Two Year Anniversary

Double up man, I do every time at work

I do whenever I can, but earmuffs were not an option in this location. Only earplugs.
When it's above 95db or so, it's uncomfortable even with earplugs and earmuffs for any extended duration. That's 95db of some low compressor and pump sounds, which seem to penetrate more.
 
I do whenever I can, but earmuffs were not an option in this location. Only earplugs.
Oh I see, do you feel like you've lost more hearing since your onset? Or just developed new sounds.
 
When it's above 95db or so, it's uncomfortable even with earplugs and earmuffs for any extended duration.
That it is, very. So you gonna do the new job anyway?
 
That it is, very. So you gonna do the new job anyway?

I am. I hope it works out. It's a better job. It will require a lot of travel (a lot of flying) which I think I'm okay with. I just hope I don't get flown out to a location then find it's too loud for me even with double protection. My current job exposes me to loud noise as it is, and this new one is more in my field and pays a lot more.

Do you still work with chainsaws?
 
I am. I hope it works out. It's a better job. It will require a lot of travel (a lot of flying) which I think I'm okay with. I just hope I don't get flown out to a location then find it's too loud for me even with double protection.

Do you still work with chainsaws?
I've never flown in my life, I'd be scared to death to fly especially now. I hope it does work out for ya alue, it feels like you on to big things in your life, if it gets to loud whenever and wherever you're at do the best you can man. I have a battery operated chainsaw now that's not as loud and managed to stay away from the god awful chipper. But the inevitable day I have to fire up the big saw will come eventually. Then I don't know what will happen. I've just lost so much hearing so fast in less than a year my tinnitus has gotten really bad.
 
I've never flown in my life, I'd be scared to death to fly especially now. I hope it does work out for ya alue, it feels like you on to big things in your life, if it gets to loud whenever and wherever you're at do the best you can man. I have a battery operated chainsaw now that's not as loud and managed to stay away from the god awful chipper. But the inevitable day I have to fire up the big saw will come eventually. Then I don't know what will happen. I've just lost so much hearing so fast in less than a year my tinnitus has gotten really bad.

Never flown? I flew last month and a number of times in 2016. It's alright as long as you can equalize your ears. Earplugs and earmuffs seem to block out enough sound, and I try to sit towards the front where it's quieter.

Personally, I'd be more afraid of using a chainsaw than flying. I tried using a sawzall to cut some branches and even that gave me a temporary spike despite wearing earmuffs and plugs. I think it was the vibrations as much as the sound. It was only a temporary louder in the evening spike, though.

I would avoid the wood chipper too! I just looked it up and it's a constant 110 decibels. :eek:

I wish you the best too.
 
Never flown? I flew last month and a number of times in 2016. It's alright as long as you can equalize your ears. Earplugs and earmuffs seem to block out enough sound, and I try to sit towards the front where it's quieter.

Personally, I'd be more afraid of using a chainsaw than flying. I tried using a sawzall to cut some branches and even that gave me a temporary spike despite wearing earmuffs and plugs. I think it was the vibrations as much as the sound. It was only a temporary louder in the evening spike, though.

I would avoid the wood chipper too! I just looked it up and it's a constant 110 decibels. :eek:

I wish you the best too.
Yeah, I've never flown, ever. I'd rather drive I suppose. I've also never been to a concert either in my life, it's ok, I said it. Lol.
 
Has work made your tinnitus worse?
I don't know if it's my work or if I have something else going on. But this past year I've lost a lot of decibels which has made my tinnitus way louder.
 
I don't know if it's my work or if I have something else going on. But this past year I've lost a lot of decibels which has made my tinnitus way louder.

Given that you work with loud equipment it's possible. What have doctors said about your progressive hearing loss?
 
Alue, it's gotten much better! Yesterday it was a bit too intrusive for my comfort level, but the prior 5 or 6 days it barely bothered me at all. Once in a while during the day if I left my work table and got up to do something, it would increase in volume a bit. However, my tinnitus is nowhere near the level as it was in the first couple years, and especially the first six to eight months were horrid.

It has taken a long time to get to this point, though. I started the ACRN and intermittent fasting in March 2016 and April 2016, respectively. I don't think it's habituation, because nothing changed very much before then. After the first 6 to 8 months in 2014, it had remained fairly constant at a 7 to 8 out of 10, and occasionally dropping lower than that. The ACRN gave me the first signs of true improvement.

I understand a little about anhedonia. I think maybe you do have the emotions but they're blunted and not rising to a conscious level. Just from my point of view, the emotions that still come through in your posts are apprehension and frustration. So you could say, "I hear the tinnitus and I feel apprehensive." I always add why I feel what I feel. For example, "I hear my tinnitus and I feel annoyed because I want to enjoy this walk with my dog." Maybe you could say, "I hear my tinnitus and I feel frustrated because I want to concentrate on my work." I think that makes the prefrontal cortex a bit more involved in the process.

The Back to Silence method can take a long time if your limbic system has become too "attached" to your tinnitus, but I found that if I stick with it, it does make a bit of difference.

I hope this helps. :huganimation:

I am curious would you say that the ACRN is similar to just another masking sound? Also is it similar to the ACRN experiment on this site? Thank you.

http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/
 
I am curious would you say that the ACRN is similar to just another masking sound? Also is it similar to the ACRN experiment on this site? Thank you.

http://www.generalfuzz.net/acrn/

ACRN isn't masking. There's a long thread about DIY ACRN on TT. I used the General Fuzz ACRN generator and it worked fine. Very easy to use. I recorded the ACRN audio with Audacity, imported it into my iPhone and listened to it at low volume. It was probably a month or 6 weeks before I could be certain that it was helping.

This video explains the theory fairly well .
 
ACRN isn't masking. There's a long thread about DIY ACRN on TT. I used the General Fuzz ACRN generator and it worked fine. Very easy to use. I recorded the ACRN audio with Audacity, imported it into my iPhone and listened to it at low volume. It was probably a month or 6 weeks before I could be certain that it was helping.

This video explains the theory fairly well .

I understand what it is and i used this extensively for a long time when i just got my T...it helped me deal with my T but i could not conclude if it was actually lowering my T....seemed when i had the sound playing I could still hear my T throughout it when plugging my ears....residual inhibition wasnt working the way it used to so i had nothing to go on. I now just deal with my T and mask away when i can..maybe i will try again using the audacity method you described..my only question is did you make the audio file loop itself endlessly or did you just create an audio file for an hour and kept repeating it.
 
I understand what it is and i used this extensively for a long time when i just got my T...it helped me deal with my T but i could not conclude if it was actually lowering my T....seemed when i had the sound playing I could still hear my T throughout it when plugging my ears....residual inhibition wasnt working the way it used to so i had nothing to go on. I now just deal with my T and mask away when i can..maybe i will try again using the audacity method you described..my only question is did you make the audio file loop itself endlessly or did you just create an audio file for an hour and kept repeating it.

My apologies, I didn't realize you had used it before.

ACRN lowered the volume and intensity and changed the characteristics of my tinnitus. About a month after starting ACRN, I also began intermittent fasting. I think the combination contributed to more improvement. I could still hear my T above the ACRN.

I created a half-hour audio and looped it, so it played continuously. I started off at maybe 6 hours a day and then, when my T began to improve, played it all the time. All day, all night. My T is at about 6300 Hz.
 
i started of with an awareness of one noise in my right ear, which evolved into a cacophony of different noises in both ears and my head.
That's what happened to me and reading posts here I realized that it's not that common. For example @Alue developed a new tone after 2 years. I got many weird tones during this first one. How did you get your t @DebInAustralia ? I understand @Alue post and the need to vent. I don't relate to the success stories that much. Tinnitus is a really life changing thing. At this point I feel that some days I cope and some days I don't. All in all a little bit better, but far away from habituation, as I really can't see how somebody can resume doing all the things like before with no risks.
 
@Cheza does residual inhibition work for you? I don't get it at all.

ACRN isn't residual inhibition. It takes advantage of brain plasticity to "rewire" the neurons so they don't fire in synchrony.

RI doesn't really work for me. I tried Hush Tinnitus but it wasn't something I could listen to. My T is now to the point where I don't need masking except maybe every 3 months or so, and that's only because I get too annoyed by it, not because it goes up to 8 or 9 out of 10 like it did in the beginning.

Have you considered audio notch therapy? I tried it and didn't stick with it because I can't listen to music and concentrate on work, but it also has sound science behind it.

I've got to get to work, and will check back later today. :)
 
My apologies, I didn't realize you had used it before.

ACRN lowered the volume and intensity and changed the characteristics of my tinnitus. About a month after starting ACRN, I also began intermittent fasting. I think the combination contributed to more improvement. I could still hear my T above the ACRN.

I created a half-hour audio and looped it, so it played continuously. I started off at maybe 6 hours a day and then, when my T began to improve, played it all the time. All day, all night. My T is at about 6300 Hz.

No need for apologies...Was it at 6300 around the start and do you feel that is easier to deal with than at a higher tone? I am around 8000 Hz....It changed alot in the beginning but I attributed that to either my ears healing, brain adapting, and the brief period of prednisone that i took which i noticed changed my T from a tone to a hiss...once i stopped the T returned to a tone that i believe was a higher pitch but then settled at what I have now. Residual inhibition worked very well in the beginning but once I reached this point I felt the affects werent as strong which I believe was the fact that my brain had completely adjusted and wasnt going to revert anymore. I still used ACRN heavily and would play it for hours throughout the day but I eventually got used to my T and began to rely on the ACRN less. Now i just use masking noises to lower the potency...its like having vodka on the rocks...too strong alone so i like to add some pineapple juice to make it easier to go down lol
 
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That's what happened to me and reading posts here I realized that it's not that common. For example @Alue developed a new tone after 2 years. I got many weird tones during this first one. How did you get your t @DebInAustralia ? I understand @Alue post and the need to vent. I don't relate to the success stories that much. Tinnitus is a really life changing thing. At this point I feel that some days I cope and some days I don't. All in all a little bit better, but far away from habituation, as I really can't see how somebody can resume doing all the things like before with no risks.

hi there.

yes many of us develop new tones or become aware of other preexisting sounds after our initial onset.

i never thought id get used to the racket in my left ear but i did.

i had a preexisting bilateral hearing loss long before i developed t from iv cipro/ear infection 4 years ago.

i think youre already a success; learning to adapt to your t. do you have h? what caused yours?

it can be life changing, but life is about change and adaption. everyday of your life involves taking calculated risks to perform the simplest of tasks like crossing the road.

i know t and h can be debilitating. i also know that habituation can give you your life back as it has for me. admittedly, its not the same as before. but im grateful that most of my days now are no longer consumed with struggling and clawing my way through each day.

Having to face bigger health challenges right now has given me perspective. Im afraid that being able to breathe has taken a priority over focusing on the never ending myriad of sounds residing in my dumb brain.

i have mentioned a few times about my experiences with adipose derived stem cells. i think this, coupled with habituation, has seriously put my t and h in the back row.
 
I created a half-hour audio and looped it, so it played continuously. I started off at maybe 6 hours a day and then, when my T began to improve, played it all the time. All day, all night. My T is at about 6300 Hz.

I see. My main tinnitus tone (the most bothersome one) is very high pitched. I guess it would be something like a 14kHz broadband hissing or static noise. I wonder if ACRN works as well if you can't hear as well in that frequency or you can't hear above the frequency of your tinnitus. It's still worth a shot I guess.

ACRN isn't residual inhibition. It takes advantage of brain plasticity to "rewire" the neurons so they don't fire in synchrony.

RI doesn't really work for me. I tried Hush Tinnitus but it wasn't something I could listen to. My T is now to the point where I don't need masking except maybe every 3 months or so, and that's only because I get too annoyed by it, not because it goes up to 8 or 9 out of 10 like it did in the beginning.

Have you considered audio notch therapy? I tried it and didn't stick with it because I can't listen to music and concentrate on work, but it also has sound science behind it.

I've got to get to work, and will check back later today. :)

I don't know if audio notch would work for 14kHz tinnitus. :(
 
I see. My main tinnitus tone (the most bothersome one) is very high pitched. I guess it would be something like a 14kHz broadband hissing or static noise. I wonder if ACRN works as well if you can't hear as well in that frequency or you can't hear above the frequency of your tinnitus.

From what I understand about ACRN, you need to be able to hear the tones for it to have a chance to work. I think the ACRN clinics won't start the treatments if you can't hear them.

I don't know if audio notch would work for 14kHz tinnitus. :(

Maybe not as straight Tailor Made Notched Music Training, since music has very little energy in such high frequency bands (especially if you listen to lossy audio), but you could try Windowed White Noise, provided you have headphones that can reproduce high frequencies well. It seems to have "better results" than ACRN in the study that I read.
 
ACRN isn't residual inhibition. It takes advantage of brain plasticity to "rewire" the neurons so they don't fire in synchrony.

RI doesn't really work for me. I tried Hush Tinnitus but it wasn't something I could listen to. My T is now to the point where I don't need masking except maybe every 3 months or so, and that's only because I get too annoyed by it, not because it goes up to 8 or 9 out of 10 like it did in the beginning.

Have you considered audio notch therapy? I tried it and didn't stick with it because I can't listen to music and concentrate on work, but it also has sound science behind it.

I've got to get to work, and will check back later today. :)

Hey Cheze,

Sorry to hijack this thread, but pleased to read how well you are doing.

You are yet another example of what the brain can do when it is given the opportunity and time to do.

Good that you are able to work toox
 
That's what happened to me and reading posts here I realized that it's not that common. For example @Alue developed a new tone after 2 years. I got many weird tones during this first one. How did you get your t @DebInAustralia ? I understand @Alue post and the need to vent. I don't relate to the success stories that much. Tinnitus is a really life changing thing. At this point I feel that some days I cope and some days I don't. All in all a little bit better, but far away from habituation, as I really can't see how somebody can resume doing all the things like before with no risks.

To be fair, I get many tones that come and go when I lay down in a quiet room or when I'm in a sound booth. Only the ones that are loud enough to hear most places and are constant I deem worth taking note of. I get this beeping morse code in my right ear when I lay down too.
 
I don't know if audio notch would work for 14kHz tinnitus. :(

I can't find any specific references right now, but I recall reading that certain audio files are good for extremely high-pitched frequency tinnitus because they go up to 20kHz. There's one on YouTube, experimental tinnitus sound treatment. It has a weird sound to it, but it isn't unpleasant. It's good for a bit of RI, plus you can use it to audio notch. The developer writes, "Although it obviously isn't gaussian white noise, it has the same frequency magnitude spectrum one would expect out of gaussian white noise that is bandlimited between 11 and 24000 Hz and then amplified inversely in proportion to the square root of the frequency (so that it is the same power per octave across all frequencies.)"

You can also try the Neuromodulator sound generator on myNoise.net. Dr. Pigeon doesn't specify the frequency range, but one of the comments says, "I have tinnitus a different high pitched frequency in each ear. Slightly spacey space-station? A little dreamy but a little sedating as well and kills the tinnitus." The other comments are interesting, too.
 
Hey Cheze,

Sorry to hijack this thread, but pleased to read how well you are doing.

You are yet another example of what the brain can do when it is given the opportunity and time to do.

Good that you are able to work toox

Thanks! It's definitely not an overnight process. I was re-reading a transcript of the Back to Silence method, and apparently it took Terry close to 1 and a half years before he considered it a success.

I want to emphasize that even though ACRN supposedly only works with tonal, my T when I started it was a blend of several different annoying sounds, and it helped me.
 
If I recall correctly Terry struggled with T for 40 years before habituating. That's a long time!

I'm feeling low again today. Sometimes I feel like I've forgiven and moved on (not to be confused with habituated), but other times I feel like I'd like some closure with with what happened.
 
Today is my "day that will live in infamy": a one-year anniversary of me getting my acoustic trauma. Soon I will be celebrating a one-year anniversary of my tinnitus turning on...

T ate my 2017. I have very few memories from the past year. As a result, January 22, 2017 feels like it was about three weeks ago...
 

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