, I haven't been back here in a while, so it's good to see you are still posting. True, life will never be the same as it was before T. My thoughts are, my family and friends will never fully understand what has happened to me, that is, unless they get T....which I wouldn't wish on anyone. The few times I've attempted to describe it, I vowed to myself never to do so again, which reminds me of years ago when I was on the outside looking in. A friend of mine tried to explain what it was like for her and I was the one who didn't know quite what to say or how to react. Add to that, I really didn't think about it much either. So. That's why I don't place much concern for those around me understanding, because it may not be possible.

Life is good tho. I get enjoyment out of the simplest and most unexpected things.

 

[just1morething]

I have nothing against anyone, I'm cool with everyone. I have history with certain individuals yes but there is a mutual understanding in place.
If a man can insinuate that I am a community hooker (which is far from the truth, I have never considered prostitution), then I can Crack jokes back at his expense. It seems fair to me.

I've never heard of a prostitute that had tinnitus before. Possibly to raise funds for stem cell treatments? Or to help out the homeless with food and shelter? Sorry I had a nap and woke up with loud hissing. That would explain my goofiness I hope. The noise could be affecting my mood in a bad way. Awakening tinnitus is not good.

 

[just1morething]

lots of pricks. you know this.

For their financial gain, not caring about our tormented state of mind.

 

[coffee_girl]

I've never heard of a prostitute that had tinnitus before. Possibly to raise funds for stem cell treatments? Or to help out the homeless with food and shelter? Sorry I had a nap and woke up with loud hissing. That would explain my goofiness I hope. The noise could be affecting my mood in a bad way. Awakening tinnitus is not good.

I don't know you, but I like your style

 

[JohnAdams]

I've never heard of a prostitute that had tinnitus before.

How many prostitutes do you know?

 

[Bill Bauer]

How many prostitutes do you know?

Are you asking about how many he Has known?

 

[just1morething]

How many prostitutes do you know?

I think @coffee_girl could possibly be a chicken farmer, but I have no proof. She seems like a nice person as far as I can tell.

 

[Bam]

I think @coffee_girl could possibly be a chicken farmer, but I have no proof. She seems like a nice person as far as I can tell.

She is a chicken farmer. She's mentioned it on here a few times, cleaning the shit out of the coops etc.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

I think she's nice and really cute.

 

[just1morething]

She is a chicken farmer. She's mentioned it on here a few times, cleaning the shit out of the coops etc.

So she has to raise the cocks and then clean out their shit? Sounds like quite a lot of work, but it could be very rewarding and prosperous indeed. My static head noise sure is annoying lately.

 

[JohnAdams]

I think she's nice and really cute.

This is why we need to get eeeeeeeeeharmony started.
@85dB T.

 

[just1morething]

How many prostitutes do you know?

None. The chicken farmer joke wasn't funny I take it? Long time ago I heard someone say they raise cocks as a joke. I grew up on a farm but no livestock.

 

[JohnAdams]

None. The chicken farmer joke wasn't funny I take it? Long time ago I heard someone say they raise cocks as a joke. I grew up on a farm but no livestock.

so you admit you have no idea how many prostitutes have tinnitus?

 

[just1morething]

so you admit you have no idea how many prostitutes have tinnitus?

I have no idea on how many have tinnitus, but most of them raise cocks I suppose. I think there is a chicken ranch in Nevada someplace.