University of Minnesota Tinnitus Research with Acoustic and Body Stimulation

[kelpiemsp]

@kelpiemsp did it go away on its own, or did it go away from the device???

The hyperacusis? It was going away for a while...but signal timing definitely helped.

 

[kelpiemsp]

@kelpiemsp Thanks again for updating all of us. I was curious if you have heard anything about the next phase of the trial?

Still waiting to hear. With the PI being hired by Neuromod (MuteButton), I am not sure how that will play out. They will send us the results when they are typed up. I am not sure if this is after peer review or not.

 

[Johan_L]

The hyperacusis? It was going away for a while...but signal timing definitely helped.

Did you ever experience the sound from the device as annoying? Did you discuss the dB level of this sound? (Someone with hyperacusis might not tolerate 70 dB, but can tolerate 50 dB. Would it still work?)

 

[ruud1boy]

Still waiting to hear. With the PI being hired by Neuromod (MuteButton), I am not sure how that will play out. They will send us the results when they are typed up. I am not sure if this is after peer review or not.

PI? As in Magnum PI? Why would Neuromod need a private investigator? Or am I missing something here?

 

[annV]

PI? As in Magnum PI? Why would Neuromod need a private investigator? Or am I missing something here?

Principal investigator.

 

[jay777]

So in retrospect, I had mild hyperacusis still at the beginning of the trial.

Have you informed them of this?

 

[linearb]

@kelpiemsp right on, I too will go back off benzos as soon as this tech is something I can buy For the moment, it keeps the noise at bay...

 

[kelpiemsp]

Have you informed them of this?

They asked a very thorough health and tinnitus history.

 

[jay777]

They asked a very thorough health and tinnitus history.

But you said if you had hyperacusis you could not participate in the study?

 

[kelpiemsp]

But you said if you had hyperacusis you could not participate in the study?

It's a spectrum. I was able to "tolerate" the noise barely when I started.

 

[Adriel93]

@kelpiemsp ehy central I find an article about this device at all?

 

[kelpiemsp]

@kelpiemsp ehy central I find an article about this device at all?

http://soniclab.umn.edu/research/neural-beamforming-tinnitus

 

[Adriel93]

@kelpiemsp thanks for replying I appreciate that. How long is your silence supposed to last?

 

[duder12]

Yes I was in the same trial. If @kelpiemsp thinks I signed an NDA in the beginning than I probably did. I remember paperwork just didnt remember it being about not talking. Either way its over.

We haven't gotten any results yet. In fact Ive had no communication since before the holidays. They werent able to tell me how it would wrap up because they didnt know yet. They hadnt heard from the PI and there was other sessions left after mine still.

 

[duder12]

Sorry if I missed your answer but, did it help you??

Not in my opinion but still interested in seeing results from them.

 

[PDodge]

@kelpiemsp I know you're getting harassed by us haha and I'm not sure if you can answer but you hat multi-tonal T correct? One really high pitch? Did they address all these tones at the same time? If you can't answer that's cool.
Thanks in advance

 

[JohnAdams]

Yes I was in the same trial. If @kelpiemsp thinks I signed an NDA in the beginning than I probably did. I remember paperwork just didnt remember it being about not talking. Either way its over.

We haven't gotten any results yet. In fact Ive had no communication since before the holidays. They werent able to tell me how it would wrap up because they didnt know yet. They hadnt heard from the PI and there was other sessions left after mine still.

Always read before you sign anything homie. Even the iTunes terms of service.

 

[jmasterj]

I just thought I'd update you guys on some information I received about this trial and phase 3. Since Mr. Lim is on leave with Neuromod they have assigned a new PI and are currently working through all the data assembled from phase 2. At this time there isn't a concrete timeframe for phase 3 to begin. If I hear anything more I will certainly update the forum. @kelpiemsp may hear something before I do.

 

[Manny]

I just thought I'd update you guys on some information I received about this trial and phase 3. Since Mr. Lim is on leave with Neuromod they have assigned a new PI and are currently working through all the data assembled from phase 2. At this time there isn't a concrete timeframe for phase 3 to begin. If I hear anything more I will certainly update the forum. @kelpiemsp may hear something before I do.

jmasterj, where did you get this information from?

 

[Allan1967]

I just thought I'd update you guys on some information I received about this trial and phase 3. Since Mr. Lim is on leave with Neuromod they have assigned a new PI and are currently working through all the data assembled from phase 2. At this time there isn't a concrete timeframe for phase 3 to begin. If I hear anything more I will certainly update the forum. @kelpiemsp may hear something before I do.

Does this mean the device will not be released in 2019?

 

[Paulmanlike]

Does this mean the device will not be released in 2019?

The Neuromod will be released in 2019, in Ireland and Europe anyway. Unfortunately the Americans will have to wait for FDA approval. Not sure about this device (Minnesota) though.

 

[hans799]

Does this mean the device will not be released in 2019?

You've conflated two different things. Neuromod (the device that's scheduled for 2019) is an Irish project. This thread is for the Minnesota device, which has no schedule for release yet. They work on a similar principle and there's overlap between the teams but they're distinct. So no worries.

 

[jmasterj]

jmasterj, where did you get this information from?

I was able to get in contact with some of the staff at the University who was able to get me in touch with the new PI. They added me to their contact list when they are ready for phase 3, so I will be sure to let everyone know when I hear something. I think right now it is best to let them work on their data and research to be fully prepared for the next phase, so I didn't ask too many questions.

 

[jmasterj]

You've conflated two different things. Neuromod (the device that's scheduled for 2019) is an Irish project. This thread is for the Minnesota device, which has no schedule for release yet. They work on a similar principle and there's overlap between the teams but they're distinct. So no worries.

Allan,
As @hans799 there really isn't a release date on the Minnesota device. They seem to be farther ahead than Susan Shore is at the University of Michigan. Professor Lim who was the PI at the University of Minnesota has moved on to Neuromod as the Chief Scientific Officer. You will see the Neuromod device before the Minnesota device, but the positive is the we have seen good things from Minnesota and Professor Lim has certainly carried some of that knowledge over to Neuromod.

 

[Fabrikat]

You will see the Neuromod device before the Minnesota device, but the positive is the we have seen good things from Minnesota

I'd love to know what the difference is between these two machines, other than the location of the electrodes. Configured to a persons audiogram, signal timing will be the same for both for it to work. Regardless, it's a pity Susan Shore has taken so long to get to this point.

 

[GlennS]

I don't think all these initiatives are all doing exactly the same thing except for the site of stimulation. The nature of the stimulation (aka signal timing) is going to vary. There is no one set of parameters that works. There is going to be a range of parameters that work. It's just that some are proving to be better than others. Finding the best set of parameters is what all this R&D must be focusing on.

 

[AliceW]

Hy @kelpiemsp

Hope you're doing well and your baby to come too

Are you still enjoying silence right now ? No variations in your T?

The sound of water you now described to hear is more blood related to blood pressure?!

Thanks a lot for your answer

 

[jay777]

@kelpiemsp
Could you describe the sounds you heard from the device?

 

[Adriel93]

@kelpiemsp can you please give us an update?

 

[JRC1]

@kelpiemsp, if you can share - how many hours per day/days per week did you receive the treatment?