Indeed the fact of the matter is that Tinnitus Talk is a major stakeholder in this write-up. It is the primary representation of the online tinnitus community. Tinnitus Talk's voters are also the main reason why Susan Shore's research won. It does have a reasonable right to request to see advance copy of the write-up and to offer feedback on it.I have confidence that STAT will cover this properly -
@Markku is there any plan to send them an official Tinnitus Talk statement?
I just think that whatever we do we should remember that it isn't our news site, so even though we voted we don't get to make demands of them editorially and shouldn't be emailing them in an entitled way, as this will just alienate us.
I think it is the write up. It's also on the top of their page as you log on into STAT (shivers saying that name ).Michigan tops STAT Madiness voting with a potential treatment for tinnitus
Is this the actual article already?
It seems quite long for just announcing the winner. And it looks similarly written/styled as last year's STAT Madness winner's article (which @OnceUponaTime linked above). So my suspicion is that this might be it.
We were unfortunately not asked for any comment on this - it was indeed our plan to try and get the community's significant efforts recognized in the published article, but apparently the journalist (STAT's Elizabeth Cooney, Twitter @cooney_liz) decided not to include that angle. Which is of course the journalist's right if they feel it doesn't fit te narrative.
Yes it looks like the article. At least it doesn't seem to repeat the "nearly everyone gets used to it" cliches and does reference the 15% of the population have it and for "2 million" (in USA) disabling. A pity Tinnitus Talk wasn't consulted but thanks for the hard work making it happen.Michigan tops STAT Madness voting with a potential treatment for tinnitus
Is this the actual article already?
It seems quite long for just announcing the winner. And it looks similarly written/styled as last year's STAT Madness winner's article (which @OnceUponaTime linked above). So my suspicion is that this might be it.
We were unfortunately not asked for any comment on this - it was indeed our plan to try and get the community's significant efforts recognized in the published article, but apparently the journalist (STAT's Elizabeth Cooney, Twitter @cooney_liz) decided not to include that angle. Which of course is the journalist's right if they feel it doesn't fit the narrative.
I agree with you, Jcb. If that was the article then it's a bit disappointing as they haven't covered anything that's not already out there in many other news articles. The world essentially received this update in January 2018.I think it is the write up, It's also on the top of their page as you log on into STAT (shivers saying that name ) I'm not sure what to make of the actual article, it was quite short and didn't really say much or am I just being too negative on the piece? It did mention that tinnitus can be debilitating for some which is good that it wasn't just "oh most people get used to it".
I suppose exposure is exposure eh
They did mention Baylor's recount and getting disqualified though
I hope it is just a pre-story Ed and the actual article is up today, it seemed a bit "muh" again I'm not being negative but as you said even one of us could wrote that up including myself and I write like like a toddler.I agree with you, Jcb. If that was the article then it's a bit disappointing as they haven't covered anything that's not already out there in many other news articles. The world essentially received this update in January 2018.
I thought they'd be a lot more probing than that, and any one of us could have written that, to be honest.
Hopefully, this is just a story before the article is officially presented.
The journalist, Elizabeth Cooney, confirmed the article was indeed the result of the competition, and it concludes the STAT Madness coverage...
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A bit disappointed to see that she didn't seem open to include Tinnitus Talk/Tinnitus Hub. She clearly saw your video. But let's not get discouraged, we can still create the kind of media coverage regarding tinnitus that we'd like to see. Whether that's by posting on Twitter, Facebook, writing articles or blog posts, making videos or reaching out to journalists, etc.The journalist, Elizabeth Cooney, confirmed the article was indeed the result of the competition, and it concludes the STAT Madness coverage...
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Lol... Oh no!I think it is the write up. It's also on the top of their page as you log on into STAT (shivers saying that name ).
I understand. I am just grateful that because of our efforts here on Tinnitus Talk, this article is on top of the STAT News website right now. And yes, at least it didn't have any of those phrases like "people get used to it after a couple of days." (exaggerating now) Grrrr.I'm not sure what to make of the actual article, it was quite short and didn't really say much or am I just being too negative on the piece? It did mention that tinnitus can be debilitating for some which is good that it wasn't just "oh most people get used to it"
Absolutely! And we know what we did here and so does Susan Shore! And I hope, Neuromod takes notice of what we've done here. Maybe this will get them moving on the MuteButton a little faster or Markku's Angels are going to win it! hahaha. We have to keep positive.I suppose exposure is exposure eh
Interesting you posted this idea just now, as I'm currently on a Skype call with @Hazel and five minutes before your post I suggested what if we did a write-up on Shore's work, this competition, and how the community got involved so successfully.@Markku, @Ed209, any writers in the house?? Maybe someone here can actually write an article on University of Michigan winning this competition, their research, and what we as a community did here to help them win?
I am extremely proud of all of you here. Thank you for stepping out and making a difference.
This!That's crazy. Well, all I can say is that I'm very disappointed in the final article. There was too much included about the competition itself (self-promotion) and the side-story of Baylor being disqualified was irrelevant and served no purpose.
Where was the cutting-edge, exhaustive journalism? It was extremely trivial and could have been written during one's lunch hour with minimal research. I expected probing questions and deep meaningful insights that would challenge the worldview on tinnitus. Was Susan Shore even contacted? They certainly didn't utilise her input effectively if she was because the largest direct quote was taken from a paper in Science Translational Medicine.
And why include Utah's work in the same article? Their project probably got more of a mention than Shore's work did.
Great minds think alike!Interesting you posted this idea just now, as I'm currently on a Skype call with @Hazel and five minutes before your post I suggested what if we did a write-up on Shore's work, this competition, and how the community got involved so successfully.
@Hazel already did this. Post #978.I think it would be interesting if a manager of Tinnitus Talk congratulated Susan Shore on behalf of all of us, and let her know that we supported them but that they won due to their amazing innovation and we are by their side to support them in whatever capacity they need.
We've already done this, and she's also aware of the video Hazel did:I think it would be interesting if a manager of Tinnitus Talk congratulated Susan Shore on behalf of all of us, and let her know that we supported them but that they won due to their amazing innovation and we are by their side to support them in whatever capacity they need.
That's one way of doing it! Another option is to coordinate efforts by forming a group of interested and capable writers, and that group then takes on the project (which is not only writing but also researching, getting quotes/answers, etc, well, whatever usually goes into an exhaustive journalistic piece).Let's do it! Anybody that wishes to write an article can submit it to you and then you can pick one or combine them to make one really great explosive article??!!
I do not want to bring the whip out. (I'm exhausted).That's one way of doing it! Another option is to coordinate efforts by forming a group of interested and capable writers, and that group then takes on the project (which is not only writing but also researching, getting quotes/answers, etc, well, whatever usually goes into an exhaustive journalistic piece).
This sounds like a great idea Now where's all the amazing writers?Great minds think alike!
Let's do it! Anybody that wishes to write an article can submit it to you and then you can pick one or combine them to make one really great explosive article??!!
Strike while the iron is hot!
Except that sweet sweet write up...I never want to see the STAT website again after this lol.
Are you joking?So have they successfully reduced people's tinnitus in their experiments yet?
I can't tell if you're joking or not?So have they successfully reduced people's tinnitus in their experiments yet?
I'm not. To be honest I havent really been following her research. So I guess the answer is yes. Shame on me, I'll do some reading.I can't tell if you're joking or not?
I think it would be interesting if a manager of Tinnitus Talk congratulated Susan Shore on behalf of all of us, and let her know that we supported them but that they won due to their amazing innovation and we are by their side to support them in whatever capacity they need.
As long as the STAT competition is heavily mentioned, we could even send it to STAT and they may put it up on their website as well, or at least retweet it.
@Markku & @OnceUponaTime, my point was if Susan Shore knew about the video. If she does, that is great news.
Another larger clinical trial will yield results next year, Shore said. She holds a patent on the device. "It's always hard to predict how long commercialization can take, but I would say if we get as encouraging results in the next trial that we will work very hard to get this to people." - from the articleI'm not. To be honest I havent really been following her research. So I guess the answer is yes. Shame on me, I'll do some reading.
Now my question is how far from an available treatment is this?